New String: Topspin Concept Pure

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  1. BigGriff

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    I just got a couple of packs of a new poly from Topspin called Concept Pure. Anybody try it yet???
     
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  2. lawlitssoo1n

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    i just read some review of it and it seems like a great string. i wanna get a reel of these and hybird them with CF on crosses, and CP on mains.
     
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  3. lpicken

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    ^^^That sound's like a potent hybrid. Let us know how it turns out. Full CF is killing my arm but I love the stuff once I tweaked it to my game and broke it in.
     
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  4. lawlitssoo1n

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    btw what gauge to you use?
    i have 16G and getting 17G. but i don't know what to put on my kblade tour
     
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  5. 408tennisguy

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    I just ordered 2 sets to try out, I have a reel of SPPP and a reel of baseline speed coming in from TW..... If i like this new string I might have to return my reels....I liked cyberblue but it was too hard on my arm, and I got alot of spin from Cyberflash but didn't like it at first
     
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  6. lawlitssoo1n

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    hm.. cyberblue is pretty soft. i don't know how it can hurt ur arm comparted to other polys
     
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  7. 408tennisguy

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    Well it was a lot stiffer than SPPP pure and it ended up hurting my arm after about 2 hours
     
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  8. ambro

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    Two polys in a hybrid is worthless. Unless you're doing it solely for the different colors. Otherwise, there is no benefit, really.
     
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  9. lawlitssoo1n

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    Im doing it so i get a stiffer feel from the CF.
     
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  10. ambro

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    Still, if you feel any difference it is mainly psychological. And if you like that, and it helps you play better, more power to you. But I'm just saying it has no real physical benefits that would be noticeable.
     
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  11. lawlitssoo1n

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    then why do u go natural gut/poly? the poly is useless on the crosses.
     
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  12. Lloyd Barcenilla

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    How do you think this will compare to Big ace and cyber blue?
     
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  13. PED

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    I'd have to kindly disagree with you on this.

    I used to use cyberpower mains and CF crosses: it was a nice combo since the CP is a good bit softer than the CF and is a good bit more powerful as well.

    If two strings different playing characteristics (even if they are polys) why wouldn't there be a benefit from putting them together? For example, ALU are BA are both polys but they couldn't be more different :)

    BTW, from your sig, I love that Klip Excellerator/CF setup, it's really nice and I found that I liked X1/CF even more but couldn't get more than 2 hours or so out of it.
     
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  14. PROTENNIS63

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    On the german topspin website they say it is a poly with no color additives making it very soft. Might be the same as one of their other polys but just has no color added to it.
     
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  15. Lloyd Barcenilla

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    If this is the case, i'm guessing a cyber white?
     
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  16. Casco

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    Looking forward to someone using it and describing it.
     
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  17. lawlitssoo1n

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    i contacted topspin and they said the string is a newer development of cyber blue
     
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  18. Blade0324

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    I have a couple sets of this on the way that should be here by the end of the week to demo. Have a good contact that was able to get me them to try out for free. I'll be stringing them up quite soon and will let you know my thoughts.
     
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  19. Lloyd Barcenilla

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    Just hit with a set of topspin cyberpower, haven't used it in a while.
    All i can say is wow, amazing stuff.
     
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  20. old coach

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    If it is newer development of Cyber Blue than may be it is indeed Cyber Blue without any coloring, which in fact will give you more spin and power.
    I will have to make a few phone calls on this subject.
     
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  21. 408tennisguy

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    Just strung up my ncode 6.1 95 16x18 with the 1.24 gauge at 57lbs and will play test it tomorrow, I will post back here with a review
     
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  22. MarrratSafin

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    I agree. 10 chars
     
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  23. Lloyd Barcenilla

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    Let us know what you think
     
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  24. 408tennisguy

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    Alrighty, so here's my review
    Topspin concept pure (1.24mm) strung on a ncode 6.1 95 16x18 racquet at 57 lbs.
    Initially, stringing this stuff wasn't as bad as some other polys I have strung. It's a little softer than normal polys so weaving was a little easier than most. I could tell right away as I was stringing this would be something I would like, because of the feel and texture of the material in this string.
    GROUND STROKES:has a nice responsive feel to it. I have used many types of str4ing and if I could classify,it would be a cross between Signum Pro Poly Plasma Pure and Topspin Cyber Blue, whereas it has the softness and feel of the SPPP and the comparison of the amount of power in the cyber blue. I seem to be getting a great amount of topspin and underspin with the ball when I need to,and have full control of where I want to hit the ball. This string has great ball pocketing and it may be do to the tension I set it at, but when I use more force, it is difficult for the opponent to hit the ball back consistently.
    SERVING: I consider myself as having pretty good serving game. My first serves I hit flat and with this string I have been pretty consistent, making about 75% of my first serves in the service box at full speed, and boy did my serves shine! I was able to place the serve where I wanted it to and have so much control on how I hit the ball, I have never been so confident in my first serves until now. My second serve is a pretty decent kick serve and has been on point the whole session, not very many double faults, maybe about 4 or 5 the whole 3 hours I was testing out these strings. I admit, Cyber blue has more oomph on my serves than anything I have ever tried, but the concept pure feels so comfortable on my arm, it barely feels like I'm serving.
    VOLLEYS: Stringing the racquet at 57lbs. may put a damper on your volley game if you string your racquet at a low tension. The Topspin Concept Pure is technicallly a "soft" poly, from what I felt and I had some trouble keeping the volleys in play. For High tension stringers, this should not be a problem and volleys should feel more "crisp" than "springy". For me, SPPP at high tension (59-62, this is considered high for me because of the general stiffness of polys and may not concern people who generally string in this area) is ideal for volleying and has more feel and control than lower tensions, much like the topspin concept pure..
    All in all, this is my perception of what Topsing Concept Pure (1.24mm) plays like from personal experience, and I would recommend people to try it because it really works for me. After 3 hours of play, I feel no tennis elbow, no straining of the muscles, a really satisfied combination of the feel (softness) of SPPP with a combination of CB/CF amount of power . I'll second that this string is NOT like CyberBlue where it is just a different color, this is a totally different string, from my experience with both and this feels just as powerful, but softer than the CB. If you like SPPP, or any of the topspin products, this string will open your eyes to a new light, I guarantee it. If you have any further questions, please message me. Plus, this is my first day ever using this type of string, so as far as retaining tension and having the string go "dead" as people call it, I will update when the time comes.
     
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  25. nickarnold2000

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    Thanks for the review and please do report back on its tension maintenance. That's the main reason why I switched from CF to CP - better tension maintenance. This new string sounds very interesting.
     
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  26. lawlitssoo1n

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    im thinking of using it in 16G becuase its a soft poly.
    so im going to buy a reel of CF and CP
     
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  27. Blade0324

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    Hey guys, just gonna offer my thoughts on this sting as well as I have been hitting it for about a week now.
    I have it strung up in a MGPP as mains at 59 with Spiral Flex 16g crosses at 62.
    I am mostly a baseliner with SW forehand and 2HBH and play with pretty good variety.
    I found this to be easy to string up and the string bed has maintained DT really well over the life. (only dropped about 6lb. DT in a week)
    Ground Strokes feel really good with the setup. I was a bit concerned about control with a softer string but don't find it to be an issue at all. I am able to get nice depth on my shots and have not had any issues with balls flying. The sweet spot feels a little bigger with this string over some others and provides nice feedback. Spin production seems to be as good as many other poly's I've used including some of the so called "spin strings". The balls kicks up nice with topspin shots and has good action on it.
    Volleys have been pretty good over all. No real points that make it shine or fail for me but this is a small part of my game although again the feedback is pretty nice.
    Serves have felt great so far. I feel like I get a little more pop on them and I have excellent control over direction. Spin is great on slice and kick serves and the action on the ball seems to be very nice too.
    Overall for the price this is going to be a popular string IMO. It plays great and holds up well, both tension and durability. Great job to Topspin on another fine sting in thier catalog.
     
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  28. coloskier

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    Say, when is TW going to get this string?
     
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  29. PED

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    Blade, great writeup and pertinent for me since I use the MGPP as well :) What is your usual setup and tension. I've used both CF and CP in the past and usually ended up liking CF a hair better.

    Thanks again for the review
     
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  30. Blade0324

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    Normally I have 2 frames, one with red code 17g mains at 60 with spiral flex 16g crosses at 63, the other with same strinds at 59,61 respectively.
    I then have one with cyber blue 17g mains at 60 with spiral flex 16g crosses at 62.
    A fourth with PHT 17 at 59 and spiral flex or addiction 16g crosses at 61.
    My last one is strung with Armor pro nat. gut at 60,63 in a 17g.

    I have used CF a number of times and like it really well in the mains as do I like BB alu power in the mains. I just find that the strings that I use normally now are best for my game. I may like the concept pure well enough to make it my norm over the cyber blue but tension maint. will help determine this too.
     
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  31. 408tennisguy

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    Well here's an update on these strings. It's been raining here in the bay area and I have not been able to play for the past week or so except for 1 other day. Finally went out and played some tennis and noticed my strings were dead. The strings were very stiff, did not have as much feel and power as it once did when I first played with the new strings and started hurting my wrist and arm before I put it down. I really like these strings but if they go dead so quick, I might not be a happy camper with these new strings. Any thoughts? Maybe do a hybrid with another poly? Total hours of play around 9-10, tension loss minimal until it started going dead.
     
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  32. Blade0324

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    I will provide an update on mine as well. It has been strung for about 2 weeks and total play time is about 7 hours of actual hitting with this frame. Still feels really nice to me and the tension is holding pretty well. It does seems to bite into the ball a little bit more than the Cyber Blue, kind of similar to the CF in that area but it is softer than CF more like the CB. In all I am finding this to be a great string that provides excellent spin, nice power, is quite comfortable and has good touch. If it lasts another 3-5 hours of hitting I'll be very happy with it. 408tennisguy said that his went dead after about 9-10 hours of hitting but IMO that is pretty much the life expectancy of a poly.
     
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  33. Lloyd Barcenilla

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    Any more reviews regarding this string?
    Especially in comparison to Cyber blue.
    It is now available on Strin* Depo*
     
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  34. Il Mostro

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    Isn't this the old name for Cyber Blue? Same string, different name?
     
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  35. Lloyd Barcenilla

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    Yeah it is.
    Sorry, Cyberpower just came into my head when typing :)
     
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  36. lawlitssoo1n

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    dayum SPD plus is giving 20% off if u order 2 or more does anybody is LOS ANGELES, want to buy it with me?
     
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  37. texastornado

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    the email i got said 1 or more reel... dunno if you get the free shipping though.
     
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  38. sk8ing

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    yep its 1 or more reels
     
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  39. Il Mostro

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    Thanks. When it comes to poly I have a hard time keeping them straight -- so many flavors with similar sounding names. :)
     
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  42. jman

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    Like the review guys, just ordered a reel from SDP. Can't wait to start playing with them!!
     
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  44. 408tennisguy

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    Wow I got no emails as of now, Can someone please send me the 20% off coupon......I wrote a great review on these strings *wink wink*
     
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    Email sent to 408tennisguy, TTBabe and SDTENNIS.
     
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  46. Sleepstream

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    Why not buy from the SDP competitor who promises to beat their price as stated on their blog?
     
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  47. Il Mostro

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    Would you mind sending it to me too? Thank you.
     
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  48. PBODY99

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    Enter "tcp20" at checkout
     
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  49. 408tennisguy

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    The code tcp20 works, you just don't get free shipping. Darn I wanted a mini reel of the concept pure with the 20% off but it's a no go.
     
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  50. lawlitssoo1n

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    wait they have a mini reel? i don't think they do
     
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