New Video - How to weave crosses faster

Discussion in 'Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines' started by Irvin, Dec 20, 2011.

  1. jswinf

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    I want to try it, but I don't have a granddaughter to swipe beads from. My wife has a cultured-pearl necklace, do you think one of those would work? :confused:
     
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    Sweet I will try this right away.
     
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    Very nice, I learned a lot from your videos.

    Thanks.

    Xiaobo.
     
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    'mikeler' is a chicken Na-na-na-na Boo-boo. As long as you know what kind of beads you're looking for you should be able to find them just about anywhere. Some one said they picked them up at a Rite-Aid. You may want to try any department store or craft store. As long as you don't live in Cartersville it should be ok to try Walmart.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/01/walmart-needles-_n_1124199.html

    EDIT: If you can't find them locally you could always use the internet. Heck they are even on the big auction site no reason every one can't find them.
     
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    I'll find 'em, don't worry about this little chicken. :)
     
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    I mentioned this already, but a manly way to get a suitable tool is at the hardware store-- in the small parts bins are various sized spacers/standoffs, like little cylinders of all different sizes and diameters. This is the most expensive way to go, though, at 20cents each for nylon, much more for steel or aluminum. Steel would be the most manly!

    You can also get suitable beads on a cheap bracelet or necklace, I got mine at Rite Aide, ~15 for 1.50. But, the ones I got are spherical, which makes locating the hole more difficult. I didn't know about hair beads at the time, I'm sure they have them there. I'll check later today. Like my hardware store spacers, the slightly cylindrical shape of those beads should make keeping track of the opening easier/faster...
     
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  9. bigmalik76

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    Irvin,

    You are the man! thank you for sharing with us. I will definitely be giving this a try this weekend since I have 2 rackets that need to get strung.
     
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  10. Pro_Tour_630

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    Oh no :oops:another thing to lose and drop, save your money :)
     
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  11. PBODY99

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    Not unless they are strung on ~1.40mm string.:)
     
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    Genius!!!!
     
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    OP, the
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ9T8fWs7Ws&feature=youtu.be does not work at all. Could you post it again? Thanks.
     
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  15. adamX012

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    Thanks, it works this time. OP, you have a clear smooth voice. Love to have your granddaughter's beam. Are you a professional stringer by any chance?
     
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  16. Irvin

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    Thank you, I string a lot of rackets and I do get paid most of the time. I have been stringing since 1978 so I guess you could say I am a professional. It is more of a hobby to me though.
     
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  17. adamX012

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    You sound very professional to me. One thing to share with you. I pick up a sport of tennis for leisure only. I am really amazed by a few posters like you for instance to show your works to us. All I want to say is Good Job and Thank you!! Well, xmas eve is coming up less than a day. I wish you and your family including granddaughters have joyful holidays!
     
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  18. Irvin

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    Thanks you again. Happy holidays
     
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  19. GlenK

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    If you're a fisherman you probably have beads in your tackle box. I haven't tried this yet but do have plenty of glass beads in my tackle box.
     
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  20. Maui19

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    I tried this last night. The bead definitely makes weaving crosses faster, but for some reason I found I was mis-weaving a number of times. The bead I was using wasn't optimal, and I was in a hurry, so I finished the job the old fashioned way. Still, this shows so much promise that I will get a better bead and try again.
     
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  21. Irvin

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    That may work, depending on the diameter of the hole in the bead. I used a bead with a large hole and the string seems to go through with ease. The more friction you have the more damage you will do to the string. The Pony Bead is just about the right size I think being a small bead with a large hole.
     
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  22. rjw

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    haven't been around much lately....nicely done....but what took you so long to come up with this? :twisted:
     
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    I pull weave and I suck also. About 1 hour including cutting and unrolling the string. I really enjoy your viedos and teaching methods. I will try Wallmart tonight. Thanks
     
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  24. Irvin

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    Thank you, nice to see you are back. To tell you the truth I was stringing a racket the other day and by two granddaughters were playing with beads making bracelets. They're 3 and 4 years old. I was trying to pull weave just to see if I could and didn't like the result. I thought what if I had something better to hold the string so it would not slide through my fingers and still allowed the string to pass through without binding up. Then I noticed the beads. If I knew grandchildren were going to give me these ideas and be so much fun I would have had them first and then I would have had this idea 30 years ago.
     
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  25. rjw

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    Maybe the next Stringway product? lol

    Good show...and have a wonderful holiday!!!!
     
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  26. tes

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    Great tip Irvin! Thanks much. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
     
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  27. Irvin

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    I was in Dollar Tree today looking for last minute gag stocking stuffers. What did I find but a package of 400 Pony Beads. They did not have a price on them though so I was going to yell, "Price check on isle 3." Then I remembered where I was. LOL

    EDIT: There is nothing wrong with that just in case someone wants to correct me they sound the same. I didn't say I was going to spell it out. LOL
     
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  28. Power Player

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    Got a huge Pack of pony beads. Michaels is the place to go.

    Bead technique works great. I am whizzing through crosses now on the weaves. With practice I should be at 35 minutes a stick.
     
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  29. zapvor

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    hmm......i am already pretty decent weaving crosses push weaving. dont need any more help. i sound like such a azzhole posting this:p
     
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  30. mad dog1

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    just got back from michaels...picked up 50 beads for $1.99. will try it on my next racquet. thanks, Irvin!
     
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  31. Irvin

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    I posted this for those who were having trouble with weaving. I see that a lot for those new to stringing. I can push weave faster too but until I get down near the bottom especially with a poly. it does not seem to get bent up as bad.
     
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  32. sundaypunch

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    Cool story bro....
     
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  33. KerryR

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    I've mentioned this before, but I'll say it again: The bead trick is particularly helpful with stiff poly's and/or hard weaves (on any string), particularly later in the stringbed, and especially useful with the poly-oriented JET method, where you weave the next cross while the previous is left under tension. While this can be done 'one ahead' (really 2 ahead; one cross under tension and 'resting', the next cross already woven (done when it was a soft weave), then the next soft woven), I find it cleaner to hard-weave using the bead-- helps avoid multiple loops outside the hoop that seem to enjoy catching on things.
     
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  34. mad dog1

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    i need to stick a piece of clay to my machine to hold the bead. otherwise i'm wasting time fumbling around in the tool tray for an elusive, round, roly, poly bead. :)
     
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    I usually weave all of the crosses before pulling...saves me about 5 mins, mostly from the last 3 or 4 crosses
     
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  37. mad dog1

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    yeah, i think clay allows for easier access. stick a piece of museum clay on the turntable or tower to use as a bead holder. otherwise you need to look for the string, slide the bead off...the string can get tangled up w/ the other tools in the tool tray. i've got starting clamps, cutters and pliers in my tool tray - all of which have handles to get caught up in string.

    with the bead stuck to a wad of clay on the tower, the bead is always at your fingertips. here's a better idea...apply 2 wads of clay - one to each tower. this way you always have a bead close by regardless of the position of the turntable as you rotate from one side to the next as you thread crosses.
     
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    Let's see..... shoe strings, beads, clay...just waiting for the next evolution, tie it around one of grandma's old dull sewing needles, wouldn't that work? :)

    You know Stringway offers a real cross stringing tool to help with this problem, and it has additional benefits...reduced friction...no twisting of shaped strings...no sore fingers.
     
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  40. jswinf

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    ^^^So what fun is that??
     
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  41. Ronaldo

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    The bead is best where the Stringway Cross Stringer fears to tread. The final few crosses.
     
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  42. Irvin

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    Don't forget the hard weaves, the first few crosses, and the top half of the racket in a 50/50 pattern.

    EDIT: Did I mention the bead is cheaper, it comes with lots of spares, and assorted colors.
     
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    LOL.....:) must be new in town the bead is real.....!!
     
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  44. Irvin

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    Great idea thanks

    I had the same problem so I took a piece of nylon braided twine (about 4') and put a bead on it and tied it into a loop. I looped the string around the handle of the racket and it is long enough to thread through the strings. I run the strung through and put the string through the bead and pull it through the the nylon twine. Pull the string out and let the bead fall it is right there on the string for the next cross.

    Don't run the string through the twine as the bead will try to hold the string from going through.
     
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  45. zapvor

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    right. yea i guess most of us here are home stringers so this is helpful. but for me and you who string at a shop i think our customers have a tad higher standards....so to speak. didnt mean any offense sorry
     
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  46. mad dog1

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    yeah, since the hole in the bead is plenty big enough, i was thinking of adding a short loop of twine to the bead to make it easier to grab. as long as it's short enough i can weave the bead along w/ the loop of twine that it doesn't get caught in the strings. but the potential of accidentally threading the string thru the loop of twine remains so i came up w/ idea to use a glob of clay to hold the bead. the clay keeps things cleaner though. no extra loop of twine for the string to accidentally thread your string through. just the bead. when you're done using the bead, just stick it back in the glob of clay. i was trying to keep things as stupid proof as possible. :idea::cool:
     
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    I don't string at a shop and never have.
     
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  48. parasailing

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    Thanks Irvin for such a great tip! This will save me probably 10 minutes and not to mention, I might string my poly crosses more often with this tip. Time to find some beads to test it out to see how long it will take.
     
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  49. mad dog1

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    it didn't save me much time, but it certainly does make the hard weaves and the final few crosses easier. :)
     
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    Yes, the Stringway tools have no real downside except for that measly $140 you have to spend to buy them.
     

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