NBA 2012-2013 Discussion, keep it classy

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  1. jamesblakefan#1

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    Team with worst record has won the draft lottery only once (2004).
     
  2. soyizgood

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    Eastern Conference Matchups, 1st Round

    My guesses:
    Heat vs Bucks - Heat in 4
    Knicks vs Celtics - Knicks in 5
    Pacers vs Hawks - Pacers in 5
    Nets vs Bulls - Nets in 6
     
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    The 2-5 seeds in the Western Conference did better than the Knicks. Jazz and the Mavs would have been in the playoffs if they were in the East. The three worst teams from the East.

    The Heat have no excuse to not make the Finals. The only team that could be a headache for them might be the Knicks. Pacers could fight, but just don't have enough firepower.
     
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    Spurs look like 1st round fodder. The Rockets will just run and gun. The Lakers will just bang up on Duncan and force someone else to step up. :(

    If the Spurs don't win the West, I'd rather have the Nuggets or Clippers win it.
     
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    Pacers can't do anything against the Knicks or Heat without Granger. Melo and Lebron will abuse George all day
     
  6. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Lakers/Rockets going to OT on Parsons' 3pointer out of a scramble, it was a DART of a 3 pointer.

    I was like: "Da Fuq?! That went in?"

    The rim went: "oww..."
     
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    Western Conference Matchups, 1st Round

    My guesses:
    Thunder vs Rockets - Thunder in 5
    Spurs vs Lakers - Lakers in 6
    Nuggets vs Warriors - Nuggets in 5
    Clippers vs Grizzlies - toss-up, but going for Clippers in 6
     
  8. hollywood9826

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    Thunder vs Rockets - Thunder Sweep
    Spurs vs Lakers - Spurs in 7 (becuase home court)
    Nuggets vs Warriors - Nuggets in 6
    Clippers vs Grizzlies - Grizz 7 games. Playoff BBall slower pace. Grizz are best slow pace team in the league IMO. I think Gasol is going to have a couple 12-14 assist games and they squeak by
     
  9. Fifth Set

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    I believe that the nba doesn't reseed after the first round. It's a "fixed bracket." That is, if Lakers, Nuggs and OKC win first round, Lakers play Nuggs, not OKC.

    Can anyone confirm?
     
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    Confirmed...just like a tennis tourney!
     
  11. soyizgood

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    No reseed in NBA.
     
  12. stringertom

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    Will lightning strike twice???

    That '04 distinction was Pat Williams/Magic and we got D12 as the prize!
     
  13. hollywood9826

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    No reseeding but i think the seeds are based off of record first now and not just off of division champs. A few yearrs ago the clippers would have been the three seed because they won thier division now Denver is the three becuase they have a better record.

    That was in response to a few years back the Spurs played the Mavs in a 1vs 4 even though they had the 2 best records in the west. So they way it is now the two best records will not meet until the finals if the win out.
     
  14. tennismonkey

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    it's fun to daydream. even with kobe it wasn't gonna happen. he just would've made it far more fun and interesting.
     
  15. Fifth Set

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    LOL, I'm not making any predictions! It does seem like many folks think the Lakers can still give SA some trouble. Granted, it's hard to tell what the playoff Spurs will look like - who is healthy, who will play, is tmac still able, etc., but its a tall order for the Lakers.

    Where it gets interesting for me though is that I would love to see Denver win it all. I think our chances are better against LA (with Denver having home court) than against SA (with Spurs having home court). Of course there is that other team in Oakland that must be beat first!
     
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    Black Thursday today...Cavs fire Byron Scott, Pistons axe Lawrence Frank and the Sixers boot Collins upstairs from the bench. I'm a little surprised about Scott.
     
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    What are you guys making of the lines on the opening games this weekend? Some pretty big spreads.

    Laker fans not putting their money where their mouths are - 8.5 point spread for Spurs!
     
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    Day 1 of the playoffs:

    The saying is "a playoff series doesn't begin until the home team loses". If so, nothing happened today. Still, some surprising trends may have been established.

    1. Carmelo lit up the stat sheet but the old Nets tandem (Kidd/Camby) bailed the Knicks out with gritty second-half play.

    2. Noah shouldn't be out there on the bad wheel. Shut him down before he hurts himself worse. Great day for NYC, hosting two playoff games!

    3. Defense? Who thought any of that stuff would show up in Denver! I like Denver in this series, especially if the Lee injury turns out serious.

    4. The series I thought would be a toss-up was the biggest blowout...Clippers looked strong and deep.
     
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    Camby never played for the Nets. You mean Martin.

    And LAC/Grizz has 7 games written all over it.
     
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    Yeah, good catch there...I meant Kenyon; he bailed Chandler out yesterday.

    I agree about the 4/5 matchup...just surprised game 1 wasn't closer.
     
  21. Fifth Set

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    Vintage Popovich genius - Parker and Manu suddenly ok to play once real season rolls around.
     
  22. Disgruntled Worker

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    The opening round of the NBA playoffs. Nothing quite like it!
     
  23. jamesblakefan#1

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    David Lee out for playoffs...tough luck for GS.
     
  24. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Yeah and that was easily the best game of all the 1st games duds.

    I still can't see Clippers going far. Don't get me wrong, they're playing great, but it's their attitude that doesn't make me a believer.

    Aside from Chris Paul, Chauncey Billups, and Blake Griffin, everyone else on that Clippers plays like they just want to put on a show, not to win.
     
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    Whatever team Rasheed Wallace is on I am rooting for. One more " what #@!^ foul"!
     
  26. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    So you're cheering for your local YMCA club?
     
  27. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    That 03-04 Detroit Pistons championship team was memorable, and it's nice to see Chauncey Billups going up against Tayshaun Prince.
     
  28. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Wow, Marc Gasol is getting robbed on a lot of these calls...

    And Memphis is shooting themselves in the foot with all these missed free throws.
     
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    One series has begun...the Bulls are the first team with a road win, thanks .190 arc-shooting by the Nets and some stout play by Chicago's bigs (Boozer was a beast).
     
  30. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    It's about damn time he shows up for a series...
     
  31. Disgruntled Worker

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    How much blame does Mike D'Antoni deserve this year considering the injuries they've had? Howard's shoulder, Nash's ankle, and, most recently, Kobe's Achilles. What would you have done differently?
     
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    If I was the Lakers,

    Not hire Dantoni.

    If I was Dantoni,

    Got Pau more involved in the offense and ran it through the post with him. Told kobe to use more steriods so he wouldnt get huirt even though hes old has has tons of minutes on him and should have been hurt 4 years ago but that german guy keeps pumping him with roids. So I would have had him pump Kobe with even more roids.
     
  33. Disgruntled Worker

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    Why wouldn't you hire D'Antoni? Would Phil Jackson's triangle system have complemented their system better? Personally, I believe while the triangle would have maximized the Lakers potential by allowing Gasol greater range, injuries would have been too much either way. An on a side note, I don't believe Kobe took steroids. They're very strict on that these days.
     
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    The Lakers goal at the start of every season is to win the title. Dantoni has never won a title. The closest he got was with PHI when Nash was in his prime and Stoudmaire was all over the place and they had all those other pieces.

    The Lakers did/do not have the personel to do what Dantoni does. With him you have zero percent chance of winning a title.
     
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    My point is though injury and attrition are also factors this season. You put Doc Rivers into the head coaching position right now, and I still think with all the stuff going on with players' health they still wouldn't be heavy favorites. D'Antoni's systems are inherently flawed because they don't require a team to defend or rebound. But this particular Lakers squad would not have made an impact even if Greg Popovich was the coach.
     
  36. tennismonkey

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    even with 100% healthy players in howard, bryant, nash, gasol, world peace - dantoni can't win the title. i think full strength they are still behind okc and san antonio.

    for the same reason - coaching - i thought the clips were at best #3 but maybe having a point god can overcome the del negro effect.
     
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    D'Antoni can't be blamed. Too many injuries, no training camp to install his system. I'll give him credit for using Pau a bit better now than he was at first, and Dwight deciding to show up helps as well. But this team could have had Phil, Red Auerbach, and John Wooden all coaching at the same time and still wouldn't be winning the title all things considered.
     
  38. Ronaldo

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    Miami/Milwaukee on NBA-TV??????????????? Yeshhhhhhhhhhh
     
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    Celtics match their weekend woes in second-half scoring...23 points after the break tonight. 'Melo/J.R./Felton nearly outscore the entire Boston roster.
     
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    Even with a tremendous home-court advantage, you won't win many times when the visitors shoot 65%! LeeD must be doing somersaults!
     
  41. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Yeah but you aren't going to shoot 65% many times either...
     
  42. stringertom

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    GSW got the split none of us thought possible, especially after the Lee injury. Win out at home and they take this in six. Karl will harp on "D" if they are to take back home-court advantage.
     
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    Nash wasn't the answer. He's a shell of his former self - and NEVER could play defense. As great as it worked out for Clipper fans, David Stern hosed the Lakers when he voided the trade.

    When to the conference finals start? August?
     
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    Yep, almost as strict on PEDs as the NBA is on the hippy lettuce.
     
  45. tennismonkey

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    forgot about that. could've been CP3, kobe, howard. that's a big three that on paper rivals miami's big three. kobe probably wouldn't have broken down if he had paul too. lots of easy buckets for howard.
     
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    The remarkable thing about that performance is that it wasn't all dunks on fast breaks. Nor was Denver's defense really that bad. GS just made every shot. Inside, outside, beyond the arc, off balance, on one leg, closely guarded, whatever.

    Before this game, GS had gone 3-18 without Lee in the lineup since he joined the team.
     
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    Yeah, 50% on treys is a stout stat! Still, Karl has to get his guys to contest the bombers and hope the weakened inside-game Warriors don't blow up on them again. One of two in Oakland is what they need, maybe game 4 if the Manimal's wheel improves.
     
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    What does the NBA have against Kale?
     
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    Well, Chris Anderson of the Heat got crushed a couple of years ago for abusing cocaine. Two-year ban if I recall. This is a documented example. Just like Tim Donaghy was busted for fixing games. These are two isolated incidents and suddenly EVERY great athlete is on steroids or every referee is working with the mob. Jordan, Dr. J, Bob Cousy were ALL on the juice!
     
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    oh yea, a big name backup like Anderson getting busted shows the NBA is strict on its drug policies. Funny that you chose 3 old timers who no one thinks cheated instead of listing guys like D Howard, Lebron, and maybe Karl Malone. I bet you think the MLB had cleaned up its cheaters too.
     

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