new wood racquets

Discussion in 'Classic Racquet Talk' started by zcarzach, May 15, 2012.

  1. zcarzach

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    So, this might not fit in here in Classic Racquet Talk forum, but I suspect that you guys are the only ones who will appreciate what I'm attempting. I'm planning to prototype a new wood racquet, based on an old busted Maxply I have. I am a furniture maker by trade with a love for the old wood racquets. So, I'm going to "deconstruct" this old Maxply and make a new one based on it in my workshop here in Charlotte, MI.

    I was just wondering if anyone had tried this. I think I have solutions for how I'm going to do each step (hence the word prototype). I'm currently looking for a source for graphite sheet of the proper thickness for "reinforcement". I've been researching "real tennis" racquets and have a good grasp of the steps involved. Doesn't seem like it will be that difficult, given my background. I plan to shoot lots of pics, if you guys are interested. If this is successful, I may try a Kramer Pro Staff next...

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    Zach
     
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  2. KneisslDestroyer

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    just make it in the same mold as the Puma Boris Becker super model, layer some graphite over it an Voila!
     
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  3. firefox

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    I had thought of making an 85 sq in wooden racquet with mono shaft design, sandwiched with carbon sheets, but the final weight would be a little too much for today's playing style. :(
     
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  4. zcarzach

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    you know, if I had one to work from, I'd consider trying it at some point. I'm using the Maxply because I have one that I won't mind reverse engineering.

    Yeah, I don't think too many people would be interested in having one, except me and a few other nuts. This isn't commercial, purely for me as I couldn't make them cheap enough to make people want to buy them. I'm planning a standard size so I don't have to try to figure out the string pattern (can just copy what I have already).
     
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  5. Staidhup

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    Funny, when I get in a tennis funk, I pull out my old Maxply and hit against the ball machine. Boy have we come a long ways! Years ago I hit with my daughter, all she could say is no wonder your shoulder is a mess.
     
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  7. goober

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    Didn't prokennex have a racquet series with a wood core in the center surrounded by graphite? I think the models were actually called "core" and they had differing numbers based on specs. It seems it was about 5 years ago or so.
     
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  8. KneisslDestroyer

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    i actually owned and played with the mid-size jack kramer that had inlays of graphite in it...Wilson put out a midsize version that had the single throat design still, just a bigger hoop with graphite laid in it, the things was soo heavy and I recall it breaking pretty quickly or warping for some reason.
     
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    I still have one, I think I bought it in 86. Mine is a 4 5/8 L, 26 7/8" long, 13.25 ounces, seems to be even balance. I also measured my Advantage, which is a 4 3/4 Medium, 27 1/8" long, 13.75 ounces, about 3.5 points head light. The stiffness on these has to be in the 40s at best. I'll occasionally hit with them after a match when my opponent and I still have court time.
     
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  11. michaelscoots

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    This sounds like a fun project. One thing I would recommend is trying out various woods first. My brother and I have been playing with woods almost exclusively since the end of February. I've found that the lights are easier to work in modern technique. I'm enjoying the wood so much that it's hard for me to go back to my K90's! And I'm getting plenty of pace and spin...but the control. It's out of this world!

    Good luck and keep us posted!
     
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    truly ! scoop these up ... the moment wood left tennis all was gone period eg. the great wood & guys who put them together ... all for sure.
     
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  14. michaelscoots

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    Bares a close resemblance to the Jack Kramer Prostaff. Does it also play similar? I wonder if you can specify weight (Light or medium)?
     
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  15. Don't Let It Bounce

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    Did Lacoste ever release that 2012 Wood-Graphite beauty they announced?
     
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    very cool. will follow your progress, and good luck!
     
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  17. GoSurfBoy

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    I build guitars, furniture, boats, etc., and if I were going to build a racket, I'd do a remake of a Prince 'Woodie' in a 95". That frame is STILL one of the most remarkable frames ever produced; spin, power, dwell, silky smooth, and not a whisper of arm-problems. Use a Head or Volkl full cap' grommet for reference, too.

    Buy them on the Bay for $20 and deconstruct THAT, let me know, I'll rep' for you and I'll buy 5 or 6 in a 95 version for myself.

    With Prince in Bankruptcy, maybe they'll sell the plans for $10 for some working capital?
     
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  18. joe sch

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    Believe its the same frame as the JK Auto Mid.
     
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  19. struggle

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    warp-proof prince woody, please. ha!

    cool project, keep us posted, pics and all.
     
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  20. aerogami

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    You might try using some bamboo in the design - strong, flexible, easy to laminate, less prone to warpage, etc.
     
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  22. joe sch

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    Nice looking woody but I prefer the traditional crosses/mains stringing since I feel the "mad raq" dense pattern takes away from the feel and control, ie plays boardy
     
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    I used to go up to Charlotte to spend money (a lot) at LL Johnson Lumber when I lived in Michigan...

    Google is your friend when looking for carbon or graphite for your reinforcements. You probably want to by it in tapes instead of sheets for less waste. Scroll down the bottom of this page for examples: http://www.uscomposites.com/carbonpage.html

    Carbon fiber comes in different weaves and strengths. Which one matches the old "graphite reinforcement" I have no idea.
     
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  24. atatu

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    Does anyone know what the last mass produced wood racket was ? I'm talking about all wood, not graphite and wood.
     
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    I think it was either a Snauwaert ATP Mid or the Jack Kramer Mid
     
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    Goran_Ace is right....it was the Snauwaert Brian Gottfried.
    It was produced until 1987.
     
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    good luck... would be great to learn about your progress...
     
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  29. Ziggy925

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    I'm a little late to this thread, but a bamboo racquet sounds like an interesting and doable idea.
     
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  30. joe sch

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    There were some all bamboo and cane rackets produced about 50 years ago but I feel the best use of bamboo is how the modern bancroft wood rackets used as lamination to provide more flex and feel, plus good looks.
     
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