New Tsonga Racquet?

Discussion in 'Pros' Racquets and Gear' started by estigma2001, Sep 17, 2013.

  1. estigma2001

    estigma2001 Professional

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2009
    Messages:
    1,248
    Location:
    Lima, Peru
    He´s playing with this in the Moselle Open
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
    #1
  2. ArliHawk

    ArliHawk Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2012
    Messages:
    2,289
    Babolat Pure Strike
     
    #2
  3. estigma2001

    estigma2001 Professional

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2009
    Messages:
    1,248
    Location:
    Lima, Peru
    looks like a Wilson frame!
     
    #3
  4. SuperDuy

    SuperDuy Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2009
    Messages:
    2,518
    new bab frame
     
    #4
  5. Babolast

    Babolast Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2007
    Messages:
    5,989
    Wow that looks really cool!
     
    #5
  6. Rock Strongo

    Rock Strongo Legend

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2010
    Messages:
    8,148
    Location:
    Sweden
    Just wait until you see it in person. Looks absolutely fantastic in the flesh.
     
    #6
  7. Lukhas

    Lukhas Legend

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2013
    Messages:
    7,156
    Location:
    France
    Seriously? Hope they exist in a Plus version. And hope they have more spin than the Ltd. Goddman that pattern is tight, despite the absolute sweetness that frame is. :neutral:
     
    #7
  8. gino

    gino Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2009
    Messages:
    3,017
    Location:
    Bay Area
    Hopefully the RA is under 70....
     
    #8
  9. ArliHawk

    ArliHawk Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2012
    Messages:
    2,289
    Gavna, what would you say it plays like?
     
    #9
  10. Phantasm

    Phantasm New User

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2013
    Messages:
    77
    Didn't know he was making the change to the Pure strike.

    Matching with the Adidas orange on his outfit too.
     
    #10
  11. Lack

    Lack Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2013
    Messages:
    223
    Looks pretty cool. Hope it comes out soon.
     
    #11
  12. Lukhas

    Lukhas Legend

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2013
    Messages:
    7,156
    Location:
    France
    How is the spin compared to the PS Ltd? I'll wait until I destroy my frames for the moment, especially if there isn't a Plus version. EDIT: Especially since Tsonga is known for using "Plus" frames. Indeed, him using it at the USO would've been an excellent marketing move by Babolat. Too bad it went by the window, but nice thinking.
     
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2013
    #12
  13. ultradr

    ultradr Legend

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2006
    Messages:
    5,821
    It is a boxy beam? I mean it is not like APD?
     
    #13
  14. Hankenstein

    Hankenstein Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2008
    Messages:
    1,509
    Location:
    on the red dirt of Europe
    I have this new frame at home in the tour version that i presume Tsonga use. It´s very stiff with an RA touching around 70 but it´s a really solid frame. Good power, good control.

    Only downside imo is that it has to be strung fairly tight. Recommendation was somewhere around 26-27 KGS. First it was strung with Xcel black at around 27 kgs and played like a dream.
    Then i strung it with Signum Pro Tornado in 22 kgs and it was not feeling so great anymore. Dont go to low with this new frame is my recomendation
     
    #14
  15. jayserinos99

    jayserinos99 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    2,945
    Why do you say that Hankenstein?
     
    #15
  16. oest10

    oest10 Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2008
    Messages:
    519
    Location:
    the Netherlands
    As if Tsonga is changing too a whole new racket.. He's just endorsing the new one by the use of a paintjob. It might still be different from his APD13, but then again, that wasn't the same APD13 that we buy in store either.
     
    #16
  17. Lukhas

    Lukhas Legend

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2013
    Messages:
    7,156
    Location:
    France
    Have you ever seen an APD? It has a very distinctive mould. Like, very, very distinctive. It's really unique. Painting the Strike, which has a more boxy beam onto an APD would make one really obvious of a paint job. He could've requested a stick with similar specs, but painting an APD frame like any other Bab frame is stupid. Too obvious. Maybe not on blurry TV, but it's not rocket science either if you have a close enough picture. Even the Pure Drive has quite the unique mould, although it's a bit more easily to disguise.
     
    #17
  18. realplayer

    realplayer Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2007
    Messages:
    619
    Counting the strings might help too if you wanna find out what Tsonga is using.
     
    #18
  19. Lukhas

    Lukhas Legend

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2013
    Messages:
    7,156
    Location:
    France
    More like looking at the yoke/bridge. Strikes seem to have a 8 string bridge if we refer to prototypes we've seen here and there, while the APD has a 6 string bridge. He could perfectly have a 16/19 frame with an 8n string bridge. Not very common but it exists. The new Blade 98 2013 has an 8 string bridge in its 16/19 version, there's a bit less space between the 8 center mains than the other ones.
     
    #19
  20. raging

    raging Professional

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2009
    Messages:
    1,359
    wow, Gav you must have a great Babolat contract!

    We are not (supposed) to sell the racquets under our contract terms.

    Having said that, most pros here are doing it!:twisted:

    Glad Tsonga is back playing, he could play with anything, just hope he stays... healthy!
     
    #20
  21. oest10

    oest10 Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2008
    Messages:
    519
    Location:
    the Netherlands
    I play APD 13's , thank you. I never said that he painted the APD to look like a strike. Obviously that would be easy to spot. I'm just saying he is probably using a frame customized for him, more boxed of a frame than he was using of course, painted to look like a new Pure Strike. Read carefully Ash.
     
    #21
  22. tom_ten

    tom_ten New User

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2010
    Messages:
    22
    #22
  23. dr325i

    dr325i Legend

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2007
    Messages:
    6,579
    Location:
    TX
    First, YES, Tsonga did play with the retail stick. Probably customized to his specs, but the retail (unlike Nadal and a few others).
    Second, the shape of the one in the pictures has nothing to do with the APD.
     
    #23
  24. raging

    raging Professional

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2009
    Messages:
    1,359
    sorry mate!
    But you were the one who posted it on the internet...
    keep your identity...private:twisted:
     
    #24
  25. raging

    raging Professional

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2009
    Messages:
    1,359
    No worries Gav! It's all Tsonga.

    no problem...just pulling your leg.

    I hit with the Pure Strike 305g 18/20 today & quite liked it.
    It was from distributor & strung quite snug @59/58lbs with RPM Blast.
    I would probably hybrid it with Xcel.

    But everybody has to pick their own string, weight & set-up.
    Going to hit with the 320g version tomorrow.

    Pleased obviously that Tsonga is back & I think the racket will be a good fit.
    I'm sure Babolat is hoping he can Slam with it!
     
    #25
  26. Babolast

    Babolast Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2007
    Messages:
    5,989
    Anyone know when this stick will come out?
     
    #26
  27. raging

    raging Professional

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2009
    Messages:
    1,359
    Depends on what country your are in,
    I have heard anywhere between November to December in US.
    Ask Daniel in Babolat Official thread, he may be able to tell you.
     
    #27
  28. crosscourt

    crosscourt Professional

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2004
    Messages:
    1,285
    Does this racket have the Aero throat? At one point there was supposed to be a replacement for the Aero Storm. Is this it?
     
    #28
  29. Babolat Official

    Babolat Official Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2012
    Messages:
    2,597
    Location:
    Louisville, Colorado
    Sorry to burst your bubble, Jo is using a weighted/customized version of the one you will be able to demo.
     
    #29
  30. Babolat Official

    Babolat Official Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2012
    Messages:
    2,597
    Location:
    Louisville, Colorado
    Most of Europe in Dec. US will be Jan 2014.
     
    #30
  31. Bdarb

    Bdarb Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2012
    Messages:
    1,536
    Location:
    New England
    does the new strike have the cortex handle?
     
    #31
  32. byealmeens

    byealmeens Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2005
    Messages:
    478
    Anybody have close-up pictures they can post?? This frame looks awesome.
     
    #32
  33. crosscourt

    crosscourt Professional

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2004
    Messages:
    1,285
    Very interesting. And is the new line as comfortable as the new APD? I think the latest upgrade is a huge step forward in that respect.
     
    #33
  34. raging

    raging Professional

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2009
    Messages:
    1,359
    yes, it is quite a stick!
    Trying to keep it real with Tsonga as I really hope he makes a big tear at Oz Open.
    he is overdue.
     
    #34
  35. dgoran

    dgoran Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2004
    Messages:
    2,591
    No he will not I hate misinformation...or misleading posts... tsonga is using extended racquet as afaik there will be no extended version for now so good luck for mere mortals "customizing" retail stick to use what tsonga is using. Missed opportunity for Babolat to bring exactly what tsonga is using to retail...Average "Jo" might not know the difference but talk tennis folks will :)
     
    #35
  36. estigma2001

    estigma2001 Professional

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2009
    Messages:
    1,248
    Location:
    Lima, Peru
    #36
  37. Roger Wawrinka

    Roger Wawrinka Professional

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2012
    Messages:
    1,064
    Location:
    So Cal
    New babolat frame!!
     
    #37
  38. estigma2001

    estigma2001 Professional

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2009
    Messages:
    1,248
    Location:
    Lima, Peru
    i read that is more control oriented with enough power and spin!
     
    #38
  39. Lukhas

    Lukhas Legend

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2013
    Messages:
    7,156
    Location:
    France
    Because the Hyper ProStaff 6.5 he used to use under a [K]Blade PJ was extended maybe?
     
    Last edited: Sep 19, 2013
    #39
  40. estigma2001

    estigma2001 Professional

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2009
    Messages:
    1,248
    Location:
    Lima, Peru
    #40
  41. Nostradamus

    Nostradamus G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2011
    Messages:
    17,566
    Location:
    In the future
    how does it compare to his old aeropro plus frame. More power, less power, same extended length ?
     
    #41
  42. Automatix

    Automatix Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2007
    Messages:
    3,189
    Location:
    Poland
    AFAIK his HPS6.5 and APD were 27,5 inches long. I'm not sure about the [K]obra Tour mold he used just before switching to Babolat.

    However I doubt he'd just switch to a standard length frame.
    I'm with dgoran on this one. Why mislead? Especially here where most of us know about paintjobing, false advertising etc. This is a common, yet sad, practice.

     
    #42
  43. Lukhas

    Lukhas Legend

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2013
    Messages:
    7,156
    Location:
    France
    The APD is. The HPS isn't, or at least not stock. So who actually knows?
     
    #43
  44. dgoran

    dgoran Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2004
    Messages:
    2,591
    It was 27.5...

    These were the specs...
    Grip 4 5/8
    Pattern 18x20
    Headsize 95sq. In/613cm
    Weight 328g (unstrung)
    Balance 32.7cm
    Length 27.5in
     
    #44
  45. Lukhas

    Lukhas Legend

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2013
    Messages:
    7,156
    Location:
    France
    There I stand corrected.
     
    #45
  46. madmanfool

    madmanfool Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2006
    Messages:
    569
    Finally he is playing with a more boxy frame again. I could never understand his switch to the APD. Shame he wasted so many years with that racquet..
     
    #46
  47. ProRadTour

    ProRadTour Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2012
    Messages:
    219
    Must have been the contract Babolat offered was to good to refuse.
     
    #47
  48. Lukhas

    Lukhas Legend

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2013
    Messages:
    7,156
    Location:
    France
    He also stated in a French interview to want to have more impact and less spin in his game. I think both parties had something to gain: Tsonga gained money and a frame more suited to "flat hitters" while Bab' gained some visibility for this new line. Win-win.
     
    #48
  49. dgoran

    dgoran Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2004
    Messages:
    2,591
    Reportedly same with Verdasco...
     
    #49
  50. Nostradamus

    Nostradamus G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2011
    Messages:
    17,566
    Location:
    In the future
    If this racket is so good then why did he lose to Simon ?
     
    #50

Share This Page