Nadal's withdraw may be the best thing for tennis as a whole

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  1. S H O W S T O P P E R !

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    I know Nadal fans will be flaming me for this, but hear me out. With Federer winning the French, we now have a guy who can win back #1 and become the GS leader. Sounds like a great year. But tennis as a whole could benefit in popularity because Rafa isn't playing Wimbledon.

    Now, the 2 contenders would be Murray and Federer. Now imagine this for a moment: Murray becomes the first Brit to win Wimbledon in what, 60-70 years? Correct me if I'm wrong, but Federer would become #1 with a berth into the final, so the man loses his #1 ranking and then gets it back and finally, a healthy Rafa wins the US Open. The year's highlights:

    2 players win the career slam in the same year
    A British man wins Wimbledon after over 50 years of futility
    Federer regains #1 (if I'm not mistaken)

    It may not be history with Federer taking over the GS lead, but it would be an incredibly historic year for tennis and it's popularity would soar.

    Granted, this is all hypothetical. Nadal may not win the US Open. He may be hurt during the US Open series events. Murray may choke yet again. Fed may get hurt.

    But that really is IMO the best way this year could fan out. The storylines going into next year would be incredibly compelling.
     
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  2. BreakPoint

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    ^^^

    Won't work because Federer has to WIN Wimbledon in order for him to regain the #1 ranking after Wimbledon even if Nadal doesn't play. Getting to the final is not enough for Federer and Nadal will still retain the #1 ranking.
     
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  3. NotAtTheNet

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    No, the best thing for tennis is having the best players out there playing each other. At least theres still the USO... in the meantime, go A-Rod!
     
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  4. S H O W S T O P P E R !

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    Alright, but still, A Brit winning Wimbledon and 2 players winning the career slam is still a historic year.
     
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  5. Sephiroth619

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    Great scenario though I would prefer Fed winning Wimby and US Open.
     
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  6. maximo

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    Spot on.

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  7. MichaelChang

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    For Nadal to recover better, he has to cut his play schedule, especially hard court plays. Clay is best for knee and hard court the worst. I do not think Nadal can win US open this year, no, it won't work, at least not this year.
     
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  8. FedererForehand

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  9. All-rounder

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    This sucks i really wanted that epic final now were left with Murray ;) just kidding i hope rafa the best and that he gets to a speedy recovery
     
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    Why not now he can rest up and have more time to prepare for the hardcourt season pulling out is tough but its the right thing to do nadal has won wimbledon and has gained the #1 rank so its a 'been there done that' situation nadal should focus on US open
     
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    Nadal seriously needs to change his game. He should attack more and defend less, so he will have to stop pushing so much.
     
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  13. malakas

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    No it isn't!Whatever happens an injury and withdrawal of a player,especially a defendin champ is a sad thing for tennis.
     
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  14. dh003i

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    I agree. Although at this point, the withdrawal is obviously the lesser of two evils. Because if he plays, it is almost impossible that he can win; he probably wouldn't even make it out of the first round (having lost exhibitions to Wawrinka and Hewitt). So it's just strain on his knee for no benefit.
     
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  15. tahiti

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    Perhaps Showstopper your name is intened to draw attention and sensationalise things. How could anyone's injury "be the best thing for tennis" what a ridiculous and callous thought.
     
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  16. S H O W S T O P P E R !

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    But it would be sad to see the defending champ lose early because his knee was killing him.
     
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  17. T1000

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    no he doesn't. in the thread about murray winning wimbledon, malakas posted a summary on number one senarios, the first post on page 2. if fed makes the semifinals, he will be number one in august or something like that.
     
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  18. Danstevens

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    I agree, I'd rather Nadal take some time out and give up his Wimbledon title with dignity than lose/withdraw early on playing badly and in pain. Hopefully he can make a good recovery and maybe finish off the season with some titles.
     
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  19. BreakPoint

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    I said right after Wimbledon, meaning on Monday, July 6th.

    Everyone knows that Federer will regain the #1 ranking at some point later this summer now that Nadal is out for at least a month.
     
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  20. Cesc Fabregas

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    After having is French Open title and Wimbledon title unfairly stolen from him its going to make Nadal even more determined to take Federer's USO title imo Nadal is winning the USO.
     
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  21. BreakPoint

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    With his bad knees and terrible record at the US Open? No way!
     
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  22. T1000

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    Soderling beat him fair and square, and its Nadal's fault he's not playing, not Federer's
     
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  23. maximo

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    Hold on here, Murray is winning the US Open.
     
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    My bad, didn't see that
     
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  25. Cesc Fabregas

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    His knees will be fine by then. He will then beat Federer in the final and then will have beaten Federer at every single slam and Federer has only beaten Nadal at Wimbledon.
     
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  26. T1000

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    why do you bring murray into every conversation? I don't bring hewitt into everything
     
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    You bring Federer in every conversation dodo...
     
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    no i don't but nice try :roll:
     
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  29. フェデラー

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    You are far off by A LONGGG SHOT. If Fed won wimbledon and Nadal didnt make it to the SEMIFINALS he would lose the no. 1 ranking. So its even easier for Federer now.
     
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  30. maximo

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    Your in denial but nice try.
     
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  31. woody88

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    thread has been rated accordingly.
     
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  32. フェデラー

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    Hold on here, Murray will get shat upon by Federer again.
     
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    hey!!!don't blame maximo,she's Murray's mom!!!
     
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    Ridiculous thread.
     
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    Why waste your time posting in such a ridiculous thread?
     
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  36. yellowoctopus

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    In my opinion, competition also includes being able to sustain certain level of play and successes over a period of time.

    Also, I don't care how much of a GOAT a person may be, it is impossible to beat everyone all the time. Every greatest of greats are vulnerable to certain players with specific type of game. I believe a person greatness can be measured by his accomplishments among other things, but the whole 'greatest' discussion is really more of vanity, subject to individual's opinion.
     
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  37. clayman2000

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    Is a QF, 4R and a SF really that bad.

    Also remember he does have 2 Canada Masters titles, and Olympic title on a fast surface and a Madrid title on a fast surface.

    No reason to say that 2 months off wont bring him back to 100%
     
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  38. BreakPoint

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    You mean like the way Nadal beat Murray, Ferrer, Youznhy, Blake, and Roddick at the US Open? :oops:
     
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  39. Cesc Fabregas

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    Nadal never got past the semis in Australia before this year and looked what happened.

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    Huh? That's what I said!

    Federer has to actually WIN Wimbledon. The OP stated that Federer can regain the #1 ranking by just getting to the finals but losing to Murray. He can't. It doesn't matter if Nadal plays Wimbledon or not. If Federer does NOT WIN Wimbledon, Nadal will remain #1. Not Federer nor Murray, even if Murray wins Wimbledon. Thus, the only way Nadal can lose the #1 ranking is if Federer WINS Wimbledon. It makes no difference if Nadal loses before the semis or if he doesn't play at all. Federer has to win, not just make the final.
     
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  41. BreakPoint

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    Yeah, Djokovic won the Australian Open, too, beating Federer en route. But look at what Federer did to him at the US Open the past couple of years?

    The Australian Open is NOT the US Open. Completely different tournament, conditions, and surface. Agassi also beat Sampras at the AO plenty of times, but in all the many times they've played at the US Open, Agassi was NEVER able to beat Sampras at the US Open. Case closed.
     
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  42. Cesc Fabregas

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    Nadal isn't Djokovic and Nadal and Federer aren't Sampras and Agassi case not closed.
     
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  43. BreakPoint

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    You're right. Federer is the GOAT. And Sampras is not. And Agassi has a career Slam. And Nadal does not. :oops:

    You only need to look at the Masters Cups to see what Federer does to Nadal on a fast hard court.
     
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  44. Cesc Fabregas

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    Sampras would take Federer to the cleaners at the USO and Wimbledon.
     
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  45. Enigma_87

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    As he took him in the 01' Wimbey as a defending champion and Federer 2 good years away from his first slam?
     
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    haha don't make me laugh :)
     
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  47. Dutch-Guy

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    "GOAT" according to whom?
    It seems as if your purpose on this board is bashing Rafa.Has #1 player ever lost 1-6,3-6,0-6 in a grand slam final?
     
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  48. RalphNYC

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    Best thing would be Roger beating Rafa in an epic 5 setter to make the rivalry more intense.
     
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  49. BreakPoint

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    You mean like the way Hewitt destroyed Sampras 7-6, 6-1, 6-1 at the US Open while Federer destroyed Hewitt 6-0, 7-6, 6-0 at the US Open? :oops:
     
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    I doubt that but the truth is we'll never know,we can just speculate.Don't forget that Fed won 5 USO in a row while Sampras in his prime had loses to Yzaga and Korda there.
     
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