NCAA Men's Draw

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  2. Fedace

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    Looks like Stanford has it Easy for the 1st 2 rounds. then we will probably play USC at college station. Stanford has beaten them before so should be a win there. but then, most likely next up will be Virginia. hopefully, virginia will choke there.
     
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    anybody with knowledge of SEC tennis? particularly Kentucky? Wake Forest is probably looking at a second round matchup with the cats in Lexington if they can get past northwestern
     
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    Kentucky is good. not great, but good. the guys that play on the team have been together a long time as quite of few of them went to Bolliteri together.
     
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    Ole Miss went undefeated in the regular season, and won the SEC tournament. Watch out for the rebels.
     
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    Finished #2 and didn't get a home match? Something very fishy about that.
     
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    If, by some catastrophy, Stanford doesn't make it, it could be Ohio State vs Virginia in the Finals. This should be a interesting match up. With Chase added to the lineup, Ohio state may have a decent chance here.
     
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    Im pissed that Northwestern got in over Indiana who beat them in regular season and went further in the big 10 tourney. The NCAA has to be the worst organization in sports, what a joke all round from bad selection in the basketball tourney through the whole bowl fiasco.
     
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    Cry me a river. There are too many teams in the tournament anyway. No team in the 33-48 range will win more than one match.
     
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    Northwestern has big time influence in BIG 10 conference and in turn NCAA. so it didn't surprise me that they got in. also they have improved a great deal over last year, and their #1 player had some impressive wins.
     
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    I do agree with the lack of upsets but the selection seems to be pretty much based on a very bad ranking system.
     
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  12. woodrow1029

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    There are regional geographic rules in place that prevented them for hosting first 2 rounds. Also, they may not have filled out the proper paperwork. The Championships handbook can be found on the NCAA website if you wanted to look at the geographic rules.
     
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    And don't forget that 31 of the entries are based on automatic entrance because of winning conference championship.
     
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    They also lost to USC.
     
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    When does the Division II draw come out?
     
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    Fedace has an obsession. No team will beat UVA at college station if they go in hot. It's good to root for your team but you have to accept that they are not as good as you think they are.
     
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    Seriously, can any other teams besides Ole Miss, Virginia, and Ohio St. win the championship?

    Fedace, I know you passionately back the Cardinal, and I don't doubt they can go deep, but, honestly, can they win it?
     
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    That is what they said about UVA last year with Somdev on the team and What happened there ?????????:confused:
     
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  19. woodrow1029

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    He has a point.

    God that was painful..
     
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    YES they can go all the way. IF they beat USC, they will become unbeatable cause they have so much to prove, not to mention having the best coach on Earth.
     
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  21. woodrow1029

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    Are you coming to Stanford for 1st and 2nd rounds, Fedace?
     
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    That is a Maybe. but i run a Risk, and you know what that is.:shock:
     
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    Which risk is that?
     
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    You know what happened with Ojai thread. I am not going into that again. It is NOT worth it.
     
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    Well, if you come up, look me up. I am a chair umpire for the men, and the head referee for the women that weekend.
     
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    Did you notice how the Stanford guys are so honest and fair with all their linecalls and yet guys from Cal and UCLA are making bad calls left and right. Don't you want to just give them the point penalty right away....?:)
     
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    Did I miss something in the Ojai thread? Was someone threatening Fedace? I know that we tease him, but there is really no need for threats (real or imagined). Woodrow, I will look you up at Stanford. Fedace, if you do come, say hi to me. I will be the coach with the Chabot College sweats or windbreaker.
     
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    ^^^Yes, Thacher will be the difference maker, when we upset Virginia.
     
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    I would say the first tier includes not only Virginia, Ohio State, and Ole Miss, but also UCLA and Baylor. The winner should almost certainly come from this group.

    The second tier includes Texas, Texas A&M, Georgia, Tennessee, USC, Stanford, and Florida. It is possible, but not very likely, that the winner could be a team from this second tier that gets hot, but it has been a while since such a thing happened.
     
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    how can you say georgia is a second tier team. they are the 4th seed and 2 time defending champion. they have been in the final match 8 of the last 12 years. I feel like they deserve a little more credit.
     
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    Ohio State is a power house. My heart is with Wake Forest. Lets go Deacons.
     
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  35. woodrow1029

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    Actually, the Cal guys are pretty fair when it comes to line calls. I didn't work any of the UCLA matches this year, so I can't comment on them.
     
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    Pssh, the Dawgs are going to quietly make the finals, as usual, and bring home another National Championship to Athens.
     
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  37. Mastadon_10S

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    Virginia has a great team. A good buddy of mine did some coaching out there last year, Go Cavs!
     
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    Because I think they have no margin for error when they play another top team. In the indoors, they had a little bit of lineup stacking, with Varela down at #6. They knew that Malo and Bernstein were not going to win against top teams, so getting one point from 4/5/6 was as much as they could hope for. Then they had a mini-stack in doubles, swapping their 2nd and 3rd best teams so they could get wins at 1 and 3 and sacrifice #2 doubles. They are pulling that same doubles stack again, swapping 2/3 teams just since last weekend's SEC tourney (!) in the lineup they submitted for the NCAAs. But Varela is up at #4 singles now where he belongs, making his job a lot tougher.

    Georgia has to win 1/2/3 singles and 1/3 doubles to beat a top team 4-3. That could happen, but it leaves no margin for error at those positions. They are very strong at those positions, but not unbeatable. There are some great #1 players and #1 doubles teams in the NCAA field, for example.

    Georgia is a 4 seed largely based on making the finals at the indoors where they worked their lineup stacks to perfection and squeaked by in the easier half of the draw. They are now in the tougher half of the draw for the outdoors.

    Georgia deserves a lot of credit for what they have done in the past, and they will have more depth next year as some more recruits arrive. This just isn't their year.
     
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    Yeah, well UVA stacks also, as we have seen.
     
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    I think your claim was refuted a while back. Are you parading your ignorance again? Virginia beat your team fair and square and did not even play well in doing it. Get over it.
     
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    Georgia has some scary good players and they are very deep. that is what makes them dangerous. and they could upset Virginia. It would not surprise me if Virginia choked again like last year.
     
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    I wouldn't be shocked if UVA lost to FSU.

    I have no idea how TAMU courts play but UVA needs fast courts and little to no wind conditions to win

    If the courts are playing slow, then they have no chance
     
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    I think TAMU is medium paced hard courts. and it can get windy at times at College station, TX.
    If UVA needs Fast courts then how did they win at Chicago ??? chicago Indoors were played on Medium to Slow indoor plexicushion courts...
     
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    Actually, the TAMU courts are really, really slow.
     
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    While they may play slow for an INDOOR court, indoor courts play much faster than outdoor. And yes, TAMU's courts play pretty slow.
     
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    You don't go 29-0 without being able to win on all surfaces.
     
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    Speaking of the surface, if it doesn't benefit UVa, who does it benefit? Certainly not Ohio State, who plays almost all of their matches indoors. I don't know about who else.
    Maybe it gives A&M a shot to make a run? I tend to think that team has more talent on it than it has shown. Even without home court, they should have a shot to win 1-4 against every team in the country.
     
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    I don't mean that they will lose to FSU if the conditions don't suit them but rather, it'll be a harder match than they wanted.

    UVA is most vulnerable on slower surfaces as their 1 reminds me of Goran, 2 hits very flat ball, 4 is S&V player, 5 is Karlovic

    What I'm saying is that if the surface is as slow as yall say it is, then they have no chance of winning it all. Absolutely none
     
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    UCLA or Virginia should win it all. That is my prediction for what it's worth
     
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    Not sure about the court conditions. Do you think slow hard courts really favor one team over another at a College level ?
     
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