Nicolas Almagro & Novak Djokovic in Taiwan!!!

Discussion in 'Pros' Racquets and Gear' started by andersonho, Sep 28, 2012.

  1. Hidious

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    It's just a Hotmelt 300g.
     
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  2. vsbabolat

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    Quoted for truth.
     
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  3. Red Sunset

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    Thanks for clearing that up.
     
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  4. Recon

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    Balance point on Djokovics frame?

    and so its 342 grams, with a swingweight of 370...how's that possible?
     
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    Djokovic's frame weighs 358g strung with a balance point of 32.5 cm headlight.
     
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  6. kimbahpnam

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    has anyone answered why Djoko's racquet looks .5'' shorter than the retail?
     
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  7. dr325i

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    We don't know what "retail" was next to it...
     
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  8. Mateo

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    So what it is TGK 231.1 or 231.2 ?
    great pics....
     
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  9. ART ART

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    Are you sure about the balance point?

    Balance should be around 33.0cm, don't forget the dampener(2grams) and the fact that this picture, isn't clear enough about the balance point.

    According to Fabfed pics, the balance is ~33.0cm.

    Correct me if I am wrong.

    Cheers :)
     
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  10. Mateo

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    I think that marin Cilic is also playing with microgel rad TGk 231 something (16*19)
     
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  11. dgoran

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    Looking at the flex numbers I am actually convinced that Nole is using lm radical tour without lm ridges which had strung flex in low 60

    Mg radical flex is in high 50s

    Keep in mind that flex numbers taken above we're from strung racquet.

    In comparison almagro a racquet is 60 unstrung so his racquet is softer than noles. It's probably 56-58 strung. This also makes me believe that it's not hot melt 300g but custom layup of the same mold since if I remember correctly hot melt 300g had flex of 64 unstrung
     
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  12. movdqa

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    > I think that marin Cilic is also playing with microgel rad TGk
    > 231 something (16*19)

    There's been a ton of Cilic's frame for sale on the string forums over the last year or two in YT and IG paintjobs. You can go there to look at the pictures, specs and prices.
     
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  13. Mateo

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    Can someone post spec of liquidmetal tour and mp just curious to see the difference
     
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  14. niktub

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    why don't you help yourself and post the result?
     
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  15. Lefty78

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    According to racquettech (USRSA) the STRUNG flex for MG Rad mp is 60 RA. They list the LM as 63.

    Some more food for thought: we know where the lead is on Nole's personal racquets, but unless there are multiple layers of it under the bumper, neither the Microgel nor the Liquidmetal will make his spec. It's a custom layup, IMO.
     
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  16. movdqa

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    I think we need to know the weight of the hairpin of the MG Radical MP. We can then add the pallets, grip, overgrip, lead and strings and assume the difference is silicone. It should add up.
     
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  17. Big John

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    I posted this one the Pro Stock 101 (Head) discussion..

    Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Djokovic would be using the TGK 231.1, Microgel Radical MP mold in flexy form, around 60 flex, tight pattern?

    The 231.2 is also tight pattern but is stiffer, more like a pt57e in flex. Was used by Chardy and Casey Dellacqua. Has much more pop but feels quite different to the 231.1, a little like the difference between a pt57a and a pt57e? Plays a bit like an uncapped pt57e in my opinion, quite liked it.

    The 231.3 is the open pattern flexy version used by Cilic. Could be same layup as the 231.1 but in 16 19, so around the 60 flex mark?
     
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  18. movdqa

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    Sounds like a reasonable assumption. Anyone have the hairpin stats on a 231.1?
     
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  19. movdqa

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    Vidda has two Cilic frames available without silicone and lead that weigh 285 grams (10.05 ounces). If we assume that the 231.1 weighs as much as the 231.3, then the pro stock version should be around 11 grams lighter. The question is could Djokovic's setup be done with that lighter hairpin? Anyone have one?
     
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  21. Big John

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    Bingo! Great job Kungfu5tin.
     
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  22. mavsman149

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    Anyone tried the Almagro specs out? If so how did you like it and how did you go about achieving those specs on you 300G?
     
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    Or the has anyone tried the Djokovic specs on a MG Radical?
     
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  24. hirschi80

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    i tried the djokovic spec on a ti radical, which comes from the same mold. the racquet plays very well...tried it with the same string-setup too.
     
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  25. dgoran

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    I did and it's very very good ungodly if your shoulder /body can handle it for prolonged period of time
     
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  26. mavsman149

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    Would you mind sharing how you created it? I also saw you've done the Almagro 300G in another thread, any help would be greatly appreciated!!
     
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  27. dgoran

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    Honestly I don't remember exactly it's been a while and I sold the racquet since but it was roughly 10grams in the hoop under the bumper and 30 grams in the handle
     
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  28. mavsman149

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    Thanks!!! What about the Novak racket?
     
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  29. dgoran

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    With Nole radical it kind of depends on head radical starting weight but again roughly I would start by copying lead setup on one of his racquet pictures (there are so many out here) but roughly start lead at 3 and 9 where bumper ends and about 8 inches on each side till one of the tie off holes than again depending on your starting balance add lead to the handle and under the bumper think 8-10grams and in the handle (I like to start at top of the grip but if you have one that's very head light than you have to probably start in the bottom or inject silicone if that's your thing I personally don't like silicone
     
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  30. mavsman149

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    Thanks man! Ton of help! Now I gotta pick up an MG Radical...did you use the original or the reissue? I know everyone on here says the reissue isn't as good, but the flex seems closer to Djokovic's actual frame.
     
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  31. dgoran

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    I used re-issue think with that amount of lead you won't feel a big difference either way.

    I can help you more once you buy your rackets to measure the specs exactly
     
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  32. mavsman149

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    Thanks man! I already have an original 300G that I'm gonna try out the Almagro spec on, I just need to go get the MG Radical sometime.
     
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