Need help buying a new racquet

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  1. Tenchu99

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    Guys, I need assistance choosing my next racquet, I recently purchased a Babolat Pro Drive (£190) hoping the price would reflect positively on the courts unfortunately the opposite happened.

    Currently I'm using this Wilson recreational racquet:
    http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/9019298.htm

    Crazily enough I play better with it, I've come to the conclusion it's the weightier feel of the Babolat which regresses my game.

    Where I live there isn't really a tennis centric shop where I can go to get recommendations or to demo a racquet.

    I'm leaning towards Wilson's prostaff six. One BLX (95)
    Light, a good size head the price has me leaning back though.

    If you guys can point me in the right direction I'd really appreciate that.
    If you need any other info about my game let me know.
     
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  2. Roger Wawrinka

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    Do you have an NTRP rating?
     
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  3. Tenchu99

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    No, I don't...

    I'd say I am a 4 I can't really say for sure though.
    I guess I can upload a video of me serving if that will help?
     
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  4. Lilguy1456

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    Oh boy.....if the Pure Drive was too demanding for you, I would NOT go ProStaff 95. Perhaps stick with your rec stick until you surpass what it offers you.
     
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  5. MikeHitsHard93

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    Yeah show us! :D
     
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  6. HRB

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    Demo...Demo..and oh yeah...DEMO!

    No one can tell you what to buy, figure it out like we all did...trial and error.

    If you had told me back in the day as I swung my head heavy, light, stiff oversized racquet (and developed tennis elbow) that someday I'd be comfortable in nothing less than 12oz's, nothing bigger than 100 sq head, and head light.... I'd think your crazy.

    Now my favorite is the Wilson PS Classic 6.1si and Graphite Edge!

    I still experiment, but I always seem to be the most "comfy" in the spec range above.
     
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    Thanks for the advice but demoing isn't really an option over here.
    I guess I just have to rely on the information I get from here.
     
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  9. Lilguy1456

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    Looks to be a ~4.0 serve I suppose...not sure about the rest of your game.

    But if a Pure Drive feels "weighty" to you, you need a pretty light stick. Maybe a Dunlop 500 or 600 of some kind. Even the lighter ProStaff 95 (like you suggested) will probably feel heavy to you, given your thoughts on the PD. Check out Dunlop 500 or 600tour perhaps.
     
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  10. MikeHitsHard93

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    You actually look like a decent player, and it seems like you like lighter swinging rackets that are more forgiving. The blade 104 may be up your alley, as well as the radical os
     
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  11. edman9898

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    Maybe the Wilson Pro Staff 6.1 100?
     
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  12. Relinquis

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    is it just the serve, or are other parts of your game affected by using the pure drive?

    a pure drive seems pretty light to me.
     
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    Try playing a 3 set match and ask yourself "is it light?".
     
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  14. MikeHitsHard93

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    Yes, it is indeed light.
     
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    Thanks for the recommendations, also an arm friendly racquet is a must if that is even a criteria?
    From what I read and the reviews I watched the Wilson's prostaff six. One BLX (95) met my standard i.e. light, arm friendly, good head size (bigger sweet spot) fast swinging racquet.
    It has a noticeable effect on my ground strokes maybe due to me not being able to generate a consistent good swinging motion.
     
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  16. Relinquis

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    Sorry I misread. I thought it was Pure drive, but i think he means AeroPro drive. Big difference in swing weight.

    My Wilson is leaded up to 325 grams (320 swing weight). Can play with it all day (although it's stiffness is getting to me). I did grow up playing with a 340-350 (ish) gram prince in the 90s though. I still use it regularly leaded up (335-340ish swing weight), so i suppose I'm not the best guy to judge what is considered light nowadays.
     
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  17. MikeHitsHard93

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    Pure drive takes a good bit of spin to really appreciate the racket. If you don't produce that much spin, I would look elsewhere. The prostaff 95 is very popular and probably a really good choice.
     
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  18. Relinquis

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    Is it heavy when you just hold it, or when you try to hit a forehand and are swinging it?

    I don't know what kind of Babolat you are using. Is it the AeroPro Drive, or the GT version? I think the latter has a higher swing weight, in which case it might be what is making it difficult for you.

    1. Is it this one (AeroPro Drive): http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Babolat_AeroPro_Drive/descpageRCBAB-APD13.html

    2. Or this one (AeroPro Drive GT): http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Babolat_AeroPro_Drive_GT/descpageRCBAB-BAPDGT.html

    If it is racquet no. 1, then you should be able to get used to it after a while, or maybe after a few lessons.

    the wilson you mention should be much softer on your arm and easier to swing than the GT version of the AeroPro Drive given it's lower swing weight. I would demo it first though. You don't want to spend that kind of money again without demoing it to make sure, although it should be softer on your arm than either racquet.
     
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  19. Tenchu99

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    It's the former I assume but I think it's the 2012 version? Here is a pic:
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  20. Tenchu99

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    It's definitely a noticeable difference in terms of weight compared to the rec Wilson racquet and I'd say just holding it is even troublesome for me.
     
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  21. Fuji

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    That's the cortex version, so before the GT. :)

    If that's too heavy for you, you're going to be in a bit of trouble grabbing a stick that's going to feel more comfy mate. The best I could recommend is something with a lower Swingweight, and a more Head Light balance.

    Also, it seems as though you're arming your serve a little bit, which might exaggerate the fatigue you're feeling. Just something to consider perhaps. :)

    -Fuji
     
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  22. Readers

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    Second that, esp you are playing well with a Wilson now.
     
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  23. ricki

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    Try equivalent of Babolat MagicGame (not kidding, its great, light, comfortable stick)
     
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    Don't get the PS 6.1 95. Yes it is light, but you are going to have to swing fast on EVERY shot to get any depth and that is going to wear you out over a match. Also, you want a generous sweetspot and the 95 is NOT going to have that.
     
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  25. ArliHawk

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    Volkl Organix V1 MP might be worth a try.
     
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    You pretty much described the rec Wilson racquet that I played with today, to get depth with the ground strokes you have to swing fast on every shot and yes it becomes very tiresome in the latter stages.

    To clarify are you talking about the
    Wilson pro staff 6.1 100 or the Wilson prostaff six. One BLX (95?)

    Appreciate the help guys.
     
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    Unless you can sell your current new Bab, I'd just choke up 1.5" off the buttcap for a lighter feel, easier swing.
    A former No. 4 singles from SanDiegoState does that still.
     
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    I've given up on the Babolat it frustrates me to no end, I feel like having touched it even it curses my game and I've tried hard to like it.

    People have said to me its all in my head but it's just very hit and miss.

    I just want to buy a racquet that ticks my boxes, I can play freely without having to worry that any minute now my game coming from a high will go down tremendously.
     
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    Im talking about the 95. You should try the 6.1 100 with a nice multi or syngut string. I think you will like it.
     
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  30. Relinquis

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    don't know what you're using, but i'd go for a multifilament or synthetic gut for the strings on your new racquet.

    string it at the middle tension of the racquet's range.
     
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  31. hersito

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    If you think the aero is heavy and has no power you should stay miles away from the Wilson's prostaff six. One BLX (95). I would recommend to change the strings on your aero, put a multi at around 50, you should feel a good increas in power and the frame would feel "lighter" as you wouldn't need to swing as much. by the way, how did you get to pay so much for a aero so old? did you buy it used?
     
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    I brought it last year the "Babolat aero pro drive cortex" (a few months back now) at a discounted price off £120 due to the weather in the fall season I never really got to play consistently with it.

    I was ready to buy the Wilson pro staff 6.1 100 but the reviews i've read not many but they have put doubt in my head.
    Apparently the racquet has a low power level and there are vibrations throughout the frame? Can anyone confirm this.
    I'd prefer a racquet with power not 1 where I have to generate my own power if that makes any sense.

    Sorry, I got to be picky I don't want to spend big and than get buyers remorse again.
     
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  33. MikeHitsHard93

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    The racket you have is just fine. String it differently (synthetic gut@55 would do it).
     
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  34. HRB

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    Are you out of TW or TE's range? They have a cool demo program where they send you 3 sticks and you just pay postage.

    Another way I "demo" is actually making sure I know the popularity and value of racquets, then simply buying them at a bargain when I find deals on the "bay" and then re-selling the ones I don't ,usually breaking even or making a few bucks.

    It's a hobby I call "stick flipping"...in fact I just tried the beloved Radical Tour "Bumble Bee" because I found it at a steal price of $40...ended up hating it and "flipped it for $70!

    Good luck!
     
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  35. Jay_The_Nomad

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    I would say stick with your current racquet but then I saw the description which says its an aluminium frame! Bone shaker. I've played with some cheap Walmart aluminium frames before and didn't like it especially in heavy balls. Really gave me dull arm aches.

    If u stick with your current Wilson, consider changing the strings to a soft multifilament for your arm health. It'll give u some power.

    As for choosing a new racquet, the aeropro drive comes in lighter versions if I'm not mistaken. But honestly the weight should not be a problem for you.mand having some heft to your racquets is always a good thing. So maybe you might want to have a look at your strokes? Try going for fuller swings rather than arming it?
     
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  38. Brian72

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    Not trying to be critical here. I would invest that money in some lessons instead of a new racquet. Also, go on TW's forsale board for Europe and consider a used racquet.

    Is it just me or are you using a semi-western forehand grip for your serve. That right there tells me you maybe should consider lessons. I don't know anyone who plays 4.0 NTRP that uses that grip to serve.
     
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    If you don't know the frame already check out info on these boards re the Juice 100. Excellent frame IMO that has some similarities to PD and APD but a certain modern Wilson feel about it. Very light stock. Very easy swinging. Great pop. Good spin. Not too bad control. Serves very well.

    BTW £190 is a lot to paying for a PD. If you're on FB, you should join the UK Racketaholics group. Quite a lot of selling goes on there and at much better prices than that.
     
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  40. Anton

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    It's not the racket, it's you.

    Having said that, out of modern spin rackets Mantis 285 will let you be you ;) And when you are ready for more you can add lead to it.

    I have ~25 grams of lead on mine, 15 on handle, 10 on top of the loop and I'm pretty sure it's very close to what nadal uses, but even if it isn't, I play some crazy western spin game with it
     
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    "It's not the racquet it's me?" How did you come to that conclusion.

    I think I'm in a better position to judge seeing how I actually play with the racquet and I would know my strengths...
     
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    Lessons, hmm I appreciate the advice but I've never had a lesson in my life in tennis and I'm fine against club players maybe I'll consider it if I feel like someone can improve me.
     
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    It is your tennis game after all :) If you're happy with the way you play more power to you. I use to be proud of the fact that I was a self made tennis player. And lessons have helped me tremendously. Even if it's going online to see how other successful tennis players get it done.

    No offense was intended. It's just that it's typically the Indian and not the Arrow. If you're playing with a cheap frame, chances are it's not all that powerful. So you can get away with poor mechanics and still hit the ball in. The Aero Pro Drive, a racquet I've played with, has some pop to it, and if your not hitting with good mechanics the ball will sail long.

    Take it for what's it's worth to you.
     
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  44. Tenchu99

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    No offense taken I'm open to suggestions, if I was a rec/beginner player than I'd take your advice but that's not really the case I'd just prefer a lighter racquet, I feel more at ease...

    I've narrowed it down to these 4:
    Wilson juice 100 BLX
    Wilson two BLX
    Wilson pro staff 6.1 100.
    Wilson BLX blade 104
     
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  45. Brian72

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    Awesome! Hope you find the best racquet for you :)
     
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    These are my top 10 arm friendly racquets.

    Babolat New Pure Storm-LTD GT (95)
    DUNLOP Biomimetic Max 200G
    Dunlop Biomimetic 200 (95)
    HEAD-Youtek-IG-Prestige-MP
    Prince EXO3 Rebel (95)
    Prince EXO3 Tour (100) 16 x 18
    Volkl Power Bridge-10 Mid (93)
    Volkl Organix 10 325G
    Wilson Prostaff Six.One BLX (95)
    Yonex Vcore 95D
     
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  47. Brian72

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    Those are all awesome racquets and arm friendly. However, they are all more than 11.5 oz strung.

    The Volkl Organix 7 or Volkl Organix V1 are both arm friendly, performance sticks that are in the weight category the OP is looking for.
     
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