New Tsonga Racquet?

Discussion in 'Pros' Racquets and Gear' started by estigma2001, Sep 17, 2013.

  1. Babolat Official

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    Sorry, incorrect. Jerzy is testing the Pure Strike 100 (100 in head).
     
  2. dgoran

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    My point was that they were wrong even more so if you know that he is testing 100 version... they had this whole discussion how he is now using smaller head size (they assumed he switched from 100 aeropro drive to a smaller head racquet and we all know that was not the case...
     
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    hey, jersy looked really good today. his serve is just as effective and his groundies seem to have more control than before. Rafa played some insane tennis, even by his standards today so he won but any other day, Jersey would have came back and won this match
     
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    These guys are pretty good.
     
  5. raging

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    yes, not bad but I love their racket choices:)
     
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    And will be in New Zealand by winter/mid year 2014. Damn continental differences!
     
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    That's insane.......Australia gets them Dec 1.
     
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    Darn Australians and their earlier release dates! I gotta get my hands on one of these bad boys.
     
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    December 2013: worldwide (not US)
    January 2014: US

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    2014: select markets world wide

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    Apparently i just found out my coach got his hands on a Pure Strike today in the states! I'm stoked to go see how it hits tonight.
     
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    Tsonga has told us (as of today) he will be playing with the Pure Strike 100 in 2014.

    Jo has a custom handle shape (and maybe a plus, need to confirm) and adds weight to the frames. Other than that, same mold, drill pattern, beam, etc. as the stock Pure Strike 100.

    I will work on getting the custom specs and post them if his team approves.
     
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    That's really awesome! Thanks for keeping us in the know. I'd love to see if he keeps his spec the same, especially since he had a pretty slick playing set up in the APD+.

    -Fuji
     
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    I got to hit with the pure strike 100 today. That racquet is pretty sweet. It feels like you can just absolutely carve and manipulate the ball. I think it might be a total monster with some weight added. But even in stock form in felt good.
     
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    I got to try the Pure Strike 98 a couple days ago.
    I couldn't do it. I'm so used to my 2013 APD that the flex on the Pure Strike was killing me.
    I was just bouncing the ball with the racquet and it literally felt like the racquet was bending.
    Maybe it's because i've gotten so accustomed to my APD with such little flex, but once you're used to that it's extremely hard to switch.
    I thought the Pure Strike would be somewhat similar to the APD if both Tsonga and Janowicz switched to it so easily, man was i wrong.
    To each his own, but that racquet was not for me.
     
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    I think I'm leaning towards this as well. I even had my Strike 100 matched to my APD (swing weight, static, etc.).

    Couldn't make the switch. APD for life.
     
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    Sorry if this has been asked already, but has there been any thought to releasing a heavier 100 strike ?
     
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    I want to say that you rock if you are able to post specs. Proof that Babolat really gets it when it comes to marketing. It really means a lot to us tennis geeks hereon tt..

    BTW are you able to get specs for Jerzy aerostorm
    Verdasco Aeropro and some other Babolat pros. like troicki and Kenny de Schepper
     
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    We thought the heavier 16x19 (98) would be in higher demand than the 100...but after seeing the pro players and initial consumer reaction, we'll have to reconsider and discuss.

    I agree, 100 is a great frame but needs weight (I had mine matched to a 2-13 APD, then bumped to 305 g)
     
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    What's the power level like on the Strike 100, similar to a Blade?

    My buddy hit with the 98 18X20 the other day and described it as blade like but easier to swing.
     
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    We've never disguised the fact our players customize: weight, swing weight, handle shape.

    And if we didn't...would anyone believe Jo was playing with a 290 gram 100 in frame?

    I've sent another request to the proper channels for the following:

    (static weight, swing weight, balance)
    Nadal APD
    Tsonga APD
    Tsonga Strike 100
    Jerzy Aerostorm
    Troicki Aerostorm
    Querrey APD
     
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    The 100 needs mass. Ball feel and sensation is great but 290 unstrung is too light.

    The 18x20 is solid but I'm an open string pattern guy.
     
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    We don't sponsor Verdasco...
     
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    2014, or he needs to fire his agent
     
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    Agreed. However, the Pure Strike 100 has a potential to be a very nice racquet after some lead adjustment.
     
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    I didn't say he doesn't independently choose to use our racquets. But we do not sponsor him.
     
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    I've started a new thread for Babolat pro specs
     
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    Many people believe what the companies say.

    The fact is that Babolat deceives the public just as any other manufacturer.
    Just one example - Nadal and cortex.
    And we can go into more Babolat examples like Pure Controls under Pure Storm paintjobs etc. but why should we? It's a common practice, not an honest one, but common.

    Head went ahead and put a disclaimer on their site just to keep it on the safe side.

    I understand that people involved with a particular company can't really acknowledge officially that they deceive their customers, however I feel you really shouldn't try to twist everything around.
     
  28. Babolat Official

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    In my mind, there is a difference between pros using custom versions of the racquets you can actually buy (and in theory, can recreate with an RDC and some hard work) and creating entire new molds that the public can not purchase (custom racquet shapes, materials, drill patterns).

    Maybe they are the same in your opinion, but it is a point I think worth considering.
     
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    I completely agree. Babolat has been pretty good with giving consumers rackets that are almost the same as pro players, other than the Cortex PJ.
     
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    You have a valid point and to some extent I agree.

    However, Nadal does not use an APD with whatever Cortex, if it's an older version than it is also not just an APD GT without Cortex.

    If I'm not mistaken Roddick didn't use his signature frame but a second generation Pure Drive, right? Isn't selling a signature model which isn't actually used by the player dishonest?

    Racquet length. If a Pro uses an extended length racquet it is not extended from 27 inches but rather cut to size from the hairpin.

    As for the materials used. We actually don't know if in some cases layups are custom. You might write they are not however we won't know if you're telling the truth. I'm not saying you're dishonest, just involved, you're on the other side of the barricade. And because we don't have the means to actually verify your words you might as well state racquets are made with fairy dust.

    By your logic many companies are okay. Most Yonex players fit your criteria.
    Hewitt SRDT, so what if he played with it under a pj, it was available to the public, right?
    Nalbandian RDiS 100. So what if it was extended to 28 inches.


    I am actually a fan of lighter frames which can be tweaked to the desired specs by simple methods such as adding lead or silicone. However extending a racquet is a harder task, it is much easier to shorten a frame than to extend it.

    I don't want to argue, I don't envy you because the problem of paintjobing frames isn't something nice to talk about when you're from a racquet company.
     
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    If you want a custom handle (and weight, balance), call up ****, Priority1, etc. They do great work and are very friendly.

    I don't work for Yonex, so I can't speak to their practices. I'm not sure if they have a rep on the boards, but I would encourage asking them directly about their customization for pros (same goes for other manufacturers).
     
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    You've discarded what I wrote.

    I don't need a custom handle.
    I don't need P1 or **** to modify the weight, balance or swingweight. Anyone with a bit of knowledge and lead/silicone can do that. It's not rocket science.

    If Tsonga is using an extended (judging by his racquet history 27,5 inches) Strike mold of some sort I bet that the hairpin is cut to the 27,5 inches and it's not a 27 inch hairpin extended to 27,5 inches. So you can't get to his specs with just adding weight, changing a grip or whatever. That's what I'm getting at.

    Keep in mind I don't want a racquet with specs used by Nadal for example.
    These are the specs fitted for the particular pros' game not mine.

    What I'd like is to see companies who don't lie to their customers and I don't mean customization with lead. Nadal uses an APD, not an APD GT. Gonzalez didn't use a Pure Storm but a Pure Control+, Roddick used a Pure Drive+, not a Pure Drive Roddick+.
     
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    Go buy a Strike 100. Call Nate. You'll be able to replicate it.
     

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