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  1. drakulie

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    It's a shame the FH at 9 seconds falls just out of the frame!
     
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  3. Doc Hollidae

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    "Com' mon!!!"
     
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    will look at when i get home
     
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    I don't think it is Drak, I think it's someone who was playing in the 45's tournament next to his home, The forehand (even from the like 1/3 of the guy we CAN see :p) looks completely different to what I remember Drak's to be. Also the guys in modern Adidas isn't that sacreligious for Drak, If it was him he'd be in some vintage Sampras kit! :)
     
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  8. drakulie

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    What are you guys talking about?? This is a buddy of mine. he asked me to post and ask for advice.
     
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  10. JCo872

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    Hard to say from such a short clip, but I didn't see any full stroking. Just stabs at the ball.
     
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    Can't really see the forehand, but I'd say he is a 3.0. His forehand didn't look like he really swung through it, you could pretty much say that for all his shots...
     
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    he uses conti FH?
     
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  14. Bundey

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    What level of play was this?
     
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    4.0-5.5 from what drak said in his other thread
     
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    if you watch the other videos its clear they gotta be at least 4.5's
     
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  17. Bundey

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    Yeah, I was way off base. I looked at the other ones and see they are 4.5. But based on this video I thought he was a 3.0.
     
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    based on one point:

    he needs to stay down thru his slice backhand, he lifted up head and all and no doubt that is why it was a shortball that his opponent came in off of. Lucky he flicked a stabby forehand pass.
     
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    I thought I was watching Nadal with that serve return footwork lol
     
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    He just needs to work on his fist pump :) The rest of his game is pretty good.
     
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    Thats what I was thinking. Then the lateral movement reminded me of Laver how he just like of let his arms hang
     
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  22. Doc Hollidae

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    He slaps his forehand. It's not a swing, it's a wrist snap. Prolly not a topspin type player, so a nice smooth flat stroke would prolly do him wonders.

    A second option (I don't know how well this would work on clay, I only play on hard courts) might be to become a spin doctor. I played a 63 year old man in a tournament who hit inside out slice. He would mix that with normal slice to go down the lines or to drive the ball, but I never got the same depth or pace twice. Killer opponent to play against if the person is patient enough to do it, but I had to hand it to that guy, he knew how to play and made the most of what he had. However on clay, I don't know how well that would work. On fast surfaces it works fine since almost all players are now baseliners.
     
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    Yeah Drakulie, have your fun ... :p.
    To the guys who stated "3.0"... just a couple of words...I have a feeling that you need to reconsider your positions ... pretty quickly...unless you LOVE talking out of your arse ;).

    Edited out the reasons WHY I think this to be the case...Drakulie needs some more answers before the killer blow :p
     
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    From what I've seen (a little) forehand swing is non-existent, there is not use of body and shoulder, wrist not laid back, and particularly no extension through the ball. A little bit better the backhand.
     
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  25. Mike Cottrill

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    Interesting that you said “spin doctor”, he plays with more types of spin than I have seen before and can use his wrist too as you noticed. Don’t be fooled, he can hit a drive. Has one of the nastiest twist serves around. Fast courts, yep grass
     
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  26. Mike Cottrill

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    Drake,
    I wondered if you would do this hehehe :lol: . He is 3.5 max, I mean TW folks can beat him in flip flops with socks over them hehehehe.

    That video only shows his good stuff :oops:
     
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    My advice is to quit trying to "trap" people into criticising players who happen to be good but who don't have nice-looking strokes.
     
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    Haha, Drakulie trolling the "he's a 3.5" crowd. It would have been amusing had no one mentioned the other thread.
     
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    I think he's an excellent ping pong player!
     
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    too short to see much. looked like he did not go for much and was going to let his opponent make the mistake. liked the fist pump! haha.
     
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  31. drakulie

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    Did it occur to anyone that the reason he is blocking the serve return is because the serve was coming too fast? Not much time for a wind-up.
     
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  32. Bundey

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    How do you explain the backhand? :confused:
     
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    ^^^ drop shot??
     
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  34. Bundey

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    Oh, I couldn't tell what that was, or where it even landed. Was it a good drop shot? It seems like anybody could have gotten to it easily.
     
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    Ok. Since some people opened there big mouths earlier in this thread I'll give everyone the inside scoop.

    The guy on this vid is Val Wilder. He is the number 1 player in the US in the 45's. He is easily a 6.0 player, however the USTA has him rated 5.5. Take the rating with a grain of salt because at this level ratings from the USTA don't mean much.

    The guy serving in this vid was hitting upwards of 120+ with nasty spin, which is why Val blocked it back. He then hit a drop shot (crazy good) to bring his opponent to net and then passsed him with a FH winner.

    Here is another crazy drop shot from this guy. Also has a nasty kicker.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHFMpmgxUQE

    I video taped this match yesterday. I have been attending the USTA 45's Clay court championships this week. There are actually a few ex-pros playing this tournament. There is a thread in the Adult league section of the boards if you want to see pics and vids of the matches.

    The semis are tomorrow.
     
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  36. Bundey

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    Okay, I don't understand why you do this. It seems like you want it. You are always posting threads of a really great player, and asking to critique, then when they give a critique of of a 7 second video, were you can't even see the best shot you accuse them of having a big mouth. Nice one...
     
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  37. Bundey

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    My thoughts exactly, I don't know why he does this, just a waste of time.
     
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    ^^^ Relax. :) take it easy.
     
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    Nice job on the split step....work on hitting through the ball more on the forehand. Extend your hitting arm farther out more before comming accross your body.
     
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  40. Bundey

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    Dude, the thread is over, lol. ;)
     
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    Could you explain what you mean by extending out more??

    Thanks!
     
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  42. Mike Cottrill

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    Trade mark Val. Spin Spin keep you off balance. You may get to the drop shot and may even when that point. However you will be tired at the end of that point. Lose a little on the serve and bang, you lose the next four points.
     
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    I'm sorry I missed out on this one. As soon as I saw the video, I knew this was going to be fun...

    (Oh well... too bad the joke is up.)
     
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  45. Mike Cottrill

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    Why did you come in on a second serve :eek: ? The returner was going to play aggressive and attack the second (could tell by were he was standing).
     
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    ^^OK. So I shouldn't come in on the second serve if my opponent is playing to his FH side??? :)
     
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  47. Bundey

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    I'm no serve and vollier, but you don't need to come in on a medium paced topspin second serve like that.

    BTW how many people started in the tournament, and how many are there now?
     
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    ^^^ 128 started. Only 4 remain. The # 1, 2, 4, and 5 seeds.
     
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  49. Mike Cottrill

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    Serve down the middle if you wanted to come in this case. Thake the angle away and make him move.
     
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  50. drakulie

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    ^OK. I will try that. How about on the deuce side?
     
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