New forehand video, take a look and please comment :)

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  1. Failed

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  2. rkelley

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    You hit it well, but I'm just not a fan of the extreme grip.

    Is it working for you?
     
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  3. ProgressoR

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    You got quite a few high balls but even on the ones that weren't high, your swing path looked kind of through the ball, not so much low to high.
    I would have thought with the more extreme grip you would need to focus on low to high to generate the topspin your grip gives you access to.......?
     
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  4. newpball

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    I think you are trying hard to work on your form and that is great as many people really do not want to work on that.

    The order of things in the kinetic chain need to be:
    legs -> waist -> shoulder/breast -> arm -> racket flip -> impact.

    You don't do that. The movement of the waist is lagging. You might want to try to hit the ball a little farther away from you that may fix it.
     
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  5. josofo

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    reminds me of ernie gulbis forehand and soderling. i noticed that earnie holds the racket with two hands longer on the take back.


    it would seem to me you're take back can get screwed up by just having the your right hand do all the work.
     
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  6. Failed

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    Yeah, I will work on the left hand next
     
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  7. LeeD

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    Is that really all that different than your forehand of 2 years ago?
    Seems similar Hawaiin grip (strong W), similar swingpath.
    We know you are a 5-5.5 level player.
    How is your forehand working out in match play? Does it tend to breakdown on wide low balls? Does it have trouble with hard hit balls directly hit to your body?
    If not, it's good enough, time to work on other aspects of play.
    You have the strongest forehand grip of anyone on the ATP tour.
     
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  8. BeGreat

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    can someone, for the love of god, give scientific justification for emphasizing this concept of kinetic chain? I get the transfer of energy concept.

    But where is the proof that bending of the legs actually improves the speed of the stroke by actually transferring the stored energy from your legs through bending, into your waist, and eventually through your racket??

    where is the proof??
    if i am tossing something straight up, then yes, it makes sense to bend down and gain momentum. but how much of the stored energy from bending down transfers into the racket?

    if there's proof, great, love to see it. if you're just going to say "well, it's obvious. coaches have known this for decades" then save it. coaches are...well, coaches are just talkers.
     
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  9. josofo

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    in baseball i hit fairly straight up. didn't seem to hurt my power. ken griffy used to hit fairly straight up as well. i think bending your knees is more useful for quickness as far as your movement around the court than the power is your strokes
     
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  10. newpball

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    I would like to see how you turn your waist without bending your legs. :grin:
     
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  11. MisterP

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    I liked how you started stepping into your shots more toward the end of the vid. Your finish is good too. Nice and high. I'd like to see you take maybe one more step on some of the high balls that are out to your right. It looks like you are a little off balance at times. 0:51 is one example where I feel like your feet are set slightly too early and it causes you to fall away from your shot a bit.
     
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  12. CRWV

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    the point is you are using your largest/strongest muscle groups to generate torque at the center of your mass, which results in the highest rotational force at the tip of the racquet. levers and centrifugal force are the key elements.
     
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  13. kub

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    main criticism: step into your shots whenever you can, more knee bend and exaggerate the shoulder turn.

    good luck!
     
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