Name Your Top 5 Dangerous "Floaters" in Men's Wimby

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  1. stringertom

    stringertom G.O.A.T.

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    There is always an upset or two in the first week of The Fortnight. This year will be no exception, I'm sure. Currently, there is a tie for 32nd in ATP rankings and seven others within 100 points of the final seed. On the outside, looking in are some notable "big gamers". Name your top 5 dangerous "floaters", guys even the top seeds don't want to see in their section.
     
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  2. Walenty

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    I'm assuming you mean players outside the top 32 only.

    Basically any big server could get hot one day and win tiebreaks and matches, like you've said. I'll go with:

    1. John Isner
    Coming off a five setter with Nadal, and returning to Wimby with the hype he created last year, I don't see any reason why he couldn't do well this year.

    2. Sam Querrey
    Sam can be a good player on Grass, winning Queens last year. He just needs a big win over a top player, which he couldn't do against Murray last year at Wimby.

    3. Feliciano Lopez
    I don't think anybody doubts that Feliciano can be very dangerous on grass, nobody wants to get him in an early round.

    4. Dr. Ivo
    Has a history of knocking off players in early rounds. I don't even know if he's playing Wimby though?

    5. Kevin Anderson
    Another big server. Dangerous.

    Honestly though, none of these five are likely to make it past the round of 16, if even. If you're looking for a "real" dark horse, you'll have to start going into the 20's and further.
     
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  3. Nadalfan89

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    Tsonga
    Gasquet
    Nalbandian
    Wawrinka
    Isner
     
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  4. Isner
    Karlovic
    Tsonga
    Soderling (imo a floater since he is lightyears away from the top 4 level-wise)
    Wawrinka
    Raonic
     
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  5. PSNELKE

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    1. Mugic - as always. He has a chance to make a QF run but that´s it.

    2. Querrey - well he´s decent on grass but cant serve to save his life.

    3. Tsonga - is finding some form recently.

    4. Felicia - grass is his best surface, he was bombing tons of aces against Roddick.

    5. Wawa just because I dont see any other.

    Guys who will fail early imo. Berdych, Troiclown, Mugro and Dasco, Juanito.
     
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  6. Prodigy

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    Isner
    Karlovic (Just going to lump these three guys together. They've all got monstrous serves and anything can happen on grass when you've got a weapon like that. Get into a couple tie-breaks and who knows what could happen.)
    Anderson

    Lopez (Has a good grass game and the surface really helps his him. Has proven himself capable of going far in the Wimbledon draw.)

    Hewitt (I'm surprised nobody has put Hewitt down so far. He's had some pretty good results on grass the past few years despite his decline. Almost beat Roddick making the Wimbledon Semi's in '09 and who knows what could have happened against Murray if he played him. Also beat Federer in the Halle final last year. Nobody is going to want Hewitt)

    I picked players out of the Top 32.
     
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  7. Lsmkenpo

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    Philipp Petzschner- his game is very good on grass, great slice, volleys, and can serve big.

    Marcos Baghdatis- good grass court results in his career

    John Isner- Great serve, tough to break.

    Alexandr Dolgopolov- took Tsonga to 5 sets last year losing 10-8 in 5th. His unpredictable all court game seems well suited for grass.

    Lleyton Hewitt- still a threat to the top players on grass if healthy.
     
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  8. coloskier

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    Gotta agree with Raonic. If he gets hot on his serve for the entire match you might as well go home, especially on grass. Luckily for most players his serve is usually only hot for 50% of the match.
     
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  9. glazkovss

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    They use special rankings for seedings so Hewitt can end up seeded thanks to Wim09 QF and Halle title.
    Other dangerous unseeded I'd say Isner, Petshner, Kohl, Karl, even Falla (remember Fed?:)) and DeBakker (remember Nadal?:)). Most terrifying are Long John and Dr. Ivo.
     
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    1# Isner (if he gets a good draw)
    2# Fish
    3# Raonic
    4# Feli Lopez
    5# Gasquet
     
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    1. Dimitrov

    2. Raonic

    3. Querrey

    4. Isner

    5. Federer
     
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    He's won it six times out of the last 8 years.

    To me the definition of a dangerous floater is someone who may not be a likely champion, but can cause a potential upset. Karlovic for example has been a dangerous floater for the last ten years, but you can't call Federer a floater!
     
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    Sorry guys.

    Just wanted to see you react.
     
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  17. Qubax

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    Hewitt played Roddick in the QF last year.....but I'm guessing you knew that since you said he could have done good against Murray....

    the trouble is at this stage Hewitt is a grinder like Roddick....to be honest, pretty similar games.

    The one big difference is Roddick's serve. And at Wimbly it's a pretty big difference.
     
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    Dustin Brown- you gotta love this guy, I hope he gets into wimbly
     
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  19. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    umm, Hewitt can actually volley...
     
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    Dr. Ivo, JWT, The Legend of John Isner, Fish, Sir. Richard.
     
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  21. powerangle

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    I almost feel like Roddick should be getting floater status with the way he plays these days. Now if he makes some noise at Queens (ie winning it), I would put him back into the favorites column.
     
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    Hewitt won it before...and he has one each at Grass title at least once. If the surface is as fast or at least plays like grass should....his counterpunching style would work and could volley well Plus he is a great fighter....and even a hip busted hewitt pushed Roddick to 5 in 2009. SO he can do some damage....and may get another chance.

    Roddick....the guys has been the best guy not to win Wimbledon for so long. He has a huge serve, know his footing around the grass. Has the motivation and hunger for Wimbledon which is unequaled in other slams.

    Lopez.....his game has change from clay ocourting to more of a grass courter. A fine slice backhand that could be very liable in some sistuations would be a strong weapon here. He can volley well.


    Berdych and Gasquet. Both are mentally ill sometimes and can let the ocassion get to them. They are dangerous in the sense that they can play well on grass. Berdych reached the final in 10 and Qtr in 07. Gassy reached semis in 07 and had his chances in 08 to reach Qtr. Gasquet had his career defiing match against Roddick here and Berdych against Federer. If the draw bodes well and if they are primed and ready. They can give a scare to the top players.


    Last but no least.....Raonic. He is the second coming or Sampras....jkjkjk. He has a the natural game to do well on grass....have expectations for him. If he can keep it to together he can reach the second week for sure. Trouble many guys on HC....if Grass can at least be somewhat typical of a grass court....Raonic will do damage.
     
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  23. sarmpas

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    That's what I'm thinking. Forget the stuff about slower courts different balls etc. what's happened to Roddick's forehand, it is slow. Federer who's had his career side by side with Roddick is still hitting as as fast or almost as fast as he every did IMO.
     
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    "Floater" Clarification

    A "floater" cannot be a seeded player, rather someone who could wind up playing a top player in the first or second round, win and then take it further through that section the seeded player has been eliminated from. Therefore, Raonic is not a "floater" as he is inside the top 32. Isner has dropped out of the top 32 and, as he exhibited at RG, is a guy capable of pushing out the top guns. So please, no Roddicks, no Feds, no Fishes,etc.

    My five would have to include Isner, Karlovic, Hewitt, Petzschner and Lopez (I believe none can make it into the top 32 or will be given seeding by Wimby). Hewitt could be if he wins Halle but it would be a stretch by the committee.
     
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    Hewitt, Lopez, Isner, Petzschner, Falla

    There are always many dangerous floaters on grass (further proof that the surface is neither slow nor clay-like)
     
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  26. Doubles

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    I would pretty much pick these five guys as dark horses. Big serves, and they can be dangerous when they're on...
     
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    Isner, Querry, and Ivo K. would certainly be in the top 32 favorites if not in the 32 seeds. Kevin Anderson is a good pick. He had a good spring hardcourt season. Definitely dangerous. Raoinic with his serve should be a factor.
     
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    Isner (who is dangerous in the first rounds on fast clay too), Raonic, whom i saw at Halle this week(good serve, long legs, should train to move a bit better), Lodra, Karlovic in the first week.
     
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    Kind of off-topic, but when was the last time a player ranked outside the top 10 won a slam? USO 2002 with Sampras? How about reached a semi?

    I have a feeling these are becoming increasingly rare events...
     
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  30. Ernist Bloogis :)
     
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    lol

    That five setter with Federer has made Fallito a grass court beast.
     
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    Nadal barely escaped early round disaster vs. Roberto!
     
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    Unseeded Gaudio won '04 French.

    Youzhny made semis of last year's open as #12 seed.

    well, when you have 32 seeds, it does increase the likelihood of top players making later rounds. not to mention homogenization of playing styles & surfaces. dangerous floaters really don't exist anymore.
     
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    I just hope either Fed, Roddick, or Murray win it. But anyone other than Djokovic/Nadal will satisfy me.
     
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  35. MethodTennis

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    Fish floater at nine in the world. Right...
     
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  36. MethodTennis

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    Roddicks actually really quite good at the net. Infact Iwould say his vollies are fantastic. Its his singles positioning and when he aproaches in singles that a re the weak link in the chain. At doubles his vollies are actually really good when his positioning isnt a key factor and the approach isnt as tactical
     
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    2nd Major Blown by Missed Sitter Volley

    Gotta say though it was only one shot, ARod would have some more hardware on the mantle if his forehand volley mechanics were a little more sound. A two-set lead would have been enough the way he was serving in the '09 Wimby final. You just can't miss one of those!
     
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    If Back Injury is Severe, might Have to Drop Petzschner?

    Delete Petzschner if the back is bad; insert Kohlschreiber.
     
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  39. tennisfarmer

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    Ivo is my pick.............
     
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    Hewitt and Roddicks ground games are about as different as 2 baseliners can be....

    1.Hewitt
    2. Raonic
    3. Isner
    4. Anderson
    5. Querrey
     
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    Ditto on that :)
     
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    wait a second...
    you're saying soderling is light years away from MURRAY?
    i think you mean murray is lightyears away from the top 3 level-wise
     
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  43. Bud

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    He doesn't understand what a floater is :)

    He named 6 players when asked for 5... and 4 of the 6 are seeded (thus removing their floater status).
     
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  44. KyomasaNTH

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    All big servers are dangerous on grass.
    1) John Isner
    2) Milos Raonic
    3) Ivo Karlovic
    4) Feliciano Lopez
    5) Kevin Anderson
     
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    There's Always 1 Qualifier Who "Floats" Deep

    Watch out for Ryan Harrison, if he survives the qualies! Guccione could also be a "danger" man. Especially at Wimby, there's almost an advantage to having to qualie because you get the extra match play to adjust to conditions without getting worn out. Even long 3-setters rarely last more than 2 hours.

    May have to "cheat" and adjust my five with this in mind.
     
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    Mahut: If he's on he can threaten to beat anyone on grass. Probably wouldn't have the mental strength to close it out, but he can take a set off anyone.

    Isner: You serve big, you've always got a chance on this surface.

    Petzschner: Big serve and the surface really suits his game.

    Karlovic: See Isner.

    Kohlschreiber: Underrated player on his best surface.

    Honorable Mention for Tommy Haas, though he hasn't found his form yet after that long layoff.
     
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  49. BeHappy

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    Obviously Del Potro.
     
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    Awkward movement on a low-bouncing surface.

    Not sure if he would benefit from the grass season.
     
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