Newb, first machine, electrical or spring tension

Discussion in 'Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines' started by tennistar, Mar 26, 2005.

  1. tennistar

    tennistar New User

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    Hey, this is my first post and I've been in the market for a stringer for 2 weeks now. I've read alot of posts here and they've been real helpful but I have some more specific questions. First I'm still debating over an electrical machine or spring tension. My budget is up to $1300, and a the pro shop stringer suggested that Gamma was a very good company. Do you guys have any recomandations and either if I should get electriacl or spring? Thanks in advance
     
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  2. Gaines Hillix

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    You can buy the best crank machines on the market for that price. I would rate them as the Alpha Apex, Gamma 6004 and Prince Neos. My preference would be the Apex because of its full suspension frame mount. An electric is convenient and provides constant pull tensioning, but you will only get the lower end models for that price. A Silent Partner Aria would be worth considering. Anohter option you might want to consider is to combine an Alpha BLU DC or a Gamma 5003 with a Wise tension head. This gives you both the crank tension head and the Wise electronic constant pull tension head.
     
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  3. tennistar

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    Thanks for the reply, I started looking into slient partner, are they a good company? For my price range I liked the Aria as you mentioned. And I was reading about the Prince Neos 1000 and the Gamma 6004 (both spring). Which out of these would be easier for a noob? And do you agree with my chocies? Also I'm still a bit unclear about getting an electrical or a spring, which would be easier for me?
     
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  4. tennistar

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    are table top models like the Gamma Progression ST II or the Gamma Progression ES II+ any good, they seem good are those equivalent to the table top models that I mentioned above?
     
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  5. Audiodude

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    The STII is the tabletop version of the 5003. I personally find that a floorstanding machine is easier to maneuver around while stringing.

    I find crank tension machines very easy to use. Electric machines with drum tensioners are a little more time consuming than the linear pull grippers used on crank tensioners. You also need to make sure you have an adequate amount of string to wrap around the drum on your final pull. You can get by with a minimum amount using a linear pull gripper for that last string.

    The Gamma 6004 uses a mounting system that could save some time if you string a lot of racquets compared to the 5003. Both the 5003 and 6004 use all metal clamps that do a great job. The 6004 has an improved locking mechanism for the base of the clamp. I have never used the clamp from the 6004, so I can't offer an opinion of its performance. I have owned a 5003 for a couple of years and and previously owned an STII. Both machines have performed flawlessly.
     
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  6. tennistar

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    So it seems that standing is easier and I'll most likely go with a machine with a stand. The final 3 models I've narrowed it down to are Prince Neos 1000, Gamma 6004 and the Silent Partner e.Stringer DG. Out of these which should I get, and are the silent partner stringers any good?
     
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  7. Jerry Seinfeld

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    Of the choices you've mentioned, I would likely go with the Silent Partner Aria. Silent Partner produces a quality machine. David P. of this board owns one and can give you lots info. Keep checking this post as he posts frequently and will likely add his perspective here.
     
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  8. fedex27

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    i would go with the neos with the wise. the gamma has a full 6 point suspension but i had a lot of problems with mine and now have a neos and wise. also the alpha would be good too that gaines mentioned. the neos is very easy to use and i havent have problems with the mounting
     
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  9. Audiodude

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    My vote is for the 6004. I'm not a big fan of glide bar clamps like the ones used on the Prince. I'm also not a fan of drum type tensioners, like the one used on the Silent Partner. For the record, I wouldn't purchase one of the electric machines from Gamma that uses a drum type tensioner either. These are personal preferences of mine and are absolutely no reflection of build quality as both the Prince and Silent Partner are well built. I also believe gstring's experience with his Gamma is quite unusual, as I cannot recall reading about anyone else having problems. Do not be too quick to rule out the Alpha machines either.
     
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  10. fedex27

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    i would go with the apex but i got my neos for cheaper price from a freind so i got that
     
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  11. tennistar

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    Haha a lot of your guy’s opinions seems very contradictory. What is the wise that neos has, can any one explain that to me? The Gamma seems nice but is it beginner friendly. And the Silent partner one is the cheapest, can David P. who owns one give me any feedback on that model.
     
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  12. theace21

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    The Wise is a electronic device that replaces the hand cranks on all most all machines. I just bought one a couple of weeks ago for my old ektelon machine (now called neos).

    You can't go wrong with a Gamma or Alpha machine. Once you string a couple of rackets they all are pretty user friendly. The Neos has been around the longest and has a long list of loyal customers.

    If I were to buy a machine today, I would buy one of the gamma or alpha's and down the road know I could always upgrade to electronic with the Wise Tension Head. I have never seen or know anyone that uses a Silent Partner...Good Luck
     
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  13. stringzilla

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    tennistar,

    for what it is worth..here is my opinion..while the neos is an excellent machine, it does have an older style mounting system...for a new stringer, either the alpha or the gamma, I think, would better serve you...they both have the siz point mounting system and you would not have to use flying clamps or different mounting pieces to do fan shaped frames..I have an alpha axis pro that is about 3 years old and it does a real good job..
     
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  14. tennistar

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    Stringzilla thanks for the advice so I guess I'll elimnate the neos. Now its down to the Gamma 6004 and the Silent Partner estringer DG. I've heard their are some probelms with some nuts or something with the Gamma 6004, are these rumors or fact? And the Silent Partner estringer DG seems really nice but looks a bit flimsy, any one own this machine that could give me so info on the quality.
     
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  15. tennistar

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    any one have any answers, i know i'm beinging impatient but I wanted to order a stringer by the end of this week
     
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  16. Audiodude

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    I'd go with the Gamma for two reasons. 1. I'm not a fan of drum typre tensioners. They take longer to use, since you have to wrap the string around the drum and you need more string to do the job, especially critical on that last pull. 2. A lock out tensioner does not require electricity and is probably going to prove more reliable and certainly easier to service by yourself, if neccesary.
     
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  17. tennistar

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    Thanks Audiodude, but does Silent Partner DG a reliable machine, I know that the Gamma looks reliable but is the Silent Partner a good comapny?
     
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  18. Gaines Hillix

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    I'd recommend the Aria over the DG. SP has a good rep for their customer service.
     
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  19. tennistar

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    Thanks Gaines but sadly the Aria is a little over my budget
     
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  20. tennistar

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    I'm leaning towards the Silent Partner DG, but Im worried about the issue about the extra string needed for the final couple of pulls, is this a major problem? Since its will be my first time stringing I have no idea, if i run out of string then what do i do? Any suggestions
     
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  21. theace21

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    Not a problem at all. Most sets now are 40'. As long as you measure correctly you probably never run short. If it ever happens you probably could rig a floating clamp, or starting clamp with a extra piece of string and make the pull that way...
     
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  22. SunDog

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    Natural gut hybriding on big racquets is where you may have an issue with a rotational drum type stringer. A lot of NG is not 40 ft. If you hybrid - and string large frames, you need to put some forethought into using a shorter piece for a smaller head racquet and leaving a bigger piece for the larger frames.

    For instance: my raquet has a mid plus size head (with open sting pattern) and requires 18 feet for the mains to reach my non rotational drum tension head for the last mains. A friend of mine plays with an OS head (with a dense pattern) and I need more like 20 feet to do his mains. If i just open up a pack of gut that is 38' and cut it in half - I can't do both on my machine. I imagine that this problem would be amplified on a rotational drum tension head machine.

    Rigging NG to the rotational head with clamps would not be up there on my list of favorite things to have to do regularly.
     
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