Ncode Tour 90 - Asian Edition

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  1. tennisnoob

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    Just bought one whilst I was in Singapore, feels lighter than the U.S. version for sure and more forgiving as well. I was able to generate quite a lot of spin on my forehands, 1 h/backhands and serve and it feels just as stable when i hit really hard. TW should really bring in these racquets!!
     
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  2. thebanker

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    HI Tennisnoob,

    Can you give us feedback in regards to the Asian Edition of the Ncode vs the PS 60 85/95 and the US Ncode 90; eg, stabilty, power, etc. Any response would be greatly appreciated.

    Thx,

    thebanker
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  3. RedGinseng

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    anCode 90 is 320g (unstrung) so it definitely lighter than the US version. It seems like many people who had used old wilson prostaffs switched to either the ancode 95 or the ancode 90.
     
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  4. BreakPoint

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    Does anyone know what the swingweight is on the AnCode 90?

    How does it compare to the PS 6.0 95?

    Thanks
     
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  5. tennisnoob

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    Gosh, it doesn't say a thing on the racket with regards to the swing weight and all. But it does feel overall very similar to PS 85 except its more forgiving and more manouverable at the net may be due to its lighter weight. As for power ratings, i would still rate this racket as a low power racket, you will still need to get a good swing at the ball in order to generate enough pace. It is still a demanding racket due to its thin 17mm beam but albeit lesser compared to the st' vincent & taiwan pro staff that I have. The racket seems easier to impart spin compared to PS 85 may be due to its slightly larger sweetspot, perhaps the strings played a part as well, i strung the Asian Ncode 90 with Pacific Classic Natural Gut and it hits like a dream! As for stability, i don't feel so much torque when returning big serves or during groundstroke rallies, volleys were pretty easy as well, there were a few times when I had to bend low to volley and I was surprised that the volley was pretty deep considering the weight of this racquet, may be that nano-technology crap really works, who knows? As for a comparison with the PS 95, i will try and get the Asian Edition Ncode 95 from my local friends in Singapore and demo. Will update when I'm done.
     
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  6. jings

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    Hit with my An90 for the second time today and I am sold on this puppy. It is suprisingly stable, has a great sweet spot and because of the weight and 9 pts H/L you can really start getting some scary action on the ball. It serves really well as I can at last get some snap back into the old shoulder and wrist and was getting some good side spin on serves today. Possibly it excels best at the net, it is very steady and again with a surprisingly large sweet spot it volleys way firmer than I expect. It's not much of a frame to look at, ie the narrow beam makes it look flimsy, but it handles anything but. If you like the "90" Wilson mould but find the US sticks too heavy to get about then seriously have a look at this one. The An90 is definitely stiffer in the beam than the Tour90 racquets (US and Asian) and is closer to 6.0 95 feel with some flex in the hoop. Too long ago to compare it to an 85. I was lamenting my 58/54 tension yesterday on another thread, but that feels about right today. Getting a hair more dwell time and with the lighter racquet really getting some action on the ball. Strung Bow gut mains, Lux alu rough cross. Power is not in abundance with the frame, but if you get the ball out in front with decent strokes you can get all you need. As to swingweight I'd be guessing as I don't know how to calculate it, but I've have this below the 6.0 95 for sure, but not fairy wand territory ... at a guess an even 300.

    the banker / breakpoint if you're reading I checked in last night but the guy won't ship to US. Only thing I can suggest is contacting a Wilson agent in Asia. That, or TW if you're reading, seriously take a look at this frame. It may be a hair light for some but it's ideal for custom. I'm a little surprised I'm enjoying it stock, I thought it would be too light, but it handles way better than I'd expected and I seriously doubt I'll play it other than stock now. I put a second frame on order last night too ... what more can I say!
     
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  7. BreakPoint

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    Jings,
    Thanks for the update. Sounds like I really should try the An90. I hope TW is able to convince Wilson to allow TW to sell them here in the U.S. If not, I may have to convince you to ship me some. ;) BTW, how much are you paying for the second An90 (just the racquet)?

    Also, do you know if the An90 is only available in Singapore or is it also available in other Asian countries like Taiwan, Hong Kong, Japan, etc.?
     
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  8. loubapache

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    I was in China for a couple of weeks and saw these Asian N90 and N95 for sale around $160. I did not buy any because of what I read here (too light so not stable). Now I will but one or wo when I go back in March. They only have grip sizes up to L3 and I asked the owner if she stocls L4 and she said they are not very popular.
     
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  9. stanleyshyeoh

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    So I see people agreeing the Asian nCode90 feels good. I had the opportunity to hit with one for a short while and it was a very pleasant surprise.

    Earlier, my impression on the Asian Tour 90 was bad. So my expectations for the Asian nCode 90 wasn't high at all. It exceeded my expectations significantly.

    I've been holding on to a brand new still grip wrapped US Tour 90 in my hands for nearly a month now. The only reason its still in wraps is the Asian nCode 90.

    I'd sell/swap my new US Tour 90 41/4 for a new Asian nCode 90. Any Malaysian or Singaporean up for a heavy Tour 90?
     
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  10. Ray Wong

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    Breakpoint, all N90 sale in Hong Kong are asian version (320gm), I know Japan also, around HK$1400, most of stores with 70-80% discount. But like loubapache said, only L2-4 available. I have one US N90 bought from TW but haven't tried asian version.

    http://wilson-ncode.jp/products/nsix1_tour.html
     
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  11. BreakPoint

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    Ray,
    Is that HK$1,400 price before or after 70-80% discount? Because that's already like US$180, which is how much a US version of the n90 costs in the US before any discounts. Do you know how much an Asian n90 costs after discounts from a store in Hong Kong? Also, do you know of any stores that will ship to the US? Thanks.
     
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  12. !<-_->!

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    I would like to know about the price details that Breakpoint has mentioned. And do you know the exact name and address of these stores with 70-80 percent discounts.
     
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  13. loubapache

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    I am not Ray Wong but I think he meant to say that they sell the Ncode at 70 - 80% of the retail price, not 70 - 80% off. The full retail price in China was a little over $200 and 70 - 80% of that was around $150.

    I went to two stores in Beijing, China last week and they both had them on sale for 1250 RMB and 1 USD is about 8.2 RMB.
     
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  14. Ray Wong

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    Breakpoint & !<-_->!,

    I'm sorry there is something make you both confused, HK$1400 is the original price, I just phone to store and they tell me the selling price is HK$950(US$120). In HK, most of stores will give offer, some of stores just list the selling price(the original price after discount), but most of stores will not ship to foreign as I know.

    !<-_->!,

    you can try this,

    Master Gear

    Unit 1301, 13/F., Richmond Plaza,
    498 Jaffe Road, Causeway Bay,
    Hong Kong

    Tel: (852) 3428 5002

    I have asked and they said they don't ship to Int'l.
     
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  15. Ray Wong

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    loubapache, thanks for your explanation, that what exactly I mean! In Chinese, 8 discount (80% discount) mean 20% off in English. Sorry for these confusion!
     
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  16. !<-_->!

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    Hey ray, that store you listed, besides the nCODE, how are their prices in general if you know? Cheaper, about the same or more compared to America? If they're cheaper, I might just have some of my relatives pick some stuff up for me.

    Thanks
     
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  17. tennisnoob

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    I might be able to work "something" out with regards to shipping, contact me at jtradical@yahoo.com.
     
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  18. Ray Wong

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    Head
    LM prestige - HK$12XX
    LM radical Tour - HK$12XX

    Babolat
    Pure Drive - HK$8XX

    Prince
    Turbo Shark - HK$980

    Yonex
    RDX500 - HK$12XX

    Volkl
    VE Tour 10 - HK$780

    all the price not the updated & it's net(after discount), just I remember. I don't want to list too much that because I'm afraid the agency will raise the price for some reason...
    I bought a Bab PD in 03 and the price was $650 and now it's more than $800.

    hope it's helpful!!!

    I ready to go to watch the exhibition match that M. Sharapova vs E. Dementieva, see you.......
     
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  19. 10sNut

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    Late Post

    I know I may be posting a little late on this one, but did anyone ever find out if TW was going to carry a few of these? IMHO frames that leave a little room for personal customizing are definitely nice.
     
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  20. finchy

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    i know alot of people here at the TW boards would LOVE if they came in, but im pretty sure TW said that they werent able to bring racquets in from asia.
     
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  21. 10sNut

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    Little question... Why not!?

    Both versions are probably made in the same factory.

    Who told the marketing geniuses at Wilson that all U.S. tennis players are 6'6" knuckle dragging gorillas?
     
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  22. 10isbum

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    Sales of NCode six-one falling in Hong Kong so recent price drop to around $115 to $120 U.S. dollars. No sales tax. Expect shipping charges by postal service to be around $10 and that is airmail to U.S. From Japan, expect to pay around $200 for total cost. Problem is grip sizes, as stores may only stock a few 4 3/8 as their biggest size. Smaller sizes more abundant.
     
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  23. thebanker

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    I have an asian ncode grip size 4 1/2 for sale if anyone is interested. 100 shipped. Email me at tmdnguyen@sbcglobal.net condition is 9/10. thx
     
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  24. BreakPoint

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    Hey jings,

    Haven't heard from you in a while. Do you have an update on your Asian nCode 90 now that you've been using it for over a month? What is your opinion of it now? How does it compare to the PS 6.0 95? If you've hit with a U.S. nCode 90, how does it compare to it? Are you still using it or have you gone back to your PS 6.0 95?

    Thanks for any additional feedback.
     
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  25. finchy

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    hello jings? I am wondering the same thing as breakpoint. if this racquet is as good as it sounds, i am definitely getting it, one way or another.
     
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  26. edd

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    Hi guys, i'm staying in spore and might be able to help you all get the asian version.
     
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  27. BreakPoint

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    edd,
    How much can you buy it for and how much is shipping to the U.S.?
    Thanks
     
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  28. 10isbum

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    My Asia Ncode 6.1 95 just arrived today from Hong Kong after being shipped on Monday, that's less than one week from HK to California. Total cost, including air mail, less than $130. Also include NCode cover and NCode vibration dampener.
     
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  29. BreakPoint

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    10isbum,
    Can you please share who or where you ordered your Asian nCode from? BTW, do you know if you can get the Asian nSix-One Tour 90 for the same price?
    Thanks
     
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  30. LordRaceR

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    btw, is there Asian version of Tour90, or that is just with nCode T90 ?
     
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  31. loubapache

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    Yes, there is an Asian version of the Tour 90. The next time I go there, I plan to pick up a couple. The interesting thing about the Asian Tour 90 is that it has "St Vincent Process" on the outside of the throat. It is lighter than the Tour 90 we see here. I do not know how it plays but I do not plan to use them anyway. I will just keep them.

    There is no Asian Tour 95 but there is a Tour 100, a bit bigger head.

    To all those who are interested in the Asian versions of this and that. You really are buying demo sticks because you do not know if you'll like them. People here want the Asian version. If you go to the Asian tennis boards, people there want the US (heavier) version. The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence, LOL.

    I believe the Asian Ncode Tour is almost 20 grams lighter and that is a lot, compared to the 340 gram US version.

    There is also an Asian version of the ROK.

    Most of these Asian versions have grip sizes up to L4 and many stores only stock up to L3.
     
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  32. paulfreda

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    My Asian n6195 is much lighter than the US version.
    I had to add quite a bit of lead tape in the throat and at 3 and 9
    to get it solid at the net. Even now on defense it doesn't have that
    little bit of pop needed on a wide ball. But it is a good frame and
    with some tweaking I might get it almost to my 6.0_95.
     
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  33. 10isbum

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    Yes, same price for the Ncode 6.1 Tour 90. A friend vacationing in HK was kind enough to stop into a tennis store and then ship back to California. The tennis store was selected based upon the recommendation of one of the local tennis players extremely knowledgeable in tennis residing in HK as most of us are aware of possible knockoffs. Depending on who buys the racket, the charge can range between $115 to $130. Shipping should be close to $10 per racket. Be aware that 4 3/8 grip size is consider large in Asia and very difficult to find larger grip sizes. There was a guy selling NCode for $85 on E-bay, also charging $30 to $35 for shipping and most of his were around 4 1/8 to 4 1/4 grip size.
     
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  34. Kam

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    Hi Tennisnoob, might I know how long the Pacific Classic Natural Gut last in the hot and humid SG? I demoed ancode90, ancode95 and ncode95 16X18 (US version) and ended up I bought the US ncode95. Would like to give Natural Gut a try if it last reasonably long. Thanks!
     
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  35. Kam

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    Hi Jings, might I also know how long your combination last in SG, Bow gut mains & Lux alu rough cross. Thanks in advance!
     
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  36. Liebestod

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    specs of Ncode 90 Asian Version

    Hi, I'm in Shanghai. Here's the specs:
    head size:90 sq. in.
    length: 27 inches
    thickness:17mm
    weight: 320g(unstrung)
    stiffness: 66
    swingweight: 325
    Balance: 9pts Head Light
    String Pattern:16*19

    also the specs of Tour90 Asian version
    head size:90 sq. in.
    length: 27 inches
    thickness:17mm
    weight: 313g(unstrung)
    stiffness: 68
    swingweight: 322
    Balance: 8pts Head Light
    String Pattern:16*19

    The actual price is about $130 for Ncode, and $110 for Tour90.
     
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  37. tennisnoob

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    It lasted me about 6 sets of play before it burst. 4 singles and 2 doubles sets.
     
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  38. edd

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    Hi BreakPoint, sorry for the late reply. Just checked out the prices here for you :
    Ncode 61,90 $130
    Tour90 $120

    Rackets will come with strings but if you want any particular brand of string and tension, i'll try to negotiate with the shop and see if he can throw in for free. Think he only have string brands like : gamma, prince, head, toalson, wilson, babolat and pacific.

    As for the shipping charges i'll check it out tomorrow.
     
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  39. Kam

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    Thank you, Tennisnoob, appreciated your quick reply. 6 sets mean I would need to string it more often than once a week. May be even twice a week, as I hit hard with lot of spin. Guess I have to stick with my poly.
     
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  41. kingofswing

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    it's very interesting , many fans in China are looking for u.s version tour 90 or ncode 90, but.....here lots of guys are talking about the Asian version of tour 90/ncode 90.
    by now, I have 2 prostaff 6.0 85, 1 head i.prestidge 93,and I bought an Asian version of Ncode 90 before the chinese new year(spring festival), overall , I found 85 is better than the newly ncode 90.
     
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  42. BreakPoint

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    kingofswing,
    May I ask why you like the PS 6.0 85 better than the Asian nCode 90? What do you like and dislike about the Asian nCode 90? As many details as possible would be appreciated. Thanks.

    BTW, have you tried the U.S. nCode 90? If so, how does it compare to the Asian nCode 90?
     
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  43. BreakPoint

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    Hmmmm....I smell a business opportunity here just brokering trades between U.S. nCodes and Tour 90s, and Asian nCodes and Tour 90s, and vise versa.
     
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  44. activentures

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    breakpoint,

    did you manage to get an asian ncode 90??

    who from and how much??
     
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  45. BreakPoint

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    msdill,
    No. I thought I was about to conclude a deal with "thebanker" to buy his but he sold it out from under me, without even telling me. :mad:
     
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  46. 10sNut

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    Model numbers?

    Does anyone happen to have the model number that the Asian retailers are using to sell both the Tour 90 and Ncode 90?

    Also, has anyone replaced the bumper/grommet strip with the strip that is available for the U.S. model?
     
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  47. BreakPoint

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  48. 10sNut

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    Thanks for the link, Breakpoint.

    Please drop me an email when you get a minute.

    Thanks.
     
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  49. hedonist

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    where did you find this piece of information? i am interested because jings guessed it about 300 (below 6.0 95 swingweight). thank you.
     
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  50. 10sNut

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    Quick question...

    Is anyone in this thread helping (or helped) TW members purchase the Asian Ncode 90 or Asian Tour 90? Are you willing to help others? Please post or email me under my User Name.
    Thanks
     
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