Newbie stringing questions

Discussion in 'Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines' started by Shroud, Jun 20, 2013.

  1. Shroud

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    Sorry for the lame questions but I just bought a stringing machine combo recommended on this forum which is the gamma 6004 with the wise cp head. (thanks Irvin) Its been 20 years since I strung a racket using the prince p100 I think.

    Anyhow the gamma/wise is nice.

    But I have some questions so far.

    In the manual it talks about stress on the frame and recommends getting an H adapter from the racket manufacturers(Babolot, Prince or Alpha).

    I bought the gamma over the Prince neos because I remember how much the frame stretched on the old prince machine (it interesting how many cracked rackets there was back then and maybe the machine or my use of it had some thing to do with that) and thought the 6 point system might have less stress on the frame. Do I still need the h adapter?

    Also, on the wise I was expecting it to pull to the set number and just "stop" but what happens is it pulls to the number and then the tension goes back and forth from say 29.9 to 30 to 29.9 to 30. How do I get precise tension?

    Also on the clamps there is a knob to turn that will adjust how much they grab into the string. How do I set this correctly. Trial and error??

    Ok here is #4. Where do I find specific racket info. For instance I am using the POG mid. I remember in the day there were sheets in the usrsa book I had for each racket. Do I need that now adays and if so where do I get them?

    And is there a trick to putting in grommets? I have one where the last part of the bumper guard just wont stay in place. I can get it to stick through the hole and stick out past the frame, but it wont stay on its own. I was planning to just get it in place and pull the string with the machine. Will that work?

    Thanks for helping and if there is a link where I figure out all of this, that would be great. I looked at the sticky and it didnt seem to apply to the questions above.
     
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  2. esgee48

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    #1 IMO, if you have side support, you don't need the H adaptors. NEOS 1000 & 1500 are 2 points and if used properly will not break racquets.

    #2 The WISE is a CP, and what you see is the string stretching to 30#, relaxing to 29.9# etc. This is normal. Just clamp when its settles.

    #3 Trial and error. You want to clamp tight enough to prevent the string from slipping, but not so tight that it nicks the string.

    #4 RSI, Kilppermate, old SP site etc have stringing data. If you can't find it, ask here or join RSI. TW's racquet description gives a short concise stringing instruction.
     
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    If you join the USRSA you get "The Digest" sent to you a couple times / year. This has most of the patterns listed. Also their online digest is updated, and sometimes before the manuf. online support even puts out the pattern.

    If I understand your last question properly, you are having an issue with a new bumper guard not staying put on one end, as one end the string holds it down, and other side the string does not hold the end down,

    If this is the issue, then you skip that one cross that does not hold the end down, and then go back up and string the skipped cross , then go back and continue where you left off, and the string will then hold the ends down on both ends , once it is in place like that for a while, next stringing this will not be needed.This is the double back technique.
     
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  4. Shroud

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    Thanks for the answers it all makes sense.

    To clarify, the grommet issue is how I received the racket. Bought it unstrung and one side of the bumper guard was sticking out a bit. Tried pushing it in and using the awl and it works, just doesnt stay on its own.
     
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    you can tape or ziptie it down, but as stated above once you get it strung it should stay in next time.......sometimes they creep out just a little but i just push it in as i'm stringing/tensioning.
     
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    In addition to the benefits that Jim mentions, I have found that the value of string samples and free RSI magazine subscription (relevant if you are active in the industry) make USRSA membership fees pretty much a push for me. If qualified, you can also be part of their play test team (as I have done in the past) if that is your bag and if you have the time. Good value IMO.
     
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  7. fortun8son

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    The updated online Digest now includes every pattern they have ever published.
    It was invaluable for finding the patterns for old Snauwaerts, Donnays, etc.
    I no longer have to call them during business hours for an archive search.
     
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    thats good to hear its updated online. maybe i will look into it. i havent had any issue with figuring out pattern though
     
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  9. fortun8son

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    I've been collecting and rehabbing vintage instruments, so the archives are helpful to me.
    I've recently had a NOS unstrung Donnay WST Symphony and a Snauwaert Fibre Composite Two come into my possession. The Donnay had an unusual, 18M 8,10,11 skip that made my brain hurt as they were still virgin grommets.
    The Snauwaert had been strung incorrectly as a woodie(18x20) with 3 sets of shared holes and it looked wrong.
    It's a 16x18 with only 1(4) shared hole(s)!!!
    The patterns for modern, common racquets are readily available and an experienced stringer would not have to look up the pattern for a Blade98.;)
     
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