NHL 2013-14 Discussion: Keep It SpICY!

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  1. stringertom

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    Gotta start thinking about this right away...the draft is on Sunday!

    Who's your team? What's on your wish list to complete the package?

    This year will be quite different for me (and Fena)...the Isles draft quite a bit later than I've gotten used to. A bit of help along the blue line or a promising goalie prospect? Only if we can get a gem that late. Otherwise, building a third and fourth line around a grinding center might be the ticket.

    Let's go Islanders!
     
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    Great idea! The thread usually only picks up around playoff time.

    I agree, someone on the back end would be good. Unfortunately the mock drafts i've seen have us going for wingers, where there already is enough strength. I'd pick someone like Nikita Zadorov, or maybe trade the pick for a solid D man already in the league who can fill the big hole Streit left.

    Will be interesting to see what trades go down over the weekend, the draft always moves things along!
     
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    Seven of the top 20 prospects on the list I found are centers...surely one will be around at #15...Monahan, Shinkaruk (listed LW/C), Gauthier from Canada and Wennberg from Sweden. Win more faceoffs, control the puck and feed the snipers...a winning plan when our top lines are on ice. Like the Bruins, let's have more depth.

    We'll have to bump this thread from time to time from here to training camp and the regular season. I'll do my share!
     
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    I live in Seattle, waiting for July 2 for the Coyotes to leave that money pit in Glendale and come here and make it work. Stop throwing good money at bad, Glendale AZ. The people down there are sick to the death of their taxes being wasted.
     
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    This is something I'm interested in. I wouldn't, until recently, call myself a hockey fan, though I've idly followed the Hurricanes since their move to NC.

    I started watching this season right before the playoffs. I'm looking forward to learning more during the offseason and following it closely in 2013-14.
     
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    Welcome, Seth! Hope you've had a chance to catch a few games live in Charlotte. There is nothing in sports more exciting than live NHL hockey, particularly during the Cup playoffs. I happen to be a lucky fan that wound up in the building the day the Islanders won their first of four consecutive Cups. If there's anything I can help explain, please feel free to ask me or any of the other regular contributors.
     
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    Interesting, they usually have a proposed package in place for these kind of things to happen. Any idea on what they are suggesting the name might be?

    Interesting way of looking at it, you could be right. I like our centres, Tavares, Bailey, Cizikas, Nielsen, Nelson, Strome, Sundstrom etc.. But as Chicago have shown, a great offense takes you far.

    I know Zach Fucale, the goalie, is projected to go around the time the Islanders make their pick, he's been great in the post season the last two years so that would also address an issue we have.

    It's just the defence i'm a bit worried about. We saw against the Penguins the Islanders can light it up, the defence isn't at the same level though, even more so now Streit has left. I just hope a few of the picks over the last few years come good, that and a good trade/free agent pick up will no doubt help.
     
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    It's been a good day so far. Swapping Niederreiter for Clutterbuck is a great move. Imagine him and Martin on the same line? They're both always at the top of the league in hits, nobody is going to like playing the Islanders next year.

    Getting Pulock in the draft is good also a great pick. He shoots at over 100mph and he's still a teenager, he's also very strong so hopefully he turns out well. I've heard a few people say that if he works on his skating, he has the ability to be the next Erik Karlsson. Fingers crossed.
     
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    Clutterbuck also played with Tavares in juniors. I guess cutting ties with an overall fifth pick can work out if you get a grinder like Clutterbuck and the #70 pick (wasn't that the one we used for the first goalie of the two we tapped?) produce eventually.
     
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    He did indeed. I'd like to see anyone try it on with Tavares next year when there's Martin and Clutterbuck around, i'm thinking they will regret it :)

    Yeah it was the Minnesota pick that we used for McAdam, that one could go either way I think. It was good to get Taylor Cammarata a few picks later, as a 17 year old he scored 93 points in 59 USHL games (2nd most of all time). He's 5'7 and has a few tricks up his sleeve so i'm pleased to of got him. He was projected to go around the 50 mark, so for him to of still been on the table at 76 is great.
     
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    Still waking up from the dream ending for Chicago. Nothing ever ends up like that for Chicago teams (the Bulls were an anomoly).

    The whole playoffs, all I was telling a buddy of mine was to get rid of Bolland, Frolik and Oduya. Bolland hadn't done anything all year (at a $3M+ cap hit), Frolik can only kill penalties and doesn't have a ton of skill, and Oduya was the turnover king our own zone and got bounced around like a rag doll. How the Hawks coaching saw Leddy as more of a liability than Oduya, I don't know.

    But 2 of my wishes already came true. The Maple Leafs will be disappointed in Bolland. I think his carrer is done.

    Obvious moves to make room for Bickel's signing......That guy is not worth $4M/year.

    Hawks haven't lost much talent in letting those guys go. Hopefully, they've beefed up their farm system.
     
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    I'm guessing any beer Bolland drinks out of the Cup this summer will leave a bitter aftertaste...score the Cup-winning goal and become a cap casulty to resign Bickell. That's the hockey biz...what have you done for me lately???
     
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    The Flyers are retooling with a big signing today...Lecavilier joins the Broad St. Bullies. Expensive move but may pay off. Meanwhile, they opted out on goalie Bryzgalov, a Cup winning netminder with the Ducks years ago. Garth Snow, are you interested????
     
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    Hanging on with excitment whether Glendale will vote to keep the Yotes in PHX.
     
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    Well they have bought out Di Pietro :)

    I think they're hoping to ride Tim Thomas for a few years, hopefully Poulin or Nilsson come good in that time or they can pick someone up through a trade.
     
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  16. Feña14

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    Briere to the Canadiens.
    Seguin and Peverley for Loui Eriksson and some prospects.

    Oh and free agency starts tomorrow :)

    Some decent players out there, hopefully we can pick up a couple out of Ference, Scuderi, Colaiacovo, maybe Ballard. Horton would be nice, but I can't be greedy :)
     
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    Thread bump for The Jackal's benefit.
     
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  18. Alex78

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    Ok, let's go Rangers! :)
     
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  19. thejackal

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    Cool. Didnt see it the first time around.

    Look for some backstage canadiens-related stuff here. Since theyre paying me to follow the guys around the bell center now.

    Training camp starts in a couple of weeks. Havent been in a rink with high level players in years so it ll be interesting
     
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    Great to have you on board as an insider! Hope you keep us as informed as we have been by you about Filip.
     
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  21. Alex78

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    Early (premature ;-) ) candidates for rookie of the year?

    Hi there, are Ryan Strome and Mark Scheifele finally about to make their respective teams for full-time duty? And if so, do you think they can vie for roty honors?
    Or is it going to be one of the Big 4 of the 2013 draft? (I don't see any of the 2012 d-men making an impact yet) Or some over-looked surprise player/hidden gem from a later draft round?
     
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    You might get my ROTY vote for your question!

    As an Isles fan, yeah it's time to see Strome in the blue and orange. He will have some great young talent around him to help his transition but Snow has shown proper patience in building a competitive squad so if he's not ready don't be surprised if he goes back to the minors.

    The draft yielded one sure-fire winning combo...Seth Jones going to the Predators to learn at Weber's side. Whether a "D" can win ROTY is harder to say. Outside the top 4, Calgary getting Monahan and Dallas picking Nicushkin at #10 were strong moves. They may be a bit young and on weaker teams to vie for awards but they will pan out in the long run.
     
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    They're saying Strome will probably play on the wing this season, which isn't his natural position, so yeah, rookie of the year looks like it might be a big ask for him.

    Last years draft was very deep though, and with players from the last few years starting to come through, whoever does win that title will have to play seriously well :)
     
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    ;-) That would be my first award here!

    Snow finally doing something right, eh? Maybe Strome and Okposo together with Bailey in the middle? Could that be a nice 2nd line for the Isles? If not at the start of the season, then down the road? It would be about time for both Okposo and Bailey to finally break through on a consistent basis as well.
    And how do you like Clutterbuck with Tavares and Moulson?

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    Jones probably has the physical maturity to make a splash right away. But the Preds have never rushed their prospect, or have they? Hopefully, Filip Forsberg will be ready for filling out a scoring role, his debut didn't look too exciting with regard to statistics.
    I don't think that Monahan will make a big impact right away. I don't get to view any CHL games, but I thought he may be a player with potential similar to Steve Yzerman, though he would have to wait for at least one or maybe even two years before he can fully assert himself. Plus, Calgary finally seems to be in rebuilt mode, so why rush their best prospect(s).
     
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  25. Feña14

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    Don't forget you've got to fit Bouchard in there too, he's not great with injuries, but he's usually on track for 60 point seasons.

    Grabner and Nielsen on the third, with some great role players like Martin, it's strong as hell. The only problem we have is keeping them out the other end :)
     
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    If only Bouchard wasn't made of glass, I've always thought that he could be a premier center in this league. Unfortunately, with his concussion history, I really doubt he can return to his once promising form. But if Bailey fails again, could he be the Isles' 2nd line center? And where is Boyes going to play?

    Uh, and too bad they bought out DiPietro... :twisted:
     
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    Where do you fit Boyes, good question. For me we aren't done yet, there could be a move for Miller coming up, possibly even an established leader for the back end. With all the riches with forwards and young players in the system, both of these moves could happen.
     
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    Isles need a high-profile, effective shutdown d-man, don't they?
    And could de Haan be a future offensive blue liner?
    Miller over Nabokov, though?
     
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    A top shutdown defenseman would be great, although we haven't really replaced Streit either. The D was the issue last year, it's probably got worse over the summer.

    Miller has been talked about, as was Luongo before that Schneider trade. Personally i'd hoped we would get Bernier, he only cost the Leafs a couple of average players and a second round pick. We could have gone for that.
     
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    I also thought the Leafs made a great deal getting Bernier.
    But now Nonis is doing something interesting again - is he just trying really hard to fit Kadri and Franson under the cap, or is he showing them that they're both not really valued highly in Toronto?
    Maybe they're not Carlyle's players, esp. Kadri?
     
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  31. SuperDuy

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    looking forward to it
     
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  32. thejackal

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    this is what it's all about.

    two week until training camp...
     
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  33. Alex78

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    More than two decades soon... ;)
     
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    We'll wait for the Leafs to catch up a bit first. Might not be the best idea ever considering they havent won the cup since 67....


    If you're on a coffee break, we just put together a list of top 10 funny vintage ads featuring Habs players:

    http://goha.bs/19QQALC
     
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    Haha, some good ones among them!
    - So how do you like your chances for next season? I think you just got bigger, eh, better with the addition of Briere, didn't you? Always liked this guy, awesome talent, even if he's kinda old now...
     
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    One word: Teemu.
     
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    we were talking about the youtube video announcement at the office. very clever.

    also, note that not many guys would agree to shoot a promo vid while standing waist-deep in cruddy golf course water...
     
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    So the Kadri saga keeps dragging on, eh?
    My (best) bet is he won't be on the Leafs much longer...
     
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  39. thejackal

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    spent the day at the habs rookie camp today (main camp next week). few pics:

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  40. Feña14

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    Great pics, thanks for keeping us updated.
     
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    ARTICLE (canadiens.com): http://canadiens.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=681755&navid=DL|MTL|home

    2nd scrimmage at rookie camp. havent seen pro-level hockey from this close in a while and as far as I recall, the overall skill level is definitely better than back when I was growing up playing hockey in montreal and in the US.

    magnus nygren (D), charles hudon (LW) and christian thomas (RW) made some especially good plays. wouldn't be surprised to see them play a few games in the NHL this season. nygren has a wicked slapshot and beat the opposing goalie (2013 2nd round draft pick zach fucale) clean from about 50 feet away, low stickside. hudon has the best wrist shot and overall offensive skills out of the players - during the shootout at the end of the game, he pulled a sick move called the beanpot (popularized by tony amonte and forsberg back in the day) and made the goalie look bad. thomas is a sniper who's also got a very quick release. banged one in top-shelf on a breakaway during the game. he's the son of steve thomas, who scored 400-odd goals in the NHL.
     
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  42. thejackal

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    first day of the main training camp, which means physical testing. bench presse, treadmill, grip strength and the beep test (shuttle runs) among other things

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  43. Feña14

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    Nice! Who got the best bench press? :)
     
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    no idea. the lady in charge of the gym I go to was running the show and she wouldn't tell me...

    that being said, I wouldn't be surprised if it were travis moen. first met him a few years ago at the indoor pool of his condo building and the guy is a beast. farm boy from saskatchewan...
     
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    Sounds about right. Gotta love the players who are known for doing the dirty work and dropping the gloves, but still put up the points.
     
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    Why the late start? 9:30 my time is way too late.
     
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    welcome to the western conference where starts are gonna be late.

    Watched the Toronto-Montreal opener and neither team looks great to come out of the gate. Sloppy sloppy game. They are gonna be fighting with Florida and Tampa if they dont find regular season form fast. I just dont see Montreal or Toronto beating out Boston or Detroit if thats how they are gonna play going forward.

    I do hope Parros is ok. Never want to see a guy bounce his head off the ice like that.
     
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    scary moment there with parros. he hit the ice chin-first and was knocked out for a bit. his arms were tied up with orr so he couldn't brace for the fall. really sad to see that. talked to him a couple of times because of a common friend in sports media and he's a real good dude (we lived in some of the same places as well across US and Canada). hope he'll feel okay soon.
     
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  49. thejackal

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    on a lighter note, mike mccarron, the first round draft pick from the habs this summer, was chatting up genie bouchard over twitter. the media here is havin a field day with that. for his sake I hope that quiets down soon. :p
     
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    Good to have a full season again.
    - I didn't pay attention to how exactly the realignment of the conferences and divisions was carried out, though. Two teams less in the West, isn't that kinda unfair because it increases the odds of making the playoffs for Western conference teams?
    And does that mean that expansion is going to happen soon?
    - On another note: Although the Caps were beaten by the BHawks, nice debut by Grabo, at least from an individual perspective.
     
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