New Video - How to weave crosses faster

Discussion in 'Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines' started by Irvin, Dec 20, 2011.

  1. zapvor

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    again you miss my point. yes, the tip may make it easier/faster/whatever, but i am saying if you do just practice the normal way, eventually it will be easier/faster anyways. see my previous post on the bicycle anaology please.

    i wasnt criticizing at all. where did you get that? i merely said i would not use this method and said why i wont. i did not say i will start a thread i said i might if i feel i have something to contribute but it seems everyone here is pretty content with the bead method, so i am fine with that
     
  2. zapvor

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    ok i think you got it. yea i make a comment about me not using the tip and everyone is jumping in asserting that i was criticizing, etc. i was merely pointing out my take on the matter. why do you guys care lol i am not some famous stringer
     
  3. stoo

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    Absolutely brilliant tip Irvin.

    I tried it this morning on a string job and it worked awesome.

    Thanks for sharing.
     
  4. i3602u

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    I strung my racquet this afternoon and yes it worked awesome thanks for sharing Irvin
     
  5. Baloo

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    Tried this out yesterday and it made poly crosses a breeze!

    Nice one Irvin.

    Not sure if it has been noted but I found it much easier to pull rather than push.
     
  6. Irvin

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    ^^Yes I only use the bead for pulling myself and not pushing.
     
  7. LMW

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    Irvin,

    Thank you for sharing.
     
  8. stoo

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    I did another string job this afternoon using this method, and it was the fastest I've ever completed a racquet. Not to mention the fact that my finger tips are a heck of a lot less sore than normal.

    Once again, thanks for sharing this great tip!
     
  9. Kam2010

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    Too many simpletons on this board.

    Irvin thank you ver much for the video.

    Sharing is caring
     
  10. sundaypunch

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    Yes, but it's really not necessary. If you would just spend hundreds of hours practicing your speed would improve and your fingers would be nicely calloused (/sarcasm).
     
  11. Ronaldo

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    Hundred of stringjobs? Forgetaboutit Used to buy a cheap Nylon reel every spring and string daily just to get in the groove. Lost that weaving feeling
     
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  13. Irvin

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    I would not suggest doing that. You will have someone buying a 15L guage reel for $16 and wondering why they have so much trouble. Don't get me wrong the string is not bad but if you have a large gauge and small soft grommets it makes weaving quite a bit more difficult.
     
  14. Ronaldo

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    Tried using thimbles but really all thumbs with 15L.
     
  15. zapvor

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    hehe thats nice of you to mock all those pro stringers out there who put in their time and callouses. i guess thats why they are pros and you are just a amateur at best on a message board:)
     
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    Do you have mental problems? I am serious.
     
  17. sundaypunch

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    Again, you completely miss the point. Irvin's tip was not meant for a grand slam stringer. It's meant to make things a bit easier for the average person that has neither the time nor inclination to string racquets all day long.

    "Just keep practicing, you'll get faster" has been the extent of your valuable input here. Really? Any simpleton would already understand that without a reminder (let alone multiple reminders).
     
  18. zapvor

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    exactly. hence my saying that people here should not use that method because they will lose out on the practice a la bike training wheels. but yea we are all amateurs here. carry on.
     
  19. sundaypunch

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    I'm going to bow out here and just go with this.
     
  20. nalvarado

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    I tried the bead method for stringing full RIP 17 this morning. I did not get as much as I expected out of it. I could weave faster by hand but I could definitely see myself using the bead to save my fingers on a full poly job.
     
  21. Power Player

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    I only use it for full poly..for weaving other types of string I do not need it, but on full poly it is amazing. I am under 40 minutes stringing now.
     
  22. KerryR

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    Full poly is where I find the method most helpful as well. Seconded by any hard weaves. Also always useful for the last 2 or 3 crosses.
     
  23. euchoulis

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    Smart idea...
    Can you try a video where you pull the hard weave using the string and the next weave using the bead and see how fast it goes?
     
  24. Irvin

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    I guess I could try but I NEVER have a hard weave unless I am stringing an old Prince Vortex racket. When do you ever have a hard weave?
     
  25. KerryR

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    I often hard weave when doing JET with poly, where the next cross is woven while the previous is being held under tension while the string relaxes. You can, of course, do the same thing 2 ahead and avoid the hard weaves, but the bead essentially makes that unnecessary because it's really no harder to weave hard than soft when using the bead method.

    As an aside, I like leaving the previous string under tension while weaving, whether one ahead or not, because it holds the racket in place while you weave.
     
  26. EdVin70

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    Brilliant!
     
  27. Irvin

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    When I think of hard weaves I think of some ATW patterns. If you weave the bottom cross first and the next to bottom last you will end up with a hard weave. So I guess it really depends on what is considered a hard weave.
     
  28. Xpherex

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    Great tut, I'm going to try this as doing crosses with poly for me from half of the racket is very hard. They are hardly goes.
    thanks Irvin
     
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    I couldn't find any beads in the house but I did find some old fishing tackle and grabbed one of the pill shaped foam spacers on the rig. Worked pretty well until the last few crosses. No misweaves
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  30. BlxTennis

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    Irvin, I do not consider myself fast cross weaving but if I combine your string method & the bead method, I ended up only need to weave the last 2 strings near the end. The time may turns out the same but at least it saves my finger skin especially on texted strings. Combining both works out pretty good.
     
  31. Ronaldo

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    Use the bead method and discovered my push weaving without a bead has improved greatly. So much so that I only use the bead on poly or on the last two crosses. May change my tune when stringing 18 main racquets.
     
  32. nacolo

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    For the last few crosses, recently I used the needle nose plier.
    It may seems slower but easy on my fingers to weave poly.
    Anyone else used needle nose plier to weave ?
     
  33. Irvin

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    There was a guy on the a GSS fast stringing video that used pliers to pull all the crosses through on his racket.
     
  34. Power Player

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    I'm still beading. I find this to be pretty awesome for stringing a gut/poly hybrid.
     
  35. KerryR

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    I can't tell from the video exactly how he does it; I'm confused by the fact that both of his hands are on top, instead of one atop and one below... Assuming we're talking about the same video.

    I use the bead on full-polys, but I use needlenose on the last cross.
     
  36. nacolo

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    May I have the link of the video if you have it.

    Thanks
     
  37. Irvin

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    Yes that is the video that I remember but I have no idea of what the link is now.
     
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    What now? Let me tell you what now. I'ma call a hard, pipe-hittin' stringer, who'll go to work on the sticks here with a pair of pliers and latex gloves. You hear me talkin', poly breakin' boy? I ain't through with you by a d*mn sight. I'ma get medieval on your racquets.
     
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    You're sending the Irvin? Shiiiiiaaat that's all you had to say, Ronaldo!



    The bead method looks great. I'm headed to Wally World today on a bead run.

    thanks, irving ;)
     
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    I don't see it but if he is using a bead more power to him.

    EDIT: I stoped the video at 0:33 and he is weaving holding the tip of the string. I don't think the bead method will work on the tip like that.
     
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  43. 1HandedBackhand

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    My bad then, I thought there was something red between his fingers and the string was kind of wound up (kind of a small loop). Any how its a excellent idea for poly.
     
  44. Ronaldo

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    Could it be a Gorilla tip?
     
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    What is a Gorilla tip?
     
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  48. Irvin

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    You want the string to slip through the bead so that when you get to the other side the tip of the string is about to come through the bead. Then take off the bead and put the string through the grommet.

    EDIT: If the string does not slip through the bead you will have to pull two strings through the crosses. You don't want to do that only the tip do you want being pulled through the mains.
     
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  49. taurussable

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    watched the video again. understood. thx!
     
  50. KoaUka

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    Just wanted to say thanks again Irvin for this great tip. I like to use it for the last few crosses.
     

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