NBA 2012-2013 Discussion, keep it classy

Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by Say Chi Sin Lo, Oct 30, 2012.

  1. stringertom

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    Weak era...LOL!:twisted:
     
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    As a heat fan have to love this season Lebron is just a stud he has put 2 fingers up to anyone who says he can't play clutch
     
  3. Ronaldo

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    Pity the Nuggets cannot break the Heat's streak till the finals, eh?
     
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    Flip the coin...it may be the Heat encharged with streak-busting in the Finals!:twisted:
     
  5. Ronaldo

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    If both streaks last till then.......................epic!!!!!!!!!!
     
  6. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Somebody needs to get John Wall out of Washington. That's a lot of talent and mileage wasted on a team that's going nowhere.
     
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    We jinxed the Nuggets...Hornets crushed them without some of their own starters. They must hold on until Lawson returns.
     
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    They actually have a solid base with Wall & Beal, despite their draft busts (Vesely, McGee, Blatche, Young). If they can get a good young big in this years draft they can contend for the playoffs next year.
     
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    Had an idea Vesely was gonna be a bust when he was suckin face with his GF at the draft.

    But he still young maybe he can develop into a decent role player.
     
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    And frankly that would be alot more fun to watch than to see Wall bail out for an immediate contender like LeBron did.

    In the good old days, serious competitors like that fellow in your avatar built great teams from scratch. Sure they need some help from ownership and management, but the biggest stars have more than talent - they have star power.

    I hope Wall is that kind of guy because he sure is fun to watch.
     
  11. LeeD

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    Wall needs to put his nose to the grindstone and play decent, not great, EVERY single game. He just scored 46 or so, but look at his last 10 games. Goes 30, then 14, then 21, then 13, just like MonteEllis or JR from Knicks.
    Such inconsistent play cannot help his team mates. They don't know what to expect from their PG.
    Need someone like Parker, just 22 most games, not 40, then 12.
     
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    May be the New Breed of PG, like RW of OKC.
     
  13. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    He's a point guard, he's not supposed to be scoring every single game. He's supposed to be setting guys up and racking up assists.
     
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    Believe it or not, PG means Point Guard.
    Parker is the state of the art Point Guard. Not Westbrook, not Ellis, not Curry. Not James or Kobe.
    Rubio could be if he could average 16. Paul also. Lin could be, if he could just score 15 every game, and get his 10 assists.
     
  15. stringertom

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    There's too many different styles of PGs to label one "state of the art"; the good ones adapt to the players around them and the flow of each game. It's not a crime to take the offense in his own hands when the PG is "feeling it" and the defense he's facing is lacking...i.e. Deron Williams going for 42 a couple weeks ago on 9 treys in a half; he's an 18/8/3 guy and that's as as good a balance as you can ask for.
     
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    Stockton averaged 13 PPG for his career. By your definition he wasn't a good 'point' guard, no?
     
  17. LeeD

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    What is a good point guard?
    1. He has to be able to dribble upcourt without losing it...the ball.
    2. Since he passes more than anyone, he needs to pass without turning over the ball.
    3. He needs vision both near the rim and at the 3pt line.
    4. He needs to defend against fast breaks.
    5. Knock down a few shots, so he draws a double team when he penetrates.
    6. Get at least 6 assists a game, regularly. More can be a mute point, since an assist depends on the guy you passed to, to MAKE his shot.
    7. He needs to know who's hot and who's just throwing up bricks.
     
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    ^^^Too little mention of defense (steals, clogging passing lanes, pick&roll) & rebounding???
     
  19. Ronaldo

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    Whatcha think of the Big O?
     
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    GPGOAT...no one else will ever average a triple-double for a season, let alone a career!
     
  21. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    That's what I'm saying. Take Chauncey Billups for example, never lights up the stats sheet, he just gets a Finals MVP.
     
  22. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Wow, Clippers got robbed tonight.
     
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    Speaking of PG, I am really starting to dig this Trey Burke dude from Michigan.
     
  24. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    I think the Lakers and the Knicks are becoming the NBA's poster for "Don't build your team with old players."
     
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    Do they get older than Parker, Duncan, and Ginobli?
    Coaching is a big deal, to mesh the parts. On paper, a front line of Gasol, Howard, and RonArtist should be good enough.
     
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    The Artist Formerly known as Ron is out for 6 weeks.
     
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    Well, they'll miss 9 points, 4 rebs, and 4 fouls waiting for an ejection style of play.
     
  28. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    And bone-head shots.
     
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    He's supposed to be the "tough guy".
    Dont know why Howard and Bryant can't fill that bill.
    And they got a great SF sitting on the bench when Artest plays. One who's athletic, can run, jump, and do all the dirty work needed.
    While Nash is a liability on D, as is most smalls, the tree combo in the front court should be able to alter some shots.
     
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    Griffin grabbed Dirk by the jersey. It's pretty clear in the 'behind the Clips backboard' angle. He grabbed him by the jersey and then let go. Don't think Dirk flopped too much.
    From that angle, it was a clear foul, and the right call.
     
  31. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    The streak isn't looking so good against Chicago's no nonsense, persistent defense.
     
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    No ones ever averaged a triple double for their career
     
  33. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Well it's about time LeBron James takes his frustration out. Dude gets hacked hard all the time.

    Although I don't agree it being a flagrant, but definitely a technical.

    Blake Griffin, take notes. You can't just let dudes maul you down mid-flight night and night out.
     
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    I've always wondered what it must be like to be the biggest, strongest, fastest, and high jumpingest play on a court.
    At 6'9" and 265lbs., can jump so his head hits the rim, who intimidates him?
    Plenty of taller slower guys. A few heavier guys. Kinda like a determined RudyGay type.
    I started all 3 years for our varsity high school b ball team. Got to 5'7" when I graduated, maybe 118 lbs.
     
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    Happy to see my Bulls end the streak, even w/ no Noah (& no Rose of course). This team probably won't go far this year, but def has showed its fair share of heart lately. And Jimmy Butler is showing signs of being the wing player we need to complement a healthy D Rose.
     
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    that was fun while it lasted. miami starting off slow in games cost them tonight. luol deng looked completely exhausted in the 4th quarter. is there any coach who kills his players as much as thibs?
     
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    Look at the roster and tell me who should get those minutes. Vladimir Radmanovic? Hamilton, Bellinelli, Noah were all hurt tonight. Thibs does play his starters too much, but tonight for good reason thanks to all of the injuries and lack of depth.
     
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    I was so tied up in the Denver - Spurs game (pretty tight and dramatic throughout) that I didn't catch a second of the Heat - Bulls. Congrats to the Bulls. Must be flying high right now.
     
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    Lets cancel the rest of the season and go to the playoffs after April 8th, eh? My bad, after Tiger wins the Masters.
     
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    Too bad the heat lost the streak. Bad for everyone really. The nba, casual fans, media etc. bummer.
     
  41. Ronaldo

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    Especially the Spurs, hey, hey, hey.............
     
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    Would be amusing if miami sent wade, bosh and lbj home for the spurs game due to fatigue or whatever the Pop said was the reason for sending home Duncan, Parker and ginobli earlier this season when they went to miami.
     
  43. Ronaldo

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    Send them all home yet they showed to watch the game, eh?
     
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    Ahh, shame it's over. I wanted the Spurs to put an end to it :)
     
  45. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Couldn't agree more. I love it when teams find, develop, and showcase their in-house talent (like the Spurs).
     
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    Ditto the Nuggets!
     
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    I almost did, but didn't. Only because the Nuggets either traded or signed established players. Yes, they're not "superstars", but they'd have consistent minutes on virtually every other team in the league. Do I see George Karl finding players out of nowhere? Absolutely! Just not with this team. That's why in the beginning of the season, when a lot of people were not paying attention to the Denver Nuggets, I was like... Seriously? No one is giving the Denver Nuggets any thoughts? They're going to be the team that no one wants to in the Playoffs!

    I'm referring to the likes of Jimmy Butler, Taj Gibson, Danny Green, Kawhli Leonard, Gary Neal, and DeJuan Blair (come on man, dude ain't got no ACLs and he's killing people in the paint!).

    Finally, thanks to the San Antonio Spurs, George Hill is making bank in Indiana.
     
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    Minnesota got screwed, that was a clear example of being afraid to make the call against the star player
     
  49. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Which star player? I think Kobe fouled Rubio on the left forearm, but Dwight Howard smacked the back of his head. I'm not sure how the refs missed Dwight's smack.
     
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    I'm not sure how the ref missed the call on Kobe, he was right in front of him.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HhkVStaY90
     

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