Newcombe: "Djokovic is really going to struggle the first six months of next year"

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  1. PCXL-Fan

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    Newcombes old rusty brain can't compute that these are different circumstances and a different player.
    Djokovic should be able to maintain #1 and will again be in top form come AO12
     
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    The hypocrisy on this board is too funny for words. "An almost win does not count"???? Have you seen the gazillion posts that have talked about all of Fed's hypothetical 'almost wins'?
     
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  3. Bobby Jr

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    It's basically only four weeks until these guys need to be playing at 100% - so that will be barely six weeks since Djokovic was seriously struggling with a shoulder niggle. It is entirely feasible, if that was related to the amount of playing he did that it will not be at 100% until October as it was this year - especially since the first few months of the year are gruelling in terms of court conditions. It would only take the slightest niggle - costing him a few % on his serve - for Djokovic to be struggling to defend many thousands of points over the course of the first half of the year.

    If that happened then just who is primed to pick up those points or whether they will get split amongst a group is yet to be seen.
     
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    Peter Bodo:
    "Although Djokovic's level of mid-2011 may be impossible to sustain, his decline in the fall has not only given him plenty of time for rest and rehab, it's also apt to make him hungry and more eager to get rolling in 2012. And that has to make the other members of tennis' big four somewhat uneasy, especially when you factor in the degree in which those hard courts in Melbourne love Djokovic's game."
    http://espn.go.com/tennis/blog/_/name/bodo_peter/id/7335155/tennis-novak-djokovic-doldrums-best
     
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  5. Bobby Jr

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    Bobo is a muppet.

    Djokovic was last playing, with an injured shoulder, only a few days before Federer, Tsonga, Berdych etc's last competitive matches. His rest/recovery time is basically no different to any of those guys.
     
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    I'll elaborate then. It means that Roger can have a chance to sniff the fingers of Nadal, with his nose, after they've been used on his arse crack/bum **** thing. By extension, that Federer might not be so far away from the top spot again, but currently his nose isn't close at all to Nadal's well used digits.
     
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  8. nadalwon2012

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    When Bobo is on board, you know something bad is about to happen. Just ask Andy Murray...
     
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    anyone who doesnt have their head up their azz with ****ism can clearly see that 2012 will be a wide open season.


    all of the big 4 have questions about them, not to mention guys like tsonga, berdych and delpo who could step up and if not snag a major, at least overturn the apple cart with upsets.


    I dont believe at all that djoker 'tanked' everything post the US open( although I admit its possible). I think he does have legit physical concerns. I think rafa's game is questionable at the moment and who knows where his body is going physically. Who knows if Fed has enough to last at majors anymore, who knows where Murray will be mentally.


    Lots of legit questions for 2012.
     
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    6-4 6-0.

    Or was that 6-3 6-0 ? Why can't I recall.

    p.s. Rafa fans talk about a different kind of "chocolate factory". That's another difference between the two.
     
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    I heard the Fed chocolate factory also makes Lindt chocolate covered bagels as well.

    Senti already mentioned this, I think.
     
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  12. nadalwon2012

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    Nadal's game sure wasn't lacking vs Del Potro Davis Cup.
     
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    Yes it was in every single aspect. He did not play that well,and was fortunate that Delpo was tired from playing a long match against Ferrer,otherwise he probably would have been straight setted.
     
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  14. nadalwon2012

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    There goes your 'credibility'.
     
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    Rafa played a fantastic match in sets 2 and 3.
     
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    If Nadal doesn't hit 30 winners and 0 UE then Clarky thinks he played badly. So one can kind of understands her perspective no matter how stupid it may be.
     
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    He is going to be vulnerable to many players in 2012. I would enjoy seeing Fed kick his ass on a grass, clay and any other surface.

    Djokovic has exposed how to easily beat Nadal.
     
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  18. celoft

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    Grinders like Nadal/Djokovic don't have longevity in the sport.
     
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    They don't need to have it to do well next year. They're still only 24/25.
     
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  20. celoft

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    Grinders are usually done and dusted once they hit 27.

    I don't see either of these players winning slams at 27+....
     
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    I'm not so sure we can call them grinders (though admittedly I was unaware of the term until I read it in these forums). Is that supposed to mean simply that they're mainly defensive players?. Because it's not like they don't play aggressively too.
     
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  22. celoft

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    Djokovic used to play much more aggressively in 2007/2008.
     
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  23. CDestroyer

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    Newcombe is really going to struggle with his depends under garments next year. Crapping himself at the drop of a hat.
     
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  24. nadalwon2012

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    Interesting isn't it, how Nadal will end up dominating Roland Garros (the most physically demanding slam of all) longer than Federer dominated any of the 4 slams....
     
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    speaking of butthurt...




    so much hateful posts in this thread. is this guy not allowed to give his opinions? *******s certainly talk about pro-Nadal opinions as if theyre revelations from God..
     
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  26. beast of mallorca

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    Dude, it's no different from pro-Fed talk and a sub-set of which are Rafa hate talk, so stop playing a holier than thou attitude. Bygones.
     
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    30 winners in each point, boy !! Clark's standards sure are high !!!
     
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  28. hoodjem

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    That's what I said in 2010.

    Let's go Fed!
     
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  29. beast of mallorca

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    She doesn't play the actual tennis, Senti. Maybe Wii.
     
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  30. DjokovicForTheWin

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    Dream Match Pro is the best I think.
     
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    Not really. He was still hitting short and defending as if his life depended on it. Not to mention how crappy his backhand was. The fourth set(and obviously the first set)was a disaster,and he was lucky to win it.
     
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  32. tusharlovesrafa

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    you seem to be obsessed with rafa(i must admit every chick dreams of him so nothing new here)..hence such high rate of posting..u r his secret admirer..c'mon u gotta admit this publicly.
     
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    If Federer had any guts, Nadal would not have won Wimbledon in 2008 either. :lol:
     
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  34. Clarky21

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    Lol,you are really starting to fall off the deep end,dude. You better catch yourself before tumble completely off.
     
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  35. beast of mallorca

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    I guess you failed to catch yourself off or nobody bothered with you, huh mama, lol.
     
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    While you may not like what I post,at least they don't look as if I have had one too many meetings with Jose Cuervo. Lol. Plus he has been replying to my posts all day with strange,barely decipherable stuff. What do expect me to say,"papa"? :lol:
     
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  37. nadalwon2012

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    I'm implying that Federer has a bigger longevity problem than Nadal, considering Nadal is dominating RG for longer than Federer dominated any of the slams.
     
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  38. DjokovicForTheWin

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    Doesn't Fed have 6 slams on grass and Nadal 6 on clay?
     
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    Djoker owns Nadal

    DjokovicFortheWin owns nadalwon2012
     
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    Yes, and they are stupid too for the most part. At the end of the day it is the win that matters.
     
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    I agree Bodo is a muppet but I think he is correct that the Djokovic injury post USO has been blown out of proportion and Djokovic has had plenty of rest time. Djokovic will be the favorite at the AO and I for one do not doubt that he will be in good form for the AO. If he is not, Nadal and Federer will obviously benefit.
     
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    You must be blind then. In any case, Nadal's form on clay at the DC means nothing for the 2012 season starting at the AO.
     
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  43. nadalwon2012

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    Yes but do you seriously think Nadal is finished? 8-10 RGs is a given, and that shoots dead anyone's theory that Federer had greater longevity than Nadal.
     
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    Nadal is the only man in history to win slams on clay, grass, hard in the same calendar year (2010). He also won 3 consecutive masters shields that year...

    And Djokovic's stats are inflated because 2 of the 4 slams are on hard. Can you imagine how many slams Nadal would have now if 2 of the 4 slams were on clay? :lol:

    Don't forget the Career Grand Slam and duel Wimbledon titles :lol:

    How about Djokovic, unwilling to complete matches he's about to lose :lol:

    The irony...

    ^
    All this and I only had to look at 2 pages of her post history :lol:
     
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    He will be lucky to win 1 more.
     
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    Newcombe is right, Djokovic will struggle to keep his number one ranking. It could be Rafa and Federer at 1 and 2 by the US Open. I thought it would only be Rafa. But now Federer is racking up the points hardcore, so he must be in the picture. A Federer vs Rafa Wimbledon final would help this.
     
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  48. celoft

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    Nice bump.

    I'm bumping some of my favorite threads now. :)
     
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  49. sbengte

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    And that could mean we start getting Djokodal semifinals.
     
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  50. RAFA2005RG

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    Rafa will benefit from that. He's seemed nervous in the finals vs Djokovic. Semis has a less tense atmosphere. And I hear the US Open is going to have a break between semis and finals now as a regular schedule.
     

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