New Tattoo and Tennis

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  1. CaldwellYSR

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    I'm relatively new to tennis. I play 4-5 days a week for 3+ hours a day. Nothing competitive (yet) just for fun. I have been thinking about getting a tattoo on the inside of my forearm. A little closer to the elbow than this one and about that size. On the forearm of my dominant arm (left).

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    After talking to the artist and finding information online, everybody is saying I need to keep it out of the sun while it heals but I don't need to keep it bandaged up the whole time either. Which basically sounds to me like "don't play tennis for the two week healing period". There are worse things in life I know but I really don't want to take two weeks off from playing tennis just for a tattoo! So here's my questions to y'all:

    What kind of precautions should I take to keep a new tattoo protected while playing tennis?

    Will all the movement and sweating on my arm cause any damage to the tattoo?
     
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  2. r2473

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    You are not allowed to sweat, shower, etc. for a two week period after getting your tattoo. Its just the price ya gotta pay.

    Tennis is fine though.
     
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    Arg, would a sweatband over the tattoo be bad?
     
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    I think everyone should get a tattoo (just like everyone else) to prove their individuality.

    At least it isn't a tramp stamp. More like a white trash stamp. :)

    I suggest getting a temporary tattoo. That way about the same time the novelty wears off so will the tattoo.

    If you really want to look like a bad ass, why not cut off one of your ears and staple it to your forehead? You'll make the other tattoo dudes look like whimps. They'll be so jealous.
     
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    I'm not trying to look badass or to prove my individuality. I'm getting a tattoo because what I'm getting is something I'm passionate about and something I've thought about doing for a long time. This isn't a spur of the moment drunken thing that will wear off. I wasn't asking for your judgement of my idea to get a tattoo I was asking for advice on protecting the tattoo while it's healing. Specifically trying to play tennis.
     
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    That was funny.

    The rest not so much.
     
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    So, you are passionate about permanently inking some squigly lines on your forearm? To each his own.

    Tattoo removal is keeping dermatologists in Porsche payments. Bear in mind that what seems cool when you are 20 or 25 seems ultra stupid when you are a bit older.

    But, it is your arm, do as you see fit. I still think the amputated ear stapled to your forehead makes more of a statement. :)
     
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    I'm still not trying to "make a statement" and I'm not getting that tattoo in the picture either if that's your confusion about the squiggly lines. I'm getting a snippet of code tattooed on my arm because that's what I plan to do with the rest of my life, be a software engineer. Can we move past the judgement and actually provide constructive advice to the thread please?
     
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    I often take a contrarian viewpoint and I was much more teasing you/mocking you than judging you. You can hack off your arm for all I care. (Again, more of a statement.) You can be Stumpy the man for whom getting a mere tattoo was not nearly enough. :) Maybe get a hook. That would look really rad.

    My constructive advise is not to deface your arm with some silly code. That you will regret it eventually. But, you seem determined to do so. Hopefully, you won't contract hepatitis.

    Good luck with your project.
     
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    Yes. No sweating and no sweatbands.

    But again, tennis is just fine.
     
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    Yeah hopefully not! The artist I'm going to is pretty professional and I'm going to watch her sterilize the equipment. Hopefully that helps.
     
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    Lol well the way I play I'll be sweating in a heartbeat :p I'll just tone it down for a few weeks, play less and not play too hard that I end up sweating too much.
     
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    ^^ Federer never sweats. Just saying.
     
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    Hahaha I believe that... Either way I'm not in the best of shape and I run for every single ball when I play. Plus it's hot this summer. I'm not saying I play well or anything... just that my mentality is the way to get better is to run and try my damndest to get every ball :p That tends to end with my sweating ;)
     
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    You have to keep it out of direct sun while it is healing. Talk to the tattoo artist. I played with a long sleeve dry fit shirt and no issues.
     
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    Schweet thanks
     
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    If you use the term "schweet" and are looking at a forearm tattoo, my advice is to sleep on it.

    amiright?

    Otherwise, Fearsome Forehand is dead on.
     
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    So proper grammar on a casual forum determines the responsibility required to get a tattoo? I'm not trying to be defensive or anything but I really don't understand the logic behind y'all trying to talk me out of something I've been thinking about and wanted for over a year. I'm not being irresponsible in this decision. I'm taking my time and learning as much as possible before getting this tat.
     
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    I'm getting a grocery list tattooed on my forearm. I gave it long, if not very intelligent, thought. It's something I intend to use the rest of my life - as I'll need bread, eggs, bacon, OJ, etc. every week or two.

    Please don't judge me. I just want to know if I should serve underhanded until the tattoo heals.
     
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    dont worry about what others say about tattoos, that's a personal issue with them. I have ink (half sleeve) that recently got done too. Best thing to do is not play tennis for at least a week until the scabbing period is over. Last thing you want is for the scab to crack which can mess up the ink. After its done scabbing wear a long sleeve to cover up the tattoo for about another week until its completely heeled.
     
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    Not picking a fight, but how can one reasonably exclude "judgment" from any kind of constructive advice?

    And of course, good judgment is a very good thing to have!

    Flip-side, sometimes advice will come to people that they don't agree with or don't want to hear, or which suggests they forego some kind of pleasure that they love. Does that make one a "hater"?
     
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    I should get the tattoo now as I just popped a string and have to wait a week for my new racquet!

    On a serious note thanks for the advice.
     
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    Nobody looks better with a pointless tattoo. It's a decision everybody regrets. They're disgusting and scream low class at you.
     
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    The advice they are giving has nothing to do with the question is my problem. I'm asking about precautions in protecting the tattoo and they're making fun of the idea to get one in the first place. It's just rather frustrating is all.

    Also it's hard to exclude judgement from advice but you don't have to voice your judgement if it isn't constructive to the question at hand. I do see where you're coming from though and disagreeing doesn't make them a hater. Just makes for frustrating conversation when their disagreement doesn't pertain to the question :)
     
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    Maybe they scream low class at you but not at me or many other people in the world :) and it's not like everyone will always be able to see my tattoo. It's going to be easily covered up.
     
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    If you're going to cover your tattoo, why get one in the first place?
     
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    Because some people, like you, despise them. So if I'm going to a job interview or other event where I might run into someone important that has that opinion then having it covered will keep them from getting a bad first impression before I ever get a chance at a good one.
     
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    Man, you've got all sorts of people raining on your parade, huh?

    Question to those out there: If you went through your life happily and as usual, reached the age you are now, and then found out your mother/father had a tattoo that they never told you about, does it change who they are (and have always been) to you? Does the image of who they are in your mind change?

    I won't put words into anyone's mouth here, but for me, the answer is no.

    That's why if I were OP, I'd want to have a hide-able tattoo. People are judgmental, and first impressions ARE important. I think discussions like these are interesting. I like hearing about the viewpoints of others. However, some people are really set in their ways, and have a very closed mind to other opinions, and those discussions aren't very useful to me :)
     
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    Of course it wouldn't change who they are and it would do little to nothing to change my image of them. The reality is, parents are human too and they are imperfect. I'm sure I'm not aware of every poor decision my parents have made throughout their lives. If I were to find out either had a tattoo all this time, I would be impressed with the inconspicuous manner with which they carried it.
     
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    I find people with tattoos, piercings, etc. like to talk about their alterations... unless they are talking to someone who doesn't show approval of those things. They tend to quickly become defensive. As if they believe that if others had their way, they would outlaw the procedures.

    I like to explore the reasons and psychology behind these alterations. I'm not looking for "justification", so "it makes me happy" or "I just like how it looks" doesn't really say anything of interest. Isn't part of the allure of these alterations, the symbolism or the suggestion of something mysterious or complex about the individual's character? I'm sure it can be difficult for someone with tats or piercings to discuss the issue with people who are critical of those things, but I appreciate those who can.
     
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    I personally wouldn't(/don't) enjoy talking about stuff like this with others, but maybe I'm unique in that respect. Even if the person is receptive, I think there's little chance that it's possible to get the "deep meaning" (if there is one) across. I don't blame people for becoming defensive. Even if someone is just asking questions and trying to understand the situation, it often ends up very condescending. I actually think the question of "Oh, what does your tattoo represent/mean" to be pretty interesting in itself. It's as if someone needs a deep/meaningful reason to have one rather than the reason that it simply makes them happy. What IF the reason is largely/completely superficial? What IF the answer is: "I think it looks good?" Is that a crappier justification? I don't like the discussion because the burden of proof of worth/value/commitment is immediately upon the person who got the tattoo to begin with. Do (some) people have regrets in the future? Sure! Plenty! I don't doubt/deny/have any problems with that. I feel that the discussion almost guarantees the need to be defensive.

    It's totally cool that you like to explore the psychology/reasoning/logic behind body mods. How often, though, do you get the answer: "Oh, I assure you, I've thought it out many times, attacked all the angles, really wanted this for several years, I swear!" Even if this is genuinely the case, people DO change, people DO regret, etc. All people need is one negative story to justify dismissing all the positive ones. This is why I think it's silly to have more than the reason "it makes me happy/happier."

    I don't fully agree with your statement of allure. There isn't any necessary symbolism or suggestion of mystery (in all cases) in my mind. There doesn't need to be, IMO. I fully respect your approach to body mods, though, and I think it's pretty cool that you can approach it with an open mind, but I personally would approach it in a much more reserved fashion. Even if one were to have a "nice" and/or cordial conversation about their "body art" (another corny term I don't really like), I feel that the non-modded will still walk away from the conversation with the "yep, just confirmed I'm right" attitude, assuming negative bias to begin with.

    Like I said: Someone tells you "I've wanted this for years." Is that good justification to you? Pretty easy to dismiss the above as: Yeah, yeah, i'm sure you have, you're still naive, though. Also "It represents XYZ" becomes: So what, why do you need to plaster it onto your skin? :confused::confused:

    IMO there's no good justification to someone who won't believe a reason's a good one, just because you say so. I find a lot of people are very non-receptive to things they don't understand/can't understand, and tattoos and body mods are one of those things that you won't understand (at least from the perspective of someone else), so being defensive is kind of a natural thing.

    Ergo: "It makes me happy."

    IMHO, as per usual.

    Edit: OP, we've nicely derailed your thread now, just let me know if the discussion is too far off track that you're not getting your question answered.

    As far as tennis, I'd talk to your artist about what they recommend, but I wouldn't use a sweatband. That can cause irritation. I'd use a bandage over the area to deal with the sunlight, but only apply adhesive outside of the area where your work is done. I'd also avoid ointments/lotions unless the artist says it's OK [Or you buy a product that is more suited for this application -- no fragrances, etc]. I'd avoid the sunblock.

    If I were you, I'd just do some cardio or core strength training indoors for a few weeks.
     
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    Sounds like good advice to the OP.

    Your argument regarding arguing about tattoos is plausible and I follow it, though I think it assumes a little too much. I just think "I like how it looks/It makes me happy" is the flip side of "It makes you look like an idiot." Though I think there is some truth to the latter, I don't think that has to be the end of the conversation. I'm willing to look further into the matter and possibly learn something about a person, or society for that matter.

    I think I'm safe in saying that everybody judges people, to varying degrees, on appearances. I think it's understandable, if not always spot on, if someone judges a tattooed/pierced/altered individual as attention seeking, or having poor judgement, or uncomfortable in their own skin, or having difficulty/unwillingness to adjust to society, or superficial, or a combination of any of those things. Of course I realize judging someone by their tattoos can be, in itself, superficial. Such a thing wouldn't affect my actions if someone needed or asked for my help. I reserve my full measure of an individual until I hear them out and witness their actions.
     
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    All these posts and not a single photo of the best reason not to get a tat? She used to be attractive.

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    For what it's worth, in the general population, there is a stigma, be it deserved or undeserved. It is something you will have to accept if you decide to get the tattoo. In the health care industry, tattoos are part of a social history, in part because those with tattoos are at risk for hepatitis but also in part because those with tattoos tend to engage in riskier behavior socially (drugs, alcohol, sexual promiscuity, etc.). It certainly isn't causative, but the link exists because as in most stereotypes, there is some degree of truth. Otherwise, the stereotype wouldn't have arisen in the first place.

    I'm all for you doing what you want. I just think that you are the one who has to expect to deal with the stigma because society isn't changing all that quickly.

    From a health care perspective, keep it clean and follow instructions. Don't play light tennis or just sweat a little. I'd hate for you to wind up with raging cellulitis because you overdid it in some way, shape, or form. If the tattoo is what you want, do what you are told by the artist.
     
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    Before this thread I felt like the stigma was a thing of the past. So many people have tattoo's now that I didn't think it was so taboo or anything anymore. Guess I was pretty wrong in that regard! I'm okay with it though as the people that would jump to an immediate conclusion and not give me a chance at a first impression because of a tattoo aren't really the people I want to be around anyways. (With the obvious exception of interviewers and bosses).

    Thanks for the advice at the end too... I'll have to talk to the artist more about the tennis thing.
     
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    And I think you hit the nail on the head regarding your exception. It's not your everyday person that you have to be concerned about...it's the people you want to get a job from who typically hold onto the old notion of tattoos being taboo. If they are closed-minded (which tey may well be), with unemployment high and the job market low, I'd hate to be on the receiving end of their disdain for anything other than mainstream (or their mainstream of old).

    Regardless, best of luck to you with the whole experience.
     
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    Yeah, luckily I will be able to cover mine in those situations :) thanks I'll probably update after I get the tat
     
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    Um I've got a tattoo in my inner bicept And when i got it i played tennis that afternoon. I just tried not to rub it and wash it and put on anti septic cream as quick as i can after im done.

    However u have to try wear clothing that will not rub on it. Other wise u might have to put on a cover while playing and take it off after.

    after about 1 week it shud scab and u shub b able to play normally. just avoid any rubbing with clothings again.

    2nd week i think this is the itching part. avoid rubbing and scratching again. and apply anti septic cream regularly to help to itching + prevent germs.

    then 3rd week it shud be almost full healed and u wont notice much pain or itchiness and it'll prolly have flattened it self it out by now and feel almost like ur normal skin..

    Dont listen to some of the people teasing you, we all have our personal opinions.Some of them sounds like my mum :p, just saying.
     
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    Sorry OP about all the old-timers here criticizing/judging/mocking you about your choice of a tattoo instead of helping you with your question. You seem to be more logical than many of the people here, so take their opinions with a grain of salt.
    Anywho, I don't know much about the tattoo healing process, but perhaps try a moisture resistant bandage over the tat while playing? Definitely ask your tattoo artist about it before you do it though.
     
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    Thanks, I thought about a bandage too. The artist will have to give me more advice I guess. Last consultation before I get the tat is Thursday. I'll post an update after that.
     
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    Here's the one I just got. I think it's manly.

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    Very manly. Good job
     
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    What's with tattooed tennis players? Why does everyone under 35 now have a tattoo?

    Count me with those who think the only people who should have tattoos are those in prison or the military, and maybe outlaw bikers. Computer nerds should not wear tattoos.
     
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    Better question is why do you care what someone has tattooed on themselves?
     
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    U can sweat, just rinse off after and apply non fragranced lotion. Cover it with something that won't irritate it while playing.

    I have a few tattoos and they healed extremely well, even though I played tennis and rock climbed during the week after getting each one.
     
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    It's fair to say I assume too much, but on the flipside, you also assume that people are immediately interested to talk about their inked work with others just because they have it visible/on their skin. To me, that's not an assumption i'm comfortable making. I'm not sure I follow your reasoning on "it makes me happy" is an analog to "it makes you look like an idiot." Care to explain?

    While I agree there CAN be some idiocy associated with getting/having a tattoo, I'm sure you don't mean that there is some component of idiocy involved with all who have one. Quite frankly, the way I see it is that the relative amount of time we spend alive and free willed and free spirited on the earth is extremely, extremely short. Even if you live to be 80, one generally won't even make a blip on the radar of human achievement or time. Concerning ones-self too much with something as relatively unimportant as whether or not someone else decided to get a tattoo is silly in my eyes. Whether or not I agree or disagree with the practice is besides the point. I DO agree 100% that there are many dummies out in the world, and some of those dummies get tattoos, and some of those dummies even lend a bad name to the practice. I think the act of getting a tattoo aside from the stigma and bias and stereotypes is pretty sterile and not worth getting riled up over. [Note: I'm not implying you are getting riled up, I'm referring to the general outburst(s) of disapproval]

    Your mention of getting to know/understand a person better, though, stuck with me. That can definitely be a positive. However, if a tattoo is personal, I'm not comfortable with some stranger just walking up and asking about it. For instance: Let's say that an individual was beaten as a child, and is covered in scars. After dealing with the emotional trauma via therapy, or what have you, they decide they are willing to move on, forgive, and grow. They decide to get (a) tattoo(s) to visually cover up the constant reminders of their painful past, and venture out into their world, invigorated by this new sense of triumph and self improvement.

    Most common question/comment by strangers: "Cool tattoo/I like your tattoo, what does it mean? Does it represent something?"

    Man. If I were that dude, I wouldn't know what to say. I'd probably say something like: "Ah, it doesn't mean anything in particular. I just like the way it looks" (or something). It's easier that way ;) If it were me, and the tattoo was deeply meaningful, I think it would feel personally cheap to describe the tattoo to someone else in a 30 second conversation. For instance, if I had a loved one pass away, and I got a memorial tattoo, I would hate for the "idea" of my tattoo to boil down to: "I got this because X died and they are important to me." (Again, all of the above is if the tattoo is meaningful. Not all are.)

    Back to the discussion, though. I fully agree that people judge. It's a very safe statement. Things wouldn't get done if people were to sit around and listen to every angle before making any decisions. It's naive to think someone can be purely non-judgmental. We all have biases and make assumptions. Our worlds would fall apart otherwise, IMO. Appearances don't escape this mantra. I don't blame anyone for assuming anything about a tattooed individual, but as long as we can agree that people get tattoos for different reasons, and the personal meaning is hugely varied, as well as the ability/capacity to concisely and/or accurately explain it, then I don't have much else to contribute to the discussion. Also, you make it sound like "adjusting" to society is a good thing ;) While I disagree with sticking out just 'cuz, the majority/average/accepted image/person is really not something I feel any need to be. I think it's safe to say we're talking in different ranges of the idea, but I don't think different needs to be bad. [Most oustanding individuals did just that. They stood out. Many famous inventors/artists/etc are/were eccentric, and some were even downright mentally ill!]

    In any event, that's why I posed the question about finding out about a parent's hidden tattoo. When your image/understanding of someone is so deep, something like this fades away in terms of things that actually matter to you. However, it's nearly impossible to forge a relationship with a stranger in a capacity that is even remotely comparable. This is why I think jumping to conclusions is hurtful. Indeed, you may miss a chance on a good thing, but ink is a barrier whether we like to admit it or not. In any event, I appreciate hearing your side of the story :)

    Come on, now, that's naive. You have to ignore and/or forgive those who jump to conclusions, though. People need to have some sort of idea of how to live their lives, otherwise they'd be flailing around in fear. I'd focus more on being the person you've predetermined you'll be, and don't let it phase you. I don't want to start the liberal vs. conservative (not politically, but just in general) debate, but the bias on either side is based on irrational fear, either way. Liberals are scared they'll miss out on the what-if/unexplored, and conservatives are scared of the what-if/unfamiliar/unexplored. Obviously an overly simplified world view (which doesn't accurately represent my viewpoint, either...). Be prepared to be judged, just be willing to give a second chance if you are hoping to get one in return. Judging those who judge and immediately shutting them out (saying they "aren't people I'd really like to be around anyways") is no better. With THAT said, I think it's important not to waste your short time on earth by surrounding yourself with negativity (and if you read closely, I'm not suggesting that), but to not dismiss others because they don't see eye to eye with you. I personally think discussing things with someone who disagrees with you (provided you are able to do so without resulting to the inevitable spitting match) is a very valuable thing!

    Why is it justified to have a tattoo if you're current/former military? I can see why you chose outlaw bikers and prison if you are already decidedly against it, though. Did a military person "earn" it? What is the criterion? Simply being "tough?"
     
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  49. Jonas

    Jonas Semi-Pro

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    Word to the wise: Don't do it.....

    Went to get a tennis tat when i was 19.....was DEAD SET...no one could change my mind...... for whatever reason, i decided against it at the last miute..

    One of the best decisions, i've ever made...
    Think about it all the time!
     
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  50. WildVolley

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    I don't care that much. I just find it aesthetically displeasing and rather odd.

    A bunch of the guys I play tennis with have tattoos. I don't comment on their tattoos and they don't ask me about them. That doesn't mean I don't have an opinion, and don't find the whole tattoo fad somewhat mystifying.

    I bet there's going to be a lot of money made on tattoo removal services.
     
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