Next best thing to the BABOLAT STAR 5

Discussion in 'Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines' started by star 5 15, Jun 25, 2009.

  1. star 5 15

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    What do you all think for around the same price is the same quality of machine that the star 5 is. Everyone knows about the well-known poly issues with it and I'm looking elsewhere now.
     
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  2. drakulie

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    ^^I here the new Prince machines are solid.

    One tennis store near where I live switched to the 6000 series.
     
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  3. star 5 15

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    do you know what the price tag is on it?
     
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  4. drakulie

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    ^^^3800???

    google it, and you'll find a few links of places selling them.

    Good luck.
     
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  5. Mansewerz

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    I believe it's about $3K, give or take a few hundred.
     
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  6. star 5 15

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    Too bad that enw TF machine thats sposed to beat out the star 5 isn't out yet.
     
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  7. star 5 15

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    does anyone know how the alpha machines compare to it?
     
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  8. drakulie

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    I remember reading about your experience with the poly problems and tensioner of your star 5. Am I correct in stating babolat has never fixed the problems for you??? are you returning the machine???
     
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    Well poly has not been breaking as often but it is still happening to much for a machine of its caliber. I emailed nate right before they closed today and told him i didnt want another pulling assembly(i've probly had close to 7 or 8 of them) and that we needed to look at other options. He told me that he emailed france for suggestions and that he would probly hear back by tomorrow. I think that unless this miracuously gets fixed with something different I will try to return it and if that's the case I will probably wait on the new TF machine that is supposed to compete with the star 5. That is unless we get something worked out. Hopefully these little frenchys will figure something out or correct their production problem by making the jaws so damn aggressive. I have heard france is indenial about the issues and Nate told me that they are doing "testing" right now to solve the problem.
     
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    ^^^Damn. Good luck with that, and sorry to hear about all the problems. :(

    Hopefully, everyhing will work out whatever machine you end up with.
     
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  11. joletzring

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    prince 6000

    I have never personally used the Star 5 so I can't offer you a direct comparison.

    But I did want to throw my support behind the new Prince 6000. I just purchased one a few weeks ago and I love it. It is a terrific machine and I have not had any issues with polys as you seem to have had with the Star 5.

    At least at the time I ordered the machine, Prince offered an attractive string bundle with the machine so it works out to be a very good deal in my opinion.

    Give it a close look--

    Good luck-

    -Jonathan
     
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    Thanks for the help. Could you actually tell me how much the machine was and shipping and all that stuff. Also how the customer service is with prince I've never really heard much about it. I have had alot of issues with my star 5 but the after sales service has been great.

    Also does anyone have contact info for stringing machines with Tecnifibre. A phone number? In the US.
     
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  13. joletzring

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    prince 6000

    I don't have everything in front of me, but if my memory is correct, the machine sells for $3800. The shipping cost was around $150 I believe. But then you get roughly 160 sets of free string with the machine (including some of their expensive new multifilament Premier LT), so that brings the real cost down quite a bit.

    I have not had any mechanical issues or problems with the machine so I don't know how the service will be. I do know that all service is done through Tennis Machines--I have called them in the past and they seem very good.

    I do have 1 minor issue I am working with Prince to get resolved. One of the screws on the stand of the machine did not screw in perfectly straight. All that I need them to do is send me a replacement stand. I have to admit--I am not altogether pleased with their proposed solution to this issue. They want me to call Tennis Machines to get this resolved. My feeling is that it isn't a mechanical issue and I don't want to go through Tennis Machines on something like this.

    All in all, I think it is a very solid machine.
     
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  14. jim e

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    Xtremesportsmachines have some great machines. I have the Pro Master model, and has worked flawlessly with all types of strings, no poly issues, and I string a lot of nat. gut.That machine has similar features to the star 5, and they have a newer model now that has a raising head tensioning system, which minimizes the downwards drag against the grommets, allowing a straight pull as most machines do not have such a feature, I think its their RX-V2 model.Their customer service is great as well, as I asked them about getting some extra base clamp springs, as I heard that they all wear out over time irregardless of the make, and they sent me some extra ones at no charge, and no shipping as well, and I did not even purchase my machine from them, as I got mine from the previous distributor before xtreme took over. Only downside is they are now in Australia, so shipping may be a concern, but are not most machines made outside the US anyways, so shipping on those are most likely incorporated into the machine price.
    Anyways I am very happy with my purchase , and would make the same one again.
     
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    I've done some research and it looks like in the $3000 ish price range that's worth looking at are the babolat star 5, the prince 6000, and probably Alpha's new Odyssey (due out later this year). The Odyssey tensioner looks very similar to the p6000 with an apex2 looking base and clamps. I think Alpha has those at a price point of around 2200.

    Technifibre has nothing in that price range yet.. I hear their new machine that will compete with the star5 won't be out until next year.

    Good luck!
     
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  16. uk_skippy

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    We've been using the Prince 6000 at Wimbledon this year. Overall it's not a bad machine but there have been some issues. The biggest was the clamps. I turned up to find that the clamps supplied weren't holding too well. I'd been told to bring my babolat clamps, and several other stringers had done the same. The downside was that the Babolat clamps are heavier that the Prince clamps and this cause some problems if they were dropped to quickly; the locking system then failed and had to be 'popped' back up.

    It also seemed that the tie-off function could not be programmed so it was stuck at 10%, a bit worrying when string gut @ 72lbs.

    A nice feature was the tool drawer, which I used as an extended tool tray. The flashing lights when tensioning is nice, but not really required and maybe Prince should had addresses some minor problems rather that making it flashy.

    Would I buy one over a Star 5? I don't know as I haven't used the Star 5 yet. But I do know that the back-up service by Babolat is very good.

    Regards

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  17. abllee2198

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    Wimbledon Stringing Machine

    I believe Paul Skipp is referring to the Prince 6000 machine, not 600.

    A..Lee
     
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  18. joletzring

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    Paul--can you be a little more specific about the problems you had with the 6000 over at Wimbledon.

    I am just curious. So far I have not had any issues with the clamps on my 6000. I have had to make many micro-adjustments to the clamps for various types of strings, but this is to be expected.

    Did Prince do anything to attempt to resolve the issues you were having?
     
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    Quite correct Albert, post has been edited.

    Paul
     
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    I have emailed you a response.

    Regards

    Paul
     
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  21. Hankenstein

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    Just a short side-note, but there is a lot of details on the prince 6000 that is similar to the pro´s pro v888 machine;

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    The Pro´s Pro also is identical as the company Extreme Sports Machines in looks.
     
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    seems like Babolat is just going to blame the string. Wow gotta love the French.






    I talked to France a few hours ago and they have been doing testing and have not been able to duplicate any of the problems that are being seen in the USA.

    I know that we were having some issues with our Pro Hurricane tour for a couple of months, but that problem has been resolved. I am not for sure if other companies are having problems with their poly string. I have heard in general from other people that they have had the same problem in a few cases with other brands of poly string. Not just with the Star 5, but other brands of stringing machines.

    There are not that many factories that produce the poly string. So I am starting to wonder if the quality in the factories across the board has gone down. I will keep you informed if I hear of any new information.

    Let me know how the pulling assembly that was sanded down works.

    Thanks - Nate
     
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  23. chrisplchs

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    i've strung tons of racquets on a Star 5 and i've never had any issues with poly breaking while stringing. in fact, of about the over 2k racquets i've strung on a Star 5, i've never had a non-gut string break on me.

    maybe its the user problem, not the machine
     
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    Has anybody used the Wilson Baiardo ($6K)?
     
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    it's not a "user problem" for crying out loud albert lee had the problem. Look at a couple star 5 threads and you'll see there are many people with the issue.
     
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    I have a Star 2 and have never had a problem with any type of string. Whats the difference with the Star 5 and 2,3,4?
     
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    I don't know specifics but I know that the star 5 is the only one currently in production and it's alot different from the others but the star 2 is the oldest and the 3 and 4 are similar but the 4 has a digital screen and the 3 is just a dial. The 5 is more like a sensor than any of the other star 2, 3, or 4.
     
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    I've only had 2 strings break on me while tensioning on my Star 5: Signum Pro Poly Plasma and Topspin Cyber Flash. Everything else, from cheap poly to top-grade gut, has gone without a hitch for over 2 years now. In fact, my Star 5 string gripper is much easier on strings than my old Ektelon ever was. I hope your problem isn't machine-related, but rather a string issue as I feel mine was.
    Oh, the Star 4 did not have a diablo, which the 3 and 5 do. It was a lot easier to travel with, I hear, since it was much lighter. Albert can provide the tech differences, I'm sure.
     
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  29. drakulie

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    The star 4 does have a diablo.
     
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    I think they all have a diablo
     
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    I stand corrected; you gentlemen are right.
     
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    I have had the privilege to use the machine and I loved more than any other that i have tried (Sensor, Start 5, Technifibre). The touch screen and ergonomic features make the machine so easy and comfortable to use. Plus, the string does not stuck anywhere on the machine. The other great feature is that you set the calibration to match anything you want (old machine, a specific calibrator, etc...). Sweet machine! Too bad the general public cannot get one!
     
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    Thanks for the info. You can get a used one, check a the bay, really expensive IMO.
     
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  34. iplaybetter

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    the new prince machines are supposed to be really good as has been stated, i string on a 3000(old one) and love it and tennis machines is really solid support
     
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  35. iplaybetter

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    just to add to what i said, i think people might want to try the 3000 base clamps on the 6000, and while i dont have a set yet the slim clamps for the 3000 are supposed to be some of the best around,


    and on the issue with the base, just give them a call they are really nice and can probably sort it out easier than prince

    and to close, i talked to alpha a while ago about their machine and they keep saying soon so i wouldn't wait for it
     
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