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  1. Nathaniel_Near

    Nathaniel_Near Talk Tennis Guru

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    Don't think so, no. Not seen him anyway.


    Also about Pacers vs Spurs. I see it a bit like.. I dunno, Djokovic vs Nishikori or something similar -- Quite similar teams but Spurs have a clear edge and so there's nowhere for the Pacers to go to realistically win the series.
     
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    LeBron was clearly fouled there but didn't get the call, it was very clear too.
     
  3. Nathaniel_Near

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    An amazing effort from the Heat here in this game 7 thus far. I've been impressed with their effort on the glass. Dwyane Wade has been hustling like a boss, and so has the whole Miami team.
     
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    55-76 to the Heat at the end of the 3rd.


    A mini miracle is required for the Pacers to pull this one out the bag.
     
  5. Ronaldo

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    Getting a foul call would be like Jim Brown getting a call, forgetaboutit. Money prob in a box, chillin'
     
  6. Andyroddickfan

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    So this is what happens when MVP, wade and bosh all play well. Ok mostly wade and lebron, bosh just isn't sucking. This series would be over in 5 games. Miami will do fine on Parker and Manu. Whatever anyways, spurs can't guard wade and bron.
     
  7. Nathaniel_Near

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    He probably is.
     
  8. Nathaniel_Near

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    *nods*


    10ten
     
  9. Nathaniel_Near

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    Strange delayed call, Paul George fouls out of game 7.
     
  10. Ronaldo

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    Let Lebron step back and see if this team steps up. Cuz or not
     
  11. Nathaniel_Near

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    I'm not sure what Cuz or not means. You have 12000 posts BTW how the heck haven't I noticed you much before. Do you post in general matches and the pro match results sub sections too? Greetings.
     
  12. Ronaldo

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    Bosh is wifey's cuz. But she ain't having it. Always suspect not enough Texas Pete, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubV3t9_CwDc
     
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  13. Nathaniel_Near

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    I don't think I've ever been so confused in my life! :D

    Very funny video clip. My afro used to be almost as big as his.
     
  14. Ronaldo

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    So was mine, but how bout Birdman and Zo!!!!
     
  15. Nathaniel_Near

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    LeBron James certainly won't be seeing those times again, here's where he's headed:

    [​IMG]
     
  16. Nathaniel_Near

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    What a result it was for the Miami Heat, here's to hoping they win the Championship yet again.
     
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    Spurs v. Heat eh? I'm sure Miami will win but I hope the "old guys" put up a fight.
     
  18. Ronaldo

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    Spurs are younger than Miami. Other than the Big Three, the Spurs are mostly 20somethings.
     
  19. tennisplayer1993

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    Yeah, but the Miami team still have bosh/lebron in his prime and wade just out of his (wade has taken quantum leaps backwards last few seasons, no where near his 2006 dominant self). In terms of team basketball though, this team reminds me a hell a lot of the Sacremento Kings 2001-2002 for some reason (team had Chris Webber as their best player, followed by very good starters and role players). I hate Miami but the team basketball they have played this season is cray. I believe if they were more focused during the regular season 70-12 could have been possible (but as the viewers saw they stepped it up after the all star break and just went flatout dominant)

    I'm hoping Spurs in 6 games. Lebron is going to have reoccurring nightmares about the swept he faced 6 years ago in the finals to the same team pretty much (just with new role players and no Bruce Bowen).
     
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  20. Ronaldo

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    Those nightmares already started. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5iRJFU4uR4
     
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    IMO my biggest issue with him is his insecurity about his game and his past. He just seems so sensitive IMO, put his athleticism into a body like Kobe who has a cold demeanor and just has that killer instinct MJ had. IMO, Lebron is claimed to have a great work ethic, then why hasn't his free throw shooting improved over the past 10 years (I'm sorry but shooting 65-75% is not acceptable for a player who claims to be a threat for Jordan GOAT status)? Jordan was horrid at 3 point range and eventually improved that by the 1990s. Kobe had to rely a lot on his jumpshot after his laundry list of injuries in his prime.

    Also Lebron just seems to be the type of man who has to protect himself when he is being criticized by greats like MJ, I don't see why he has to prove himself when he is OK with who he is. When Kobe was compared to MJ back in the early 2000s, he said Michael is the greatest to ever play the game, I just want to be Kobe, not another MJ. Kobe also played in a rugged western conference throughout his career (very competitive in the early 2000s, having a three peat with teams like the Kings, Spurs, Wolves, is pretty darn tough), Lebron has always played in a weaker conference.

    I just have so many issues about Lebron as a person and as a player. I don't see how I can ever like him personally.

    Also Lebron IMO is a very interesting player: MJ athlete pretty much in a Magic Johnson type of mindset. Very intriguing. Not denying fact he is a top 10 most talented player ever to grace basketball. I don't think people remember how when Kobe came into the league, he was just an above average role player for 2-3 years and became a superstar IMO in 2000-2001. He had to work on his game because he was not as naturally gifted as Dr. J, MJ, Lebron.
     
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  22. Andyroddickfan

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    Wow. Lebron is HUGE. What a monster. Duh I know, but damn.
     
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    Is LeBron the best right now no question but I can't root for the guy. Never have and never will. Hard to describe but there's something very unemotional about his game to me. He dominates physically and because in this era you can't have an enforcer to kill him when he comes to the paint (of course he'd cry about that though). Flopper and proud of it. I know it's beating a buried horse now but I can never bring myself to put him in an all time great class personally. His accomplishments seem hollow since he took the easy way out (and likely will again since wade and bosh are washing up).
     
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    Needless to say I'm rooting for San Antonio to win another and truly get the respect they deserve as one of the great franchise in sports history
     
  25. Disgruntled Worker

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    Easy to criticize a guy when you've never walked in his shoes. He's unemotional maybe because he didn't have a DAD growing up. He's done nothing but improve his game since coming into the league with more hype than any player in NBA history. And, for the most part, he's lived up to it. He is an ambassador of the game that is 100 percent dedicated to basketball and not messing around trying to play baseball or release a rap album.
     
  26. Ronaldo

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    Lebron was an Ohio All-State receiver as a Sophomore and Junior. He can get much larger, like 6' 8" 300+ pounds.
     
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    i grew up watching jordan play. to me he's the best to ever play and nobody (kobe, lebron) is even in the discussion until they match his 6 rings.

    but don't let your lebron hate distort facts. lebron is a 74% career FT shooter. and he's shooting 77% FT this year in the playoffs. he's already talked about improving his FT percentage this offseason. i don't doubt him. he's spent past offseasons fixing his jump shot and post up game. vastly different player than the one that took his terrible cleveland team to the nba finals.

    also near as i know he's never been charged with sexually assaulting anyone like kobe and he's never been suspended from the league for gambling addiction like MJ. he wanted to play minor league baseball? in the prime of his career? that makes sense.
     
  28. tennisplayer1993

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    Ok Michael Jordan was going through a very rough time in his life at that time. And he wanted to take a break from basketball because of his father's death. He got bored of dominating one sport, he wanted to try another one.
     
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    I definitely agree with you there. Sorry, I just do not respect a guy who claims to win a championship for the team he got drafted by and then betrays them on national TV and claims he will win 8 championships with the Heat. I just think he runs his mouth too much. Also Kobe still played very well with the sexual assault case during the 2003-2004 season. Averaging 24 ppg, hitting at least 3-4 game winners despite hearing rapist every two seconds from away games crowds. I mean I respect Kobe because he worked from being a mediocre role player to a top 10 player in NBA history. Lebron to me is an arrogant self-diluted person who resorts to running his mouth at times or making decisions that lead people to hate him (aka the Decision and flopping excessively).

    I do agree however if I was Lebron and I was drafted by the Cavaliers, I would stay quiet and just finish my rookie contract and join a better team with a better history and hall of famers who can help guide me through a successful career. I think to an extent Lebron should have left a lot earlier from Cleveland but I don't blame him as a young 20-25 year old guy not knowing what to do with his career. He's young and like me (I'm 20), not sure what I really want in life.
     
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    Lets just hope it isn't rigged like the NBA finals 2006. I still think that was by far the most rigged finals this decade. Mavericks should be a two time champion in the past 7 years. Also there is youtube proof that the 2006 ECF was also rigged. The Pistons IMO got robbed of 3 possibly 4 final appearances (also Rasheed claims the 2007 Eastern Finals was rigged to get the NBA golden boy into the finals: Lebron).
     
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    i'm torn this series and will be rooting for both teams. i really wanna see both teams elevate and push each other to higher and higher gears. and we get to see how high that ceiling is. i'll be very happy with either team winning the title.

    9 hours to tip off.
     
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    i think karl wanted too much money or years on his contract. nba is funny that coaches with winning records can lose their job. vinny d is another example.
     
  35. Ronaldo

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    Yes, remember the inmates running Larry Brown away from the Pistons. Luckily, the Knicks picked him up for a nickel.
     
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    When Lebron came into the league, he was 6'9" and 265lbs.
    Now he's still 6'9", but closer to 250 lbs.
    Rudy Gay is just as big, as are several slower and lower jumping low profile NBA players.
     
  37. Ronaldo

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    Thought Lebron was 6' 8"? Guess we all shrink with age?
     
  38. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Why is Wade crying during the Star Spangled Banner? Because he got to jump to it?
     
  40. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Well that was easy, 9-0 run to start the Finals for the Spurs.

    What rust?
     
  41. Ronaldo

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    Rust or Rest?
     
  42. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    I'm actually impressed by the Heat so far, because LeBron James hasn't gotten involved yet.
     
  43. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    I really want a Tracy McGrady sighting in a meaningful way.

    Way to go Boris Diaw, way get your hall-of-fame center a 2nd foul in the 1st quarter.
     
  44. tennisplayer1993

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    I have a gut feeling this will be a reminiscent series to the 2006 Finals. The Spurs will get screwed by officiating as David Stern does almost every year for the more "popular" team in the finals.
     
  45. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    What about their 3 other championships? I can't imagine them being the more "popular" team in ANY Finals.
     
  46. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Duncan has pretty much missed all of his point-blank layups/and-1s. :(
     
  47. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Someone needs to tell Chris Bosh that Duncan is playing with two fouls, stop shooting jump shots and take it to the paint!
     
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    In 2006, they had Shaq and Wade. At least where I live, a lot of people became Heat fans around 2004-2005 once they landed Shaq. During the ECF 2006 finals, there are hints of the series being fixed for the Heat, good amount of evidence via youtube. Wade was not "fouled" as often as he got calls for and Mark Cuban accused Stern of cheating his team after game 5 that year.

    However, I do agree the past few finals have been legit. But lately with all this flopping from the Heat, they have been getting away with a lot of bad calls IMO. However last year finals game 1 was kind of lopsided, OKC had 5 free throw attempts while MIA had 28 free throw attempts. It raised some eyebrows.

    Another example of a popular team winning is the 2001-2002 Lakers, the 2001-2002 Sacremento Kings IMO should have won that series if not for some really bad calls in game 5 and game 6. Sacremento would have gotten a ring and my man, Chris Webber will finally forget the nightmares he had from his "timeout" during the NCAA championship game.

    Really good proof of the more popular teams winning is the eastern conference finals in 2006 and 2007, Rasheed Wallace talks about officiating in the 2007 ECF, I forgot where. Pistons IMO should have reached 3 finals during the mid 2000s (2004,2005,2006). Lebron did beat the Pistons soundly in 2007 ECF so I don't think Rasheed had a logical argument there.
     
  49. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    The game is not looking good for the Spurs, because LeBron James hasn't really been involved yet.
     
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    Anyone catch what lebron said about Duncan as he was entering the heat lockeroom?
     

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