Need help with Russian made racquet

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  1. WARPWOODIE

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    I found a racquet today which I need help identifying and for specs.
    On the racquet/loop are these characters:
    nporpeec
    On the mono neck:
    rnabcnoptnpom
    Anyone familiar with this racquet?
    No strings on it and am wondering if there are shared holes for stringing?
    Thanks in advance for any information!
     
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  2. PhotoBlue

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    Does it look more like "прогреес" and "гпавспортпром"?
     
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  3. WARPWOODIE

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    Yes. It is aqua green in color with tear drop shaped head.
     
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  4. Kalin

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    Well, "прогреcс" means 'Progress' and it must be the racquet's name while "гпавспортпром" (Glavsportprom) is a typical Russian-language monstrosity of an abbreviation meaning 'Main (or Central) Sports Enterprise' so it is the maker's name.

    I'm not sure if this helps at all :(
     
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  5. WARPWOODIE

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    Thanks Kalin! Any information is helpful. Anyway, I was checking around and found "80's tennis racquets"...basically, the racquet is very similar to the Fisher SuperForms and Kneissel Red Star. It appears that they have shared holes for stringing. It is in mint condition and was never strung. When I asked the lady at the Goodwill if she could give me discount because it lacked strings, she agreed and sold it to me for $3.00:) It would be interesting to know the relative value of it now...being that this is an 80's racquet, the latter part of the cold war era.
     
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  7. WARPWOODIE

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    Thanks again! Yea, the first link is the racquet I have. It seems to be a midsize head. Will string tonight...should be fun to hit with. BTW, also with the purchase came the head cover...also plastered in Russian:?
     
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    I believe it was licensed from Kneissl. The first graphite/fiberglass composite racquet made in USSR. It was quite challenging to play with, like with any mono I suppose.
     
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    There were three types of racquets produced in former Soviet Union under Kneissl license: Master (White Star Pro), Progress (Blue Star Mid) and Gigant
    (Red Star Big). First they looked like real Kneissl with its original brand name written on, later the quality got down and the racquets got russian names. They were very popular back then because you couldn't afford good quality tennis racquet in the USSR (except somebody brought it from abroad).
    I have some of these racquets, will share the pictures next week.
     
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    First covers were Kneissl original, then there were soviet-made covers from factory in Kiev, Ukraine.
     
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  11. Love50

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    Speaking of Russian racquets... does anyone know anything about a racquet made by Xokken (I believe that is "hockey" in Russian with the proper Cyrillic spelling). Looks like a Wilson Profile clone.
     
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    Hockey in russian will be Хоккей.
    Can you post the picture please?
     
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    There is an " Experimental Factory "Hockey" in Moscow, which produced mostly hockey sticks and some tennis racquets.
     
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    Thanks for the translation!

    I would agree with you about the playability :) The construction looks cheap and I didn't like how it swings. If any collector wants it for free (so that they can say they have a Russian racquet), drop me a note.

    Not sure why I bought it, must have been to take advantage of bundled shipping from Europe...

    The racquet at the top is a MAG-I T201 from Tremont Research out of Chicago. It's a composite sandwich racquet similar to the Head stuff that Arthur Ashe used.
     
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  17. Kalin

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    I like the colour of the Composite model, though! Seems like a nice paintjob. We need more olive-green racquets
     
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    Never heard about this racquet company. Was it a small one?
     
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    I think they used the paint that was at the factory at that moment.

    We have a lot of different composite soviet/russian-built racquets here in Moscow, but the real good were only that licenced Kneissls.
    Progress and Giant are quite common, the rarest one is Master.
     
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    The typical price for it here in Moscow is about $10-17.
    The racquets were produced in 1989-92 as i remember.
    During the production time the quality decreased, so the best were made in 1989-90.
     
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    Thanks! I strung up the racquet last night with MSV Hex (mains) and Wilson Sensation (crosses) at a really low tension of 35/40 for fear that it might collapse on me, but she held up and I think it can go even tighter. The stringbed got tighter as the crosses were applied. I also put on a white overgrip tape on top of the nice leather underneath and she looks good to go. I'm really looking forward to putting her through the paces.:) For a novelty item (cold war era racquet), I'd guess it could possibly fetch $30-$40 here in the US??
     
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    I'm not good with colors...so I had my daughter look at it. She describes it as teal green. It is a nice shade of green.:)
     
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    You have later version, first were in Kneissl original navy blue.
     
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    I know some people who still playing with these racquets, it's not easy but if you have good old-school technique you will like it. Give it a try.
     
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    Yea, I'm old school and love old wooden tennis racquets, even the warped one, hence my screen handle.:grin:
     
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    Somebody needs to start a russian thread where us Russians can unite :) :)
     
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    Old Kneissl racquets are very good in playbility, now you can try use yours.
     
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    Before i only read the forum posts, now i'm registrated here so if you need some information about russian-made stuff i'm at your service.
     
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  31. BorgCash

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    I also started with one russian-made woodie Moscow (Москва), it was a copy of Wilson or Dunlop.
     
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    Guys, i'm russian russian, live in Moscow, Russia, 16-million mtgapolis.
     
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  33. PhotoBlue

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    I live in America but can speak, read, and write in russian pretty well.
     
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    I'm not russian though I'm American.
     
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    Nice to hear, приятно слышать, можете писать по-русски.
     
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  36. PhotoBlue

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    приятно видеть, что кто-то из России здесь!
     
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    Спасибо, Вы прекрасно общаетесь по-русски!
    Где так выучили?
     
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    Различные книги и другие компьютерные программы. Игра в теннис дает мне много воздействием русских, поэтому я могу говорить на нем довольно часто.
     
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    Здорово!
    Играете в теннис с русскими, живущими в Америке?
     
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  40. PhotoBlue

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    Да, да. Вы откуда? Москва?
     
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  41. BorgCash

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    Да, из Москвы. Играю с 1986 года (начинал в 1982, но деревянными ракетками плохо получалось). В Америке не был, хочу попасть когда- нибудь на US Open.
    Люблю теннис 80-х годов и собираю старые ракетки.
    Алексей.
     
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    Здорово! Я не такой старый haha, так что я действительно не поклонник старой ракетки. Они немного скучно.

    English Russian mix there with "haha" lol. For anyone who doesn't know russian we've been talking about Russian and tennis and stuff...
     
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  43. BorgCash

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    In Russian ha-ha will be ха-ха.
    Будем общаться, спасибо.
    Я еще могу на лыжах (cross-country ski) пробежать 50 км (not so old).
     
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