Newly (damaged) Babolat APD 2013 & Trap Door Picture

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  1. kimbahpnam

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    I got my newly ordered Babolat APDs but they arrived damaged from TW, probably by the stringer...on both frames and at the exact same spot. Yea, yea they'll end up chipped anyway, but when I buy a new car I don't want any blemishes on it even though one day it will have some. I'm the one who should damage it!
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    I noticed they changed the inside of the handle. It used to be split into two columns down the middle but they took that out and now it's a big open space. This will make it easier for me to add silicone.
    Also notice it looks like there's a bar attached to the top and bottom which might have to do with the dampening?
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  2. v-verb

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    are you sending them back?
     
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  3. SwankPeRFection

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    Send that **** back. Ask for compensation of some free string or something else. That's just bs.
     
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  4. MattCrosby

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    send them back. The new trap door system looks pretty good, but means no silicone can really be used in the handle now
     
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  5. Chotobaka

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    No way you should keep these unless you receive a meaningful discount. I have always found TW to be reasonable when problems arise, so I sure they will work something out with you. You might even prefer products (strings, over grips, etc.) with a value greater than whatever cash discount they might offer (since they are paying with wholesale dollars in that scenario).
     
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  6. canadad

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    I agree, send it back or inquire about some sort of amicable solution. I am so fussy about my stuff, that would bother me very much. The sooner the better so there is not doubt it is from their end.
     
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  7. Andyroo10567

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    I'm not sure if i remember correctly but when i recieved my AeroPro Lite, it was split into 2 columns. Hmmm......
     
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  8. db10s

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    The trap door is for play and connect. Or at least thats what I heard.
     
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  9. db10s

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    Playtest, right? I can't imagine you using an APL.
     
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  10. Andyroo10567

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    Right. I would never dare use a APL.
     
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  11. db10s

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    Haha, I think I need to go dig up your review now...
     
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    Yeah, its in there somewhere. My main point of the review is, the thing is garbage w/o modifications.
     
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  13. acura9927

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    My local shop did a scratch like that on my new racquet and
    the mgr give me a new one and put the scratched one as a demo. Those 2013 are so nice feeling and looking I want one as a museum piece.
     
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  14. Andyroo10567

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    I'm guessing you went to Avanti Sports?
     
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  15. db10s

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    Look what I found

    Overall score IMHO : 4.3/10.
     
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  16. Andyroo10567

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    Bingo. 10ch
     
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  17. acura9927

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    No, sturevants
     
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  18. Andyroo10567

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    Ahh. There tacoma store had some pretty good prices on there used demo racquets considering there condition.
     
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  19. corners

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    Yeah, TW needs to replace or refund. And I'm sure they will. But you've got no business posting this here, publicly. This is between you and TW.
     
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  20. PhotoBlue

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    Yes. Defanently send them back!!!
     
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  21. db10s

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    I think this is a Babolat problem more than a TW problem.
     
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    Am I the only one who doesn't think it's that big of a deal?
     
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    Its not a big deal but when you pay for something new, you expect it to be new. It's no problem if after you buy it that you can do whatever you want with it. Its the fact that they weren't being careful with someones purchase from TW which can effect future purchases from TW and wouldn't look so great in there reputation.
     
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  24. grimmbomb21

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    TW requires you to state chips and scratches to racquets you post in the for sale section. And they pay less money if there are paint chips on frames you sell back to them. So I think it's important to most.
     
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    Normally I would agree but he said it was at the exact same spot. Which I would assume then that the chips were cause by a mounting post. Probably taking it off or on the stringer.
     
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  26. tennisnut09

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    The paint is very to chip and scratch on these new babs. My local stringer did scratch my PDR at the same area but it is much smaller and hard to notice so I let him get away with it. I would send these rackets back to TW. I think they will replace them.
     
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  27. db10s

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    But when the paint is that crappy, is there anything the stringer can really do?
     
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  28. Mick

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    i don't know. I bought 2 2013 APD from TW, both were strung and they were perfect, no scratches.
     
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  29. db10s

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    And that goes to show how much quality can vary.
     
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    Ummm....how about if they don't gouge the racquet while they are stringing it? If you string racquets, you will realize that this looks like the person used a starting clamp to tighten their knots. This is a careless, amateur mistake and not something to be blamed on Babolat.
     
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  31. UCSF2012

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    That's not a paint chip. It's friction rub. Something rubbing against that area took off some paint with it. Happened because the frame ended in an almost knife-edge, so the mounts have to stabilize the frame using such small surface area. It's bound to happen sooner or later. Even if you exchange the frame, it'll happen again very soon.

    I still have no reason to buy Bab. They crack, and now the paint rubs off.
     
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  32. UCSF2012

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    No, it's more Bab's fault than the stringer's. All the stringer did was mount it in a 6-point suspension stringing machine. Just so happens that frame design made it more susceptible to movement, because there's so little surface area for the mounts to grab on to. ...so the paint rubbed off.
     
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    I thought TW is still using Neos.? Neos mounting would not cause chips at that area. Even a proper 6 point mounting system should not cause damage to that spot.
     
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  34. Andyroo10567

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    Woops, poster above already said it ^^
     
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  35. db10s

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    IIRC TW uses a NEOS because when they did the low tension test he (can't remember who) found out how low the NEOS could go...
     
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    No matter the cause, brand new racquets should have never gone out the door in that condition. I have had a few new racquets strung over the years at TW with no imperfections at all. So, this is not their normal MO.
     
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  37. db10s

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    How do we know it wasn't knocked around in the mail?
     
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    Identical spot? I think I'd rather reason that it was poor mounting technique on a stringing machine..
     
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  39. sundaypunch

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    Yes, that's what they say. Regardless of how it got scratched, they should have never packed those up and shipped them.

    I am surprised as I have purchased many, many racquets from TW and never had a problem.
     
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  40. db10s

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    But they use a NEOS....
     
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  41. Andyroo10567

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    Maybe he dropped a quarter on it while he was mounting it. :p
     
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  42. db10s

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    Thats all it takes for the paint to chip on a Bab.
     
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  43. Andyroo10567

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    You know, i once was breathing on my babolat to polish it and it melted. True story.
     
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  44. db10s

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    Lead tape pealed off paint on my Aerostorm... A REAL true story.
     
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  45. UCSF2012

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    Perhaps they don't exclusively use a NEOS?
     
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  46. db10s

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    I think it would be of benefit to use one type of machine, and people have asked before, and the answer from TW has always been a NEOS.
     
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  47. UCSF2012

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    They gave you a return label. Use it if a paint smudge matters that much to you. You spent $200 on a Babolat. That means you already got ripped off big time, so you might as well get a museum quality finish...even if it'll crack next week.
     
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  48. db10s

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    That was funny... but true...
     
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  49. UCSF2012

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    Not to point out the obvious, but the implication here is that they don't exclusively use one machine.
     
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  50. db10s

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    Either way, the Babolat paint sucks.
     
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