***new Forehand Video*** 3/6/08

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  1. Rafael_Nadal_6257

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    ^ quite believable...now back to the part where other people give him CONSTRUCTIVE criticism on his strokes...

    EDIT: No sarcasm was intended on the quite believable part...
     
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  2. Rafael_Nadal_6257

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    If you looked at my first post on the previous page, I have been quite rational and have defended you...
    Im just saying that you could have played not seriously before the three months and done it...
    Dude, Im trying to help, stop being defensive...
     
  3. sharpilistik

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    This post says it all.

    This kid really needs to grow up.
     
  4. Bungalo Bill

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    From Post 9-7-2007

    - Indicated he is looking for critiques - the whole nine yards

    - Bio Information: Turned 15 a month before which is around 8/7/2007

    - Indicates he was a hacker, used wall-mart racquets, jeans & sandles (in other words, clueless about tennis)

    - Indicates wants everyone to rate him for TOP SEARCH on YOUTUBE

    - Is playing with tennis players clearly rated higher then 2.5 but wants us to determine if he will survive at that level.

    - Indicates he does not want to get "BAGELED" and is "SCARED" about the 2.5 level.

    - Says he is self-taught, does not have money for coaching andheard it is $30.

    - Acts surprised a few posts down and learns it is around $50

    - Again asks for feedback and indicates his playing partners cant hit the ball with pace. Says "I want to get better so I can compete in 2.0 - 2.5 USTA."

    THIS POSTS SERIES

    - Post #3: Indicates he hits better forehands then the ones in the video

    - Post #5: Indicates again he can't take lessons - no money

    - Post #7: He has a consistent use of parenthesis with a qualifier always indicating "he has no clue" about something. This showed up in both posts.

    - Post #11: Is not consistent with him being scared in previous postsa about playing in 2.0 - 2.5 USTA and getting bagled.

    - Post #19: Says he knew there was a doubter (me) and wont bother explaining. lol

    - Post #25 Indicates lessons are $225 at racquet club near house (copperfield) and Dad wont pay for that. Why $225? Isn't $50 enough? Didn't he say he works?

    An auditor would have a hay-day on these comments in an investigation. Bottom-line none of this makes sense.

    You are a liar about how long you have played.
     
  5. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    I need to grow up because I take tennis seriously and play more then most people?

    Okay then Sharp, and sorry Rafael, too many people are getting in my face calling me a liar, after I showed hard proof from my thread 6 months ago.

    It's getting quite frustrating.
     
  6. fed_the_savior

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    I’m not bowled over by your strokes, but they do seem more disciplined than usual for that time frame.

    Can you state categorically that before May 2007 (or whenever it was) you never stepped on a tennis court nor held a tennis racket? If so, I will believe you. Perhaps you watched a lot of tennis and tried very hard, and if so, people shouldn’t take away from what you worked for.

    My advice for your forehand would be to perhaps try and see if you can incorporate a tad loopier backswing. Like bring the racket just a little higher, back a little farther, and wait just a bit longer. Perhaps you transfer your weight into the ball just a tad bit too soon. (I could be way off, but that’s what came to me).
     
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  7. Rafael_Nadal_6257

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    You might be right, but PLEASE! give him criticism on his STOKES. This is the most recent thread on the TENNIS TIPS/INSTRUCTION forum for a while now, and I would think most people would like to see some...IMO
    I am not siding with anyone...just trying to be rational and get people to talk about TENNIS.
    EDIT: This is in reference to Bungalo Bill's post about inconsistencies...
     
  8. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    You just killed your own theory..

    - Says he is self-taught, does not have money for coaching andheard it is $30.

    EXACTLY, "HEARD IT IS 30 DOLLARS" meaning I thought it was, if you think the lessons @ the racket club aren't 225+ dollars. Come down to Houston,Texas. Copperfield Racquet & Health Club on Longenbaugh and Highway 6. Go ahead and come and ask them what their prices are. I'd love to prove you wrong.
     
  9. Bungalo Bill

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    First off, I didnt use your nickname grudingly. It may not matter to you but it matters to me. So what is that to you? I think it is best that you stop now. I am the wrong person you want to get it on with. Why dont you do me a favor and follow your own advice - stay out of it.

    Now you are on.
     
  10. Bungalo Bill

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    Actually, smart boy, it is information gathering. Now, it is time to discuss what they all mean. Can I call anyone? What is your name? What high school is that you played at? Can we verify everything you have said? Let's start with the 2.0 - 2.5 comments.

    I also noticed that in both posts NEW USERS popped up supporting you and your ridiculous claims.
     
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  11. Rafael_Nadal_6257

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    It is kind of hard to stay out of it after I have heard all kind of positive things about this forum and just joined two weeks ago, to have people argue about a 15 year old kid's story, rather than give him good advice and feedback. This is the top thread on the TENNIS TIPS/INSTRUCTION forum, people come here to see what kinds of advice Batman is getting on his strokes he posted online
    ...I do not want to get into conflicts on the internet, it is rather useless and pointless at the same time.
     
  12. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    As I have said before.

    This is how I got into tennis.

    I was in an class in school called "AAS" short for Advanced Academic Strategies" or something along those lines. This course is A HALF-CREDIT meaning HALF-SEMESTER. In Texas, you need 1 and a half years of an athletic course, I had more then enough, due to I did Athletics in middle school, but I decided to do Tennis because I heard it was easy, 2nd semester starts AFTER Christmas, which is January. This is January of 2007. I could not play the first couple days because I did not have a filled out "Physical" so I could participate. When I did get it, I bought a wal-mart racket and played for fun, when May came around, I got my Green Prince racket stolen from my locker (I got this racket couple months after my first walmart racket) then my friend Grant sold me a Babolat Drive Z Tour for 80 dollars and that is when I started playing seriously. (May 2007)
     
  13. fed_the_savior

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    Thanks. So before January 2007 you had not ever played tennis. I think you’ve done really well, and progressed quickly. I don’t think it’s unbelievable for just over a year, that’s a good bit of time. I wouldn’t be offended at the doubters, because there has been a lot of hoaxers on here that have been proven to exaggerate. Just let it rest and your honesty will speak for itself.

    It’d be nice to get more angles on your (latest) forehand. From behind is best, to see how they are landing.
     
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  14. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    I play for Cy-Fair High School

    I just got moved up from JV to Varsity tennis about 3-4 weeks ago.

    GRANT : Who sold me the Babolat Drive Z Tour.

    Phone Number: 281 468 1790

    Go ahead and call him
     
  15. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    You wanted to talk to someone Bungalo, go ahead and call him.
     
  16. Bungalo Bill

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    Well, I feel like I am talking to the OP. You have a lot of qualifying statements similar to the original OP. Are you brothers? lol ;)
     
  17. hyogen

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    i don't think it helps anyone when someone's lying about their experience. so are people supposed to be discouraged and quit tennis because someone comes in here claiming to be something he isn't? why help a liar or a cheater? :confused:
     
  18. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    Mmhmm, were brothers. Thats exactly it.
    I know him, his name is Billy Bobby Bob and hes my brother.
     
  19. Rafael_Nadal_6257

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    Are you serious? I just found this thread yesterday and have posted numerous times before in other threads...
     
  20. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    I already gave Bungalo Bill a phone number to my friend Grant. Why don't you call him?
     
  21. Bungalo Bill

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    Geeez, why would I call someone who knows you and you know him? Are you that naive?
     
  22. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    Wow, you can't be pleased can you?

    I give you cold hard proof I am not a liar, I give you a phone number to CALL.. JUST LIKE YOU ASKED FOR

    You just won't stop living in ignorance will you?
     
  23. hyogen

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    so what is your name kiddo? bungalo bill with all his experience sure is living in ignorance, alright...
     
  24. Bungalo Bill

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    Geez, dude wake up. You are the one trying to not get "bagled" in a 2.0 USTA league with your "newly learned" strokes. lol

    You haven't given me jack. You still are a liar. PERIOD.
     
  25. Gee Willikers Batman!

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  26. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    Um, I was trying not to get bageled in 2.0, get ready for this old man, 6 MONTHS AGO. Thats why thats in the old thread, not this one. And I havent given you "jack"? Excuse me? You asked for a phone number to call to verify what I have said. I give you that, and you say I haven't given you anything okay. Good job, ask for something in a post, then say you don't need it in another one.
     
  27. NotAtTheNet

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    I like them alot, I use them on the mains and a regular synth gut across. They give me a great feel, with a nice pop, and lots of topspin (...like i would need more topspin).

    Used to use gamma XL's and TNT2, but they just didn't have the feel i wanted, and the babolat hurricanes gave me a bit of a dampened feel too.

    These poly's feel great and are at a good price point. They're pretty durable too, if you hit on the sweet spot. If you don't (when tweaking my serve, i caught one too many balls too close to the head, and pop goes the string) they'll pop.

     
  28. fed_the_savior

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    super smash is my favorite string. I recommend giving it a try if you like a string that pockets the ball.
     
  29. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    Yeah, I think I am trying a hybrid stringed racket with Kirschbaum strings next time I pop my strings.
     
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    you know, i'm going to stop posting here on this thread and go hit some balls... do something constructive...
     
  31. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    Lol. I would too, but it started raining. Damn Texas' unreliable weather. It has been so unpredictable nowadays.
     
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    Well I just saw this thread and the whole sordid saga. All I have to say is I couldn't care less about the lying or posturing and whether or not serious crimes have been committed !!

    To Bungalo Bill - I sorta agree with you that its almost impossible to develop those kinds of strokes in that short a time, esp with no formal coaching. More than the strokes its the things like picking up the ball, footwork etc that only come with playing tennis all the time with players at a high level, and not someone just learning.

    To the OP - there is no need to post your personal details on an internet forum to satisy anonymous posters. You have very good strokes and I will give you the benefit of the doubt, since you obviously care about the game.

    I haven't seen much feedback on his actual strokes. OP, please get your friend to post the other videos (or shoot some new ones). I think a video of you playing a few points would go a long way towaards proving (or disproving) the whole time theory.

    Meanwhile, enjoy your tennis :)
     
  33. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    I really don't see how this is so hard to believe. 9 months of serious tennis is a LONG TIME to play. I play at LEAST 3 times per week, for usually 3 hours at a time. thats 9 hours of tennis per week for 9 months. Thats ALOTTT of time to get better, but whatever. I guess none of you have natural talent.

    Anyways, yeah we plan on shooting more video tommorrow, but with Texas, (Houston's) unpredictable weather, were not sure if it will rain. None the less, I will get a video up sometime in the next week or so.
     
  34. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    Oh yeah, not to mention I play for my high school which means an extra 1 and a half hour for school practice time, and I play tournaments.
     
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    that's exactly why we have so many vietnamese naturally gifted players in pro tennis *thumbs up* (and asian, for that matter!)

    our height and power is unmatched.

    I would know nothing about natural talent. I had to struggle for years and years to get to where i am now.
     
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  36. Doc Hollidae

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    This is a funny thread.

    My two cents:
    I agree with Bill. You may or may not have had formal training necessarily, but it's pretty easy to tell you've been playing longer than approximately a year.

    A few reasons:
    1) The racket flipping at the start of your groundstrokes vid. While I'm sure there are some exceptions, at a beginner level you typically don't see someone of that level, that comfortable handling a racket.

    2) Beginners typically have very mechanical strokes. You look much more comfortable and fluid with your stroke.
     
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    Whether youre telling the truth or not, you are pretty arrogant to say the least
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  38. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    Lol? I learned how to flip my racket like that from my friend at the Racket & Health Club, he plays for Langham Creek high school, longer then a year? Okay. You guys are so smart, you KNOW Me for a fact. Thats it. Now I know why the local professionals say this tennis board is full of bull, none of you are any good so you put down others to make yourself feel better. (Except for a few that are actually worth naming) Good job.
     
  39. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    You know what, whatever, I'm going to sign up for the USTA or whatever start playing those tournaments and get some points to get a ranking, and show you how much better you can get in a short amount of time if you actually try.
     
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    batman, you are beating a dead horse, just stop now. You arent going to convince anyone who doesnt believe you at this point..
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  41. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    Well people should stop being so stubborn. People didn't believe me 6 months ago when I said I played for 3 months and they called me a liar.

    Same thing now.
    6 months later, total of 9 months of serious tennis and people still call me a liar.

    No matter what anyone says, I know when I started playing, and I know that I am not lying about my tennis experience.
     
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    I do not recall a confrontation between us. If there was it was not one felt by me.

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  43. Doc Hollidae

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    While natural talent helps, tennis is also a very fundamental and repetitive sport. I've seen tons of "natural athletes" pick up a racket and attempt to play and fail. While their athleticism gives them a edge over other beginners, their natural talent doesn't transition to natural and fluid strokes. They still have to learn how to swing and the proper way to hit each stroke.
     
  44. Doc Hollidae

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    LOL. Not any good? This is why you posted video of your strokes to ask for critique. Be less of a scrub.
     
  45. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    Which is why I spent hours of hours on end infront of the ball machine.


    Oh and yes, I asked critiques on this forum knowing not so many people had the ability to play well, but you can know certain fundamentals and techniques without being able to play well. Like my uncle, he is too old to play now, but he knows certain fundamentals and rights and wrongs about my game that he helps me with every once in awhile when we hit. Just because someone is physically unable to hit well doesn't mean they don't know the game front and back neccessarily.
     
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    Hey Gee,

    You ARE immature. You spent the last dozen posts practically arguing you were not a liar. What happens to discussing critics of the technicals? You are focusing on the wrong thing.
     
  47. Doc Hollidae

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    Dude, you're starting to talk in circles and making less and less sense.
     
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    Batman, you are taking this all the wrong way. If I posted a video and no one believed I had only been playing a year because they thought that there was no way anyone one could develop that fast, I would take that as the highest compliment.
     
  49. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    I'm sorry, I made total sense. I said:

    I spent hours and hours on end infront of the ball machine grooving my strokes in, so now they are fluid. Then I said, someone doesn't have to be physically able to play the game to give critiques about it. My uncle is out of shape and cannot play well, but he knows a good amount to tell me what I am doing wrong when we play together.




    Yes, I thought people were complimenting at first too, but then it started getting personal and people started calling me an out-right liar. -_-
     
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    good point
     

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