***new Forehand Video*** 3/6/08

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  1. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    PLEASE READ BEFORE YOU CLICK THE LINKS!!!


    Here is some information so people won't ask later:

    Ken; lefty; 15 years old, "started tennis" January 2007. (Started playing SERIOUSLY since May 2007 so not quite a year yet.


    KFactor K6.1 TEAM @ 55 lbs with Prince Tournament Poly, I believe I use a semi-western grip but I'm not sure, and I self-rate myself a high 3.0. :oops:

    PS: Don't judge ENTIRELY From this one video as it is a short collection and does not show my full potential, albeit close to this xP We had more footage but the guy who took the video couldn't send me the other videos for some strange reason. I will get more footage soon

    OLD VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xcW-aE_m0E

    NEW VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqbhLt43Xos

    ONLY SHOT THAT WAS OUT WAS AT 0:45-0:50 , when afterwards I mumbled "Ohhh Shhieett"

    Enjoy and please comment/rate/feedback on this forum as well as youtube if you like.
     
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  2. ogruskie

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    Jesus Christ! You're pretty damn good considering you've been playing for barely a year! I've been playing for around 4 years and I'm just barely at your level. Keep up the good work man...
     
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  3. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    Now that I look at it, these forehands are pretty lousy compared to my usual ones. Oh well no excuses/complaints. I will upload a new video soon with my groundies and serves and then you can see how I really play. Thanks for the response.

    EDIT: OH yeah, We got more footage but my friend (Daniel) had a hard time uploading them on sendspace & sending them to my email and this is the only footage I got, but I got some serves filmed, playing out the points, as well as my backhand. (1h) that I will upload whenever I get the vids on my computer.
     
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  4. mmeyer1

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    nice forehands man i started late as well May 05 at 19, but I wish I could hit a forehand like you. Do you take lessons or anything?
     
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  5. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    No, I do not take lessons.

    I cannot afford them sadly.
     
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  6. daku10

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    i like your finish...just wondering which grip you use...also your stance seems to be primarily open...do you think it gives you more power in your shots?
     
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  7. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    I believe (and have been told) I use a semi-western. I get more control from closed stance, and alot more power open stance
     
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  8. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    Yeah; I just checked on a website with a grip chart thing, im pretty sure i'm using a Semi-western now.
     
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  9. TonLars

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    Looks like you hit the ball real well, especially if you truly only started playing a year ago! Nice work. I dont see how you can actually be "3.0", although we dont have a lot to see. Forehand is good
     
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  10. quicken

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    ... seriously?
    6 months?
    with out private coaching?
    ...............................
    we have next federer right here.
     
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  11. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    I don't REALLY Know the NRTP or NTRP whatever ratings are, I posted a video 6 months back ago and that is what he rated me so I am not sure what I am rated now.

    And yes, I picked up my first wal-mart racket January 2007, but I started playing seriously in May 2007 after my friend sold me a Babolat Drive Z Tour and he said I had potential to get better so I started trying.
     
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  12. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    OH yeah, 9-10 months of SERIOUS tennis, 13 months of when i first picked up my first wal-mart racket for clarification
     
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  13. Djokovicfan4life

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    *Has horrible memories of the "This kid could be the next Federer" thread*
     
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  14. VGP

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    Keep your left elbow closer to your body. It'll help on quicker exchanges and serve returns......
     
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  15. quicken

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    LOL i remember the thread hahahahaha
     
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  16. thejackal

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    nice swing. dont think too much about the technique of the shot anymore and focus more on consistancy and placement. its like riding a bike - you can balance now, so just practice riding it to different places.
     
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  17. Bungalo Bill

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    A year? Highly doubt it.
     
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  18. Nellie

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    You need more of a weights shift from left to right if you are going to hit that open stance forehand. You notice that on many of your shots, you are hopping on your left leg before and after the shot. Without the wieght shift, you will only be arming the ball.
     
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  19. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    I knew there would be a doubter, but i'm not going to bother explaining since I posted a video 6 months ago and people didn't believe me then when I said I had been playing for about 3-4 months. I'll let you believe what you want.
     
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  20. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    Oh by the way Bungalo Bill, it doesn't matter that you don't believe me, all I asked for was critiques and advice and thats all you should be worrying about right?
     
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  21. Essential Tennis

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    Looks really good man, you're well ahead of most people. Your racket path is great, you're nice and relaxed. I feel like you could be rotating your core a little more effectively through/past contact to gain some more strength.....other than that not a lot to say technique wise without watching where the ball goes and how you use the stroke in points.

    I have no agree less than a year is awefully hard to believe, heh. I'm not calling you a liar, but I teach people all day long that have tried their whole lives and will probably never have as nice a forehand as you do. Not sure if I buy that you can't afford lessons either, since you have several new rackets and new clothes and shoes ;)

    Either way, keep up the good work man
     
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  22. mdjenders

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    nice racquet head speed. maybe next time set up the camera behind you or at the opposite end so we can see depth and kick.
     
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  23. Hewitt Aussie

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    Hey, you look great mate. BTW, i go to The Woodlands High School, i think we played you guys a couple times last year. But, yeah that skill for 1 year is impressive. A match between us would be interesting.:)
     
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  24. Hewitt Aussie

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    Also, i will be receiving my digital camera this week, so maybe in the next 2 weeks i will be able to post a video of myself playing.
     
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  25. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    At the racket club near my house (copperfield), lessons are $225 per month, and my dad will NOT pay for that.
     
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  26. mrcalon

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    Batman - nice work. What resources have you utilized to learn the game?

    I believe it's possible to get strokes like that in a year. I've actually seen a friend of mine learn strokes like yours after two weeks.
    He was vacationing with some friends who were top USTA juniors at the time (top 50 in age group) and they spent a couple hours teaching him basics. He was hitting just like you when he came back. However since it wasn't formal training he didn't really learn anything else (ie - serve was very disproportionate to ground skills, footwork not that great). He was also a bit older than you (mid 20's) when he learned the game.
     
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  27. user92626

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    Gee,
    You're good. I like your fh stroke. It looks interesting to me but I myself would not be aspired to learn that style -- well, I'm new and it looks overcomplexing to me :) You flap your arm too much and too fast for me. As a result the racquet turns end to end way too fast. I do not know if this will promote better control. Also, I could only do what you do (the flapping through the entire arm) with some wrist action which hurts me bad.

    What do the teaching pro's in here say?
     
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  28. hyogen

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    not bad at all.. i would say 3.5. like the other guys are saying, put more weight in your shots. move into the court more. take a lot more little tiny adjustment steps. you're young, you have no excuse to have lazy feet whatsoever :)

    by the way, how did you edit the 2nd video with the slow mo replays?
     
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  29. Essential Tennis

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    Then if it's important to you, go get a job. If you go work at McDonalds for minimum wage, you can afford that while working 10 hours a week. I'm pretty sure you can swing that. Get'r done
     
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  30. Djokovicfan4life

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    I second this, I'm only working about 14 hours a week and I'm closing in on a ball machine!

    It builds up fast. :)
     
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  31. Bungalo Bill

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    That is fine with me. No comments coming. Still though, you have been playing more then a year pal.
     
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  32. dozu

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    a year, yeah right

    I actually found this quite common among youngsters to lie about how long they have been playing a certain sport, just to get a 'wow' factor'... I have seen it in person, in tennis players and golfers.

    Kid, it's ok to be who you are, there is no need to wow people to compensate your lack of confidence.

    You may not understand it right now, but in 20 years, you will
     
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  33. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    ANY FURTHER DOUBTERS READ THIS BECAUSE I AM TIRED OF PEOPLE THINKING IM LYING.

    When it comes down to it, im pretty sure people think i'm lying because MY forehand looks better then theirs when it was their first year playing. IF that's the case, drop the ego and drop some critiques.

    Lack of confidence? "Wow factor"? Are you joking? I am probably one of the more "head-strong" guys on my team due to the fact that I used to be made fun of all the time because I sucked ass. I started tennis January 1st in SCHOOL for a half-credit class because I needed a athletic course to fill in second semester. Tennis was looked upon by the stereotypical "sissy easy sport" so I took it in, my friends Tim & Jason made fun of me even though they weren't so great so I started practicing with no help. That's when my friend Grant sold me a babolat for 80 dollars in MAY 2007, and that started my workout routine to get better.

    ALL OF THESE DAYS ARE SOLO's except Saturday!

    Sunday - Rest time
    Monday - Forehand
    Tuesday - Volleys
    Wednesday - Backhands
    Thursday - Volleys
    Friday - Footwork / Speed
    Saturday - Match play

    The only "Training" I have ever recieved was a 2 hour hitting session with a college player. and even then he was a hitting partner, not giving me drills or any tips besides "Keep your head on the ball".
     
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  34. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    I am constantly moving, taking little steps to the ball, on my toes... so I don't know how you can classify me as lazy, but.

    Go download Windows Movie Maker off the internet somewhere, then you edit your clip in there by means of drag and drop sort of, theres a tutorial so it will be easy for you and and there is a Slow Down 1/2 Speed function.
     
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  35. doublefault2008

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    your strokes looks good for just playing under a year. Now lets see some serves and backhands. As for the doubter, just ignore, they are just probably jealous that a hs kid is better then them.
     
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  36. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    Yeah, my friend Daniel who took the videos, is having problems sending them to MY computer so I can upload them. I have 3 videos. 2 forehand and backhand videos, and 1 serve video, I only recieved a SHORT 1 min clip so far and that is THIS video. I will get my backhand/serve and match play videos up sometime this week for sure. As for:

    I think this is what it MOSTLY is, but then again, if I was one of you guys and saw this video, I would probably doubt 1 year as well, but it's just I have improved rapidly. So I guess it's not the doubters' ENTIRE fault they think im lying.
     
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  37. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    The #1 at your school is one crazy B#$%! His name is Eddie correct?
     
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  38. Azzurri

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    serioualy, what do you expect? You even made the point in your initial post about how long you have played. You obviously knew people would not believe you had been playing less than a year, let alone a few months.

    First off, if you are a natural athlete (a darn good one), its not hard to imagine getting to your level as quickly as you did. Maybe you were born with the ability to play tennis. Just think if you were playing since age six?
    If you indeed have been playing for only 1 year, get lessons. You obviously have quite a bit of talent. You won't get anywhere near your ability w/out tutoring. If anything, ask someone in the tennis community (a coach or instructor) to take a look at you and make an assessment. If they believe you to have a great talent, then its something you and your parents need to discuss. You may end up getting a scholarship..well worth the $225 month.

    My take, you are too defensive, always a sign..but that is me.
     
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  39. itsstephenyo

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    You know what? Who cares if people on the internet call you a liar? You will never ever meet these people in your life. So what does it matter to you? Personally, I believe you. I've had people call me a liar to my face about how long I've played. Just shrug it off and keep playing.
     
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  40. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    Yeah, i'm just going to ignore it from now on. I added my biography in my initial post so people wouldn't have questions later and stuff like that, but I guess putting it in the post was "being defensive" (?) According to slappano.

    I do work, I am a receptionist @ Sports Clips (hair-salon place) and I get 7 an hour. (My mom is the boss so I can work @ 15 years old lol) and I am saving up for summer lessons @ the local Racquet & Health Club. Although it's $225+++ a month, I think I can afford it if I keep on working until the summer comes.
     
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  41. Bungalo Bill

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    Well I think the OP has found one gullible person in the place.
     
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  42. Bungalo Bill

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    Yeah, it is also called lying.

    LOL, this just keeps getting better.
     
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  43. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    We all know you think I am lying Bungalo Bill, you can drop it.
     
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    Sounds like a good idea, Batman. If you're getting serious, lessons would be a really good idea. For me, I don't care really. I play for fun with some friends and play matches once in a great while. I've got my ball machine if I wanna re-work some stuff, but I'd rather not put out extra money for a teaching pro to tell me to keep my eye on the ball.
     
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  45. Bungalo Bill

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    Why? This is actually humorous.

    Just think, in a matter of a couple days you went from a nobody to one of the funnier comedians on this board. Now, that is pretty impressive. If tennis took you a year and your comedian work took you a couple days, I say go comedian! :twisted:
     
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  46. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    Why am I humorous to you?

    Wait, here's a better question:

    Do you seriously think I'm lying, or are you being a troll? Because quite frankly, I don't think you really think i'm lying.
     
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  47. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    Whoa, you know what I just noticed?

    The title of my thread says 3/6/08 instead of 3/16/08.

    ._.
     
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  48. Bungalo Bill

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    Actually I do think you are lying. However, I do find this humorous. I also enjoy the people you suck into this mess of yours.
     
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  49. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    Why is it that you think i'm lying? Just curious. I would like to hear your logic to this.
     
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  50. SFrazeur

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    DO NOT FEED THE BUNGALO BILL!!!

    "Batman!" Ignore him, he will tear anyone down for his own satisfaction. If he was secure he would have posted it once and then would have been done with it.

    If he ever gives you any actually stroke related advice then listen to it, otherwise ignore him.

    -SF
     
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