Discussion in 'Racquets' started by whoopinstick, Nov 2, 2011.
Same here I wish someone who did get one would do a review so I can live vicariously through them
I got the 98T. Will post pictures and reviews over the week end..
Is it me...or did the Black Racquet thread vanish? :0
I started up a Black Racquet thread which seems to have mysteriously *poofed*...
maybe it was deleted because of the mention of a competitor in the OP? oh well, i'll just make a new thread after i get mine and hit with it.
But Tennis Warehouse is shipping prototypes to people too! ( ﾟヮﾟ)
Hmm I never heard tw as one of their distributors for racquet shipment. It seems that these protos are shipped from TE MW sports and Hbird
Two words: Lead Tape.
I've heard people's prototypes are breaking apart...and the manufacturing quality isn't that great....
i've read one report on their facebook that the racket cracked near the handle and that another one came looking a little unfinished (grommet holes unclean, imperfections, etc.) but other than that nothing, so hopefully it's just a few isolated incidents. though these rackets are prototypes to they probably aren't up to the best quality yet.
I mean it's a FREE test racquet. My expectations are relatively low.
I'm sure there quality control isn't there but how does it play well before it breaks or does it all together suck?
i should be getting mine on wednesday, so i probably won't be able to test until sunday because of school and work. i might be able to on thursday if i get it strung early on wednesday.
i'm not expecting it to be perfect, but hopefully it won't break on me.
Sadly I have yet to be chosen for the Black Racquet playtest.
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What happens if you scan the QR code?
the buttcap and the throat both have the QR code, I didn't scan it. I will have to get back to you, just dropped it off at my stringer and in the next couple of days I should get it back.
got the black 98t in yesterday. eh.... looks like someone spray painted it black lol. I'm not even gonna bother stringing it. and that big huge url on the side of the racket blows. I'm not bringing a racket with a big giant ad on the frame to the court.
All racquets have ads or branding on them. No company is going to produce a racquet without any branding on it. If you are not going to use the racquet then send it back.
It has "www.blackraquet.com" on an otherwise black frame.
It is a frame test and not to advertise a website or brand.
Why do you care anyways? Maybe you wouldn't mind but its lame and cheap marketing. My opinion is that its cheap and I will tell them. That's my feedback which they asked for.
I guess I can black sharpy out the advertising. Or use black spray paint like they used on the racket lol. Either way I can afford to buy my rackets so I don't care about a random black racket. I am interested in how it plays but the poor build quality along with the paint job with the big giant website address does not make me run off and have the racket strung.
You call it "lame and cheap" marketing" but you singed up for it. I guess you thought you were going to receive a finished product but just with a completely black paint scheme. They want feedback on how the racquet plays not how you are unimpressed with the cosmetics and marketing of a completely free to keep prototype.
... I in no way expected a "finished product". I expected a frame test. I signed up for it because I love tennis. and trying new things. I don't like playing with a racket that has an obvious ad on it. How about you get a big "Geico" auto insurance sticker, paint your racket black and slap that on it? then play with it? And lend it to your friends to try?
If they wanted a play test and not advertising then there is no need to have advertising on the frame. If it is performance they are after there is NO reason to put a big ad on it. If they are after viral marketing and word of mouth the best way is to keep ALL branding off of it right now. Let the product performance speak for itself. they asked for "play testers" Which I fit some specific demographic they had in mind. They didn't ask for a walking bill board. Please... Just because it's a free racket doesn't mean I am obligated to be an ad for them. If I like a racket I just buy it.
Again... Why do you care? If you care so much you play with it. Ill ship it to you. But I will slap the name of my company on the other side of the racket.
This is a fair deal for whoever wants to test this stick out
What's the grip size? If it's a 4 or 5 I'll even paypal you the shipping. What is your company that I'll be advertising?
Heeey...I'm willing to check out that racquet...
Why bother with these racquets? Is it really possible they can make a racquet better than a company with decades of experience and advances in racquet evolution?
why dont you just duct tape that part
for me it isnt that noticeable unless someone was holding the racquet; I usually play with brands down to the ground anyway
It's size L3. My offer was to SF because he was giving me grief about it. I would put "www.arche3rules.com" on the other side. Lol.
Which he should. I also vote that it's pretty lame to sign up to test it and then not just because it has the company URL on it. It's really not that different than just having the company name on the racquet, which we all have. I've seen the pictures of the racquet on their facebook page and don't feel they have overstepped.
It's possible it's the brainspawn of someone who used to work in the industry, and knows the process fairly well already - instead of some rookie who is taking a first leap in. Sometimes 'older' companies are resistant to change, maybe the creator thinks he/she has something out of the box. I certainly don't have enough information to tell. It's usually not the case that a new company breaks new ground, but then again all the experience can serve to constrain thoughts & new designs.
So yes, I'd argue it is 'possible' - albeit unlikely, that they will break the mold (so to speak). Isn't this racquets claim to fame supposed to be that it is more aerodynamic or something like that? Seems a bit far-fetched to me, but what do I know.
So go play with it then. No one is telling you not to. But its your opinion I should . It's not a matter I care about either way. I didn't like the ad so I am not bothering to:
1) bring it to the Stringer.
2) pay the guy 50 bucks to put my strings on it.
The company has every right to put whatever they want on it. I have every right to not use it. They have not over stepped their bounds at all. I just don't want to be their ad.
I have an unstrung apdgt in my house as well right now.
My first review. The black racket does not swing any faster or easier than the apdgt. Both unstrung. The sound is a lil different through the air. They both have similar profile and edges.
How does having "BlackRacquet.com" on a racquet make it an "obvious ad" and unacceptable while an AeroPro with Babolat plastered all over it is acceptable? This does not make sense. My PDRGT has Babolat labeled on it 5 times with two of those some 4 inches in length and one being about 7 inches. Is it because of the .com?
(Source: Steve Boening via facebook)
That is where we disagree. They didn't send you the racquet for free. They sent you the racquet in EXCHANGE for your opinion on how it feels and plays. They lived up to their end of the bargain and you haven't.
I suppose you have the right not to use it, but we also have the right to call you out on it.
It's like Tennis Warehouse sending you strings to test because you signed up for it and not actually testing out the string.
And not testing it for some reason like "the string is blue and that clashes with my racquet. Sorry Tennis Warehouse".
Just got a call from my stringer tonight, i'll go pick it up tomorrow and see how they hit
Bargain.... Lol. It's was not a deal. I didn't sign anything. I am not obligated more than my opinion on the racket. And calling me out is not really a big deal. I like arguing on here.
I already filled out their questionare and told them how I felt.
The intent of my participation was to play test. I did not agree to a banner ad on the side of the racket.
And yes url's are usually considered banner ads and brand names are used to identify the manufacture.
I guess really not that big a deal. I just didn't like it enough to spend the time dropping it off and 50 bucks to string it. I would string a vs/ rpm hybrid.
Wow a whole set of strings? That must be a huge breach of contract... Let me call my attorney. That's funny.
The entirety of most racquets these days are marketing. Your AeroPro Drive is predominantly yellow. A yellow Babolat racquet = AeroPro Drive. Brand names etc are usually predominantly placed on a product for brand recognition. And BlackRacquet is the manufacturer, the brand, product and their website name.
I think they said something about excluding people who sign up for testing but don't actually test from future tests. Unless that's a lie or something...
I have tested strings from tw. And wrote them my reviews as directed. So I don't think my tt username is banned.
Ok your right... I'm having the racket repainted with bigger brand name and stringing it today. And then I will wear their t shirt and camp out on my country club courts all day and preach about it. Maybe ill get another free racket out of it.
We were discussing this in the context of the previously stated hypothetical situation where you received the strings and did not test it due to whatever extraneous reason.
The "Twilight Zone" thread....
lol. just the usual TT banter.
anyone get a 98T yet? i only see the specs that DUO posted showing the 98 -- 10.6 ounces unstrung and 7 pts HL unstrung balance.
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