Navratilova seeks Czech citizenship again

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  1. superstition

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    The post was satirical and rooted in fact. Swift didn't actually hope that people would eat babies. I managed to slog through a few sentences of your diatribe and grew bored.
     
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  2. Rabbit

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    Let me summarize...

    You threw a statement out there which was challenged

    You had "proof" which consisted of shoulda, coulda, woulda, but no dida

    You tried to prove something with nothing

    Then you claimed "I was only joking" which given your lunatic fringe origins was clearly a fabrication

    It's funny how facts bore you...

    For you, par for the course.
     
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  3. Dedans Penthouse

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    Why that spineless "Bull/seawall-in-Holland" (compound word)! :)

    What a cop-out.

    I bet the real reason that she's not renouncing her U.S. citizenship altogether is because of the financial fallout that would've ensued from her 'Snap-on-Tools' commercials being pulled from TV and/or National Pubic Radio.

    Then again, on the bright side:
    1. she gets to "nosh-on-the-clam," and
    2. she still gets--in golf--to hit from the red tees.



    Q: What did Martina's original defection and an abortion in Prague have in common?:

    A: They were both canceled Czechs.
     
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  4. alwaysatnet

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    That's an apt analogy, comparing the U.S. to the sinking Titanic.
    I guess that would make Martina the rat that is swimming away(from the nation that has given her so much). Well, that's her right, to turn her ungrateful back on this country when it takes on some water. But is it sinking? Not by a long shot!
    And it's yours to back her up and suggest she move to some gay Nirvana where "gays are treated with more respect." Except she isn't leaving because of her sexual orientation. That's your spin.
    You probably couldn't even choose a breakfast cereal in the morning without considering the gay implications of your decision.
     
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  5. tamaj13

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    There was a time when tennis players and fans were among the higher echelons of human intellect. Unfortunately, we now have individuals amongst us who think like the individual who posted the moronic drivel above, and actually feel pleased with themselves because they are intellectually on par with pets that have yet to be trained. I pity our world because of cretins who post such fecal matter.
     
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  6. Dedans Penthouse

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    Re: your "once-upon-a-time when the tennis world was intellectually evolved" pipedream:

    let's see, didn't your "Golden Age of Tennis" include such intellectually evolved exercises as apartheid??? (see: American Tennis Association), not to mention 'shamateurism', the '72 Davis Cup finals, the '73 Wimbledon Men's draw, or, what the hell--while we're at it: Renee Richards? Or, should "ONCE UPON A TIME IN TENNIS...." stand to represent nothing more than some self-serving hallucination of an uppity windbag who pines for the good ol' days? I suggest that you alight from your hypocritical high-horse, for confusion (in your case) has appeared to have made its "masterpiece" (in a manner of speaking).

    Your post read as one part venial sanctimony mixed with one part blustering mother hen hysteria (think: a frazzled Aunt Bea of Andy-of-Mayberry fame). Sorry but the truth is that tennis players and fans once upon a time sanctioned the most unintellectual of exercises: barring PLAYERS on the basis of race--and that socio-currency of intellectual-wannabes rings as infinitely more counterfeit than your intellect 'heartlessly' being subjected to some harmless, sophomoric humor. :rolleyes: Me? Thank you but I'll hang my hat on a different 'hook', and I'll do so minus the pretense of a hackneyed, clumsy attempt at rhetorical grandilloquence when doing so.

    Martina Naratilova having an Alec Baldwin-esque hissy fit because of G.W. & Co. is nothing more than a tempest-in-a-teapot. If you choose to get your little fingers all twisted into knots just because I lampooned her and the absurdity of her "solution" to this *cough* earth-shaking development, that's your problem. And it sounds like a personal one at that. As for "cretin," do you really think I'm going to get my beautiful, acquiline nose all bent outta shape over some uppity stranger attempting to personally insult me by using the word 'cretin'? Think again and while you're at it, think: "water off a duck's back." Flames directed at me will be tolerated--not a problem sweetheart--but note bene: they will be graded. And from my perch, it appears that someone's "D-minus" intellectual effort has them poised on the brink of attending "summer school."

    Navratilova "walks?" Her call .... who cares?
     
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  7. Sean Dugan

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    Dedans, you're still funny.....;O)
     
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  8. Sean Dugan

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    Re: Martin.....who cares what he thinks/says? I know I don't. Someone mentioned she is pushing a book so that explains the sudden need to make controversial statements. Cha--ching.

    Maybe she should just shut up and savor everything this country has done for her. Maybe she should have tea with Dick Cheney's daughter and work out her grievances with the current administration..

    I think she is a bit ungrateful at best. I love it when recent immigrants criticize the US Gov't.. You must be joking.... right?

    If he/she/it is unhappy with the current state of affairs.....they can wait until November 2008 because W will be heading back to Crawford and I dare say Clinton Regime II will be installed. I guess then I'll apply for Czech citizenship. That's my prague-nosis.;o)

    Democracy is the worst form of government....except when compared to all the alternatives. ;o)

    And Phil.......I think for a long time, we've be run by maniacs, liars and idiots from both sides of the aisle. That is why we have two parties; disgusted with A, vote for B; disgusted with B, vote for A. In this case, A=B; the rhetoric may be different, the constituencies may have different interests, but the actions of the two parties seem remarkably similar.

    Re: Protests against " W." As a political conservative, I can absolutely tell you, W is not a conservative. He is a moderate. And if he hadn't gotten mired down in what is probably a failed war, his popularity rating would be in the 70's not the 30's and the republicans would still control congress.

    They'll never run out of maniacal nutty bomb throwing fanatics in Iraq and we have thus far fought a very PC war. The only way you could win a war in that place is to be absolutely ruthless; something we aren't prepared to do. We should have just ousted Saddam and replaced him with a dictator friendly to US interests that wouldn't cause any problems for us...then allow our boy Dick Tator to kill all the bad guys, declare victory and leave.

    While attempting to establish a viable democracy in Iraq was a noble experiment...I think it was also a experiment doomed to faliure from day one. That place is an absolute hell hole which Saddam kept control of by ruling with Stalin-like brutality. He just killed everyone that even so much as feigned protest. That is what works in Iraq. We never should have committed ground troops long term to that place. 3500+ dead brave good men and probably five times that amount with severe injuries and billions of dollars in incremental costs down the drain. Tak about ya appatunity casts. And for what......? If the Iraqis want a democracy, then let them fight and die for it. Our guys shouldn't have to do it for them. A true conservative never would have gotten into Iraq without a defined exit strategy or an end game. .. or at least a much better sales pitch to justify our continued presence there.

    A politician really can't afford to ignore political realities lest he drag his party down with him. Just ask Harry Truman. A republican president in particluar can count on 90 % of the press being against him.....so he better be able to sell his programs directly to the people or he is screwed. Bush even has his traditional constniuency po'd ....including yours truly.

    Can you say President Hillary? Thanks a lot W!

    And while W might be admired for not ruling via today's polling a la Billy Bob, he has taken it to an extreme.

    On the plus side,... no one has flown an airliner into a building since 2001...so the Bush Administration must be doing something right.

    I could be wrong......time will tell. ;o)

    Martina creeps me out,,too much of a guy,,,,, so I never listen to anything she says...seems like a good policy. I hope she moves back to the Czech Republic but I'm sure she won't.
     
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  9. Frank Silbermann

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    If Navratilova were upset with the U.S. for its treatment of gays, and with Republicans for opposing gay marriage that would be quite ironic -- considering that the U.S. has a much more positive attitude towards gays today than it did when she asked for political amnesty to stay here.

    As I recall, back then there was even _less_ support for gay marriage! In many states, gay sex was still a crime -- perhaps even a felony. Yet, she chose to come here anyway.

    It's like marrying a man even though you know he hates dancing, and then divorcing him twenty years later because he still refuses to take you dancing.
     
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  10. alwaysatnet

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    Based on what I've read Navratilova isn't threatening to leave based on any gay issues, though I'm sure she would love to see gay marriages legalized. That was the issue of just one obsessed poster who sees the world through his "gay-vision goggles". As I've said, that's his right.
    As I've also noted, I'm sure he finds Fruity Pebbles and Fruit Loops cereals too homophobic to purchase. I admire his tunnel vision if not his common sense.
     
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  11. Off The Wall

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    Martina

    Martina is ashamed of America for electing a nimrod president. She cannot stand to be a part of a country who would elect someone like Bush. After all, Bush will be gone in a couple of years, but Americans will stay.

    Hey, Martina, Alec Baldwin called, he wants a Czech citizenship application, too.
     
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  12. obanaghan

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    She should be patient and hope and wait for change. Some of us still disagree with her on probably everything but would fight for her right to state her opinion. The problem she faces is that no country is perfect and I am sure she would find the Czech Republic provincial.

    If gays could marry here in the US MN might have more divorces than CE!

    I think she is right on in her criticism of the Communists. She need to make the same choice that other Americans do; if the eneny of my enemy is my friend who is my enemy? As a conservative GOPer I see the fundamentalist Muslims and their similarly minded co-religionists as my primary enemy. I would rather be in a trench with Alec Baldwin, Barbra Streisand and Rosie O'Donnell than with the PLO, AlQaeda and the Taliban. Can liberals say that they would rather be in a trench with President Bush, Jim Dobson and Rush Limbaugh fighting the Islamofascists?

    Really MN do you think that homosexuals fare better here in the US than they might in Taliban led Afghanistan? Where would one's tennis career have been under Sheik Omar? Even the Communists taught girls to read and encouraged you to play tennis. Please take a deep breath and fully evaluate the situation.

    Lastly, might I point out that the three area affected by 9/11 are all blue state area(technically the Pentagon is in red state VA but CD is very blue). If the Islamofascists strike again it is very likely tobe a blue state again with a big city like Chicago, LA, SF, Seattle. It is in your own best interests to maximize the security and work with a less than ideal ally today to keep yourself safe until tomorrow.
     
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  13. Rabbit

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    Gay marriage? Hell, I'm all for it. Why shouldn't they be just as miserable as the rest of us? ;)
     
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  14. tamaj13

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    I meant to get this apology in prior to now, but...Yes, I know you don't care, but I do and ad-hominem attacks, calling people names, degrading them, etc. reflects the same level of mentality I reacted to and I expect better of myself. My bad and it won't happen again.
     
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