Nike Zoom Vapor 9 Tour VERY disapppointed in quality.

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  1. Hollywood2

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    Hello everyone sorry the typo with the word disappointed in the heading.

    I purchased the Nike Zoom Vapor 9 Tour Limited Edition shoe (White & Red sole) for $130 plus tax and of course shipping.....boy am I disappointed now less than 2 months of ownership. You know that feeling like you have just had your wallet pick pocketed by a con job. This is how I feel unfortunately today. :cry::oops:

    I can't begin to explain the care I have taken to keep my Nike Zoom Vapor 9 in tip top condition and looking white after each and every match I clean them carefully, which is only twice a week playing mild indoors sessions. I use a Tide stick to remove any black marks and then a paper towel to wipe clean so they look almost new....I do this every time and I'm not a hard core player with heavy feet.

    During play I carefully make sure not to drag hard my left shoe if I need to get a low volley etc. But shoe dragging is a good form in tennis so why make a TOUR shoe that can't stand up to even brief mild shoe dragging. Seriously?????

    To my dismay, the mesh on the shoe now has some holes and in some spots melting (mesh material seems like it's a plastic/fabric hybrid), I knew this was going to be a problem. Nike should have extended the toe drag barrier further to the side of the shoe but instead decided to leave it with mesh. This design was NO accident Nike knew what they were doing because they realized that people would wear these shoes out in less than a month or two and just go buy a few more pairs at $130 per pair.

    Nike's City Court VII WIDE Men's shoe sells for $55 almost 1/3 less and will last 3 times much longer than the Zoom Vapor 9 Zoom that cost $130+.

    As a Nike customer, I feel that I am being tricked by a corporation that wants to sell me what seems to "look" like an expensive shoe but is really cheap constructed shoe materials. The tongue on the inside looks like someone with scissors cut the sides exposing the yellow foaming.....cheap!! The mesh lasts as long as a Kleenex.
    Nike is no longer interested in making a value and quality product in a shoe which is a path or road that's leading to destroying a great company. People are stupid like myself and bought the hype of the best shoe ever....not even close. I'm going to boycott Nike Vapor shoes until this problem is fixed.

    The mesh on the shoe is probably a little thicker than that of a two ply paper towel,,.(okay joking but pretty close). The mesh is so so cheap Nike should me embarrassed they even made these shoes and advertised them as the Roger Federer's tournament shoe....that's insulting.

    The shoe does offer lightness/looks and comfort but I need it to last one season minimum especially for my occasional playing on hard court they did cost $130! This could have been avoided if their toe guard was properly designed but someone higher up the corporate ladder knew people would buy more shoes if we make them fall apart after a few months use.

    Here below are a few new pics of my complaints which clearly show the beginning stages of mesh shredding and a little bit of the (drag on) toe wearing down. It is so easy to burn a whole through these shoes in just one practice session with that mesh if you're not careful.

    The bottom line is for the money these shoes should be MUCH better quality. They should fire the person who said lets put MESH on a tennis shoe so that they wear out in a month and have customers buy more shoes. Even La Ning can make a better shoe that will last longer.....seriously c'mon Nike stop being so CHEAP!!!!

    I don't recommend these shoes at all unless you are absolutely in love and have ordered 7 pairs to make it past one season. I now have to take my shoes to a shoe repair shop and see if they can stitch real white leather in those spots that are exposed mesh holes near the sole. The mesh is going to wear out very, very quickly no matter how careful you play. I'm a 4.5 player with good technique and hardly drag but do have to tilt my left foot for obvious low volley shots or slices etc. This shoe does not measure up to the hype in terms of quality.

    These are pictures of my left shoe, I'm a right handed player.

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  2. Bartelby

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    Nike has been like this a long time and they're not going to change. Its a company overly devoted to marketing.
     
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    My eyes hurt reading this...
     
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    Oddly, I've never worn a hole in any shoes in that spot. Maybe it's not the deliberate design feature/flaw that you think, rather that you don't wear your shoes in the typical locations that the majority do. Nike can't cater for everything and still make the shoe so it needs (basically) no wearing in. As some point there has to be a downside. Your particular wear pattern has found it.
     
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    How worn are your soles? I have a few pairs of the Vapor 9's, and even on my most worn pair where the soles are almost completely smooth, the mesh hasn't been worn down at all. I also don't know of anyone that drags the top of their foot on the court.
     
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    Sorry I typed it out using my iPhone and it didn't come out as I wanted and it was really late. In any event, you get the idea. I should have proof read it more carefully. Unfortunately the edit button is no longer active for me to correct some grammar made with the iPhone as the cursor jumps around.

    Cheers.
     
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    If my wear pattern were any more minimal I may as well just frame the shoes. My soles are completely fine no problems there at all they look brand new. It's the side mesh without the proper toe guard in place that is shredding the mesh. Many, many players drag their left shoe side of their toe especially when sliding or reaching for a shot... how can you not? I see it hundreds of times with all players playing at my club this is the most common type of tennis movement. I can't always tipi toe over to a shot so I don't tear the mesh on the side of shoe....seriously. The design is terrible as I stated I feel robbed by Nike.
     
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  8. ramos77

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    dont mean to be rude, but if you did your research you would know the vapors are light, quick and comfortable shoes.

    they are not designed to last like the barricade's for example.

    you probably need the 4.3 CB's. they have rubber where you have worn your shoe down.
     
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    I did do my research I've owned Vapors for many years and not had a problem because there was never a mesh material like the Vapors 9 have now....this is a problem with the shoes not me. It means the shoes are getting inferior to previous seasons.
     
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    Your shoes aren't going to stay perfect for ever. Do you like expect them to stay white for 6 months? As tennis players, our sport probably gives the most wear and tear on our shoes.
     
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    this is a good warning for me - buying new shoes soon...not hearing good things about durability on these shoes...
     
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    Lightweight or durable.

    Pick one.
     
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    I disagree about the Vapor 9's. I own 5 pairs and I absolutely love them. All 5 pairs are still in great shape and I rotate them out. I am a teaching pro so I am on the court quite a bit. I personally like the mesh better than the SL version. I have the Madrid and FO in the SL and the Flame and most recent signal blue and silver in the mesh.... sorry I lied, I only own 4 pairs :( Anyway I think these shoes are great so maybe you got a bad pair. If you want them to look clean then don't buy all white shoes. I think the OP should have thought more about durability and color if he is complaining after 2 months. Are you sure you did not put them in the washing machine and tore up the mesh??
     
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    How the hell did you manage to melt your vapors? LOL
     
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    +1

    I am a competitive junior, play about 6 days a week, and the Vapor 9s are my favorite shoes. I have 3 pairs that I rotate through, and they seem to be holding up nicely. There also seems to be reinforcement in the areas that I drag my toes. I honestly tried to drag my foot so the part you [OP] showed would scrape the ground, and I felt like I was going to break my ankle!
     
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  16. gavna

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    Exactly......plus any lightweight shoe is going to be less durable.period. You have to weigh the options between lightweight performance vs durability. Look at the old Tretorns - amazing light and comfortable shoe but jeez you were lucky to get 4 or 5 sets out of them on hard courts. But wow they felt like slippers on your feet.

    Plus washing your shoes is kinda.........bit much. Wee bit anal.
     
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    Agree. I throw my shoes in the washer now and then when they get smelly during the summer season and thats about it.
     
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    I think what the OP is getting to is that for a $130 shoe, he expected a little more quality.

    People may argue about durability vs. comfort, vapors vs. barricades, etc. etc. but he raises valid points. It's marketed as a Tour shoe and with that price point, quality should be better, regardless if the shoe is "lightweight" or not.

    Are we really that brainwashed on buying $100 shoes that will only last a few weeks?
     
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  19. jokinla

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    I started playing in the mid 80's and the Nike shoes were just as crappy then as now, don't buy them unless they have that guarantee thing, although i don't have experience with Nike and guarantees so maybe that's not even a good idea, but just a normal shoe is gonna fall apart. And you certainly shouldn't be concerned with shoe conservation during a match of any real consequence.
     
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    Yes, people kill each other over a pair of Jordan's.

    These shoes last a lot longer than a few weeks if you take care of them and don't drag your feet like a clod. If your prone to being hard on your shoes then buy something else. Pretty simple.
     
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    I agree with BHiC- I got bored and the only way I could possibly tear the corner of the mesh was if I got hung up on the fence. What kind of shots are you hitting that require you to slide on a hard court with the top front of your left toe? Is this Monfiels?
     
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    What a ridiculous thread. Vapor 9 are the best shoes I ever had and no mesh problems for me. Nothing lasts forever, buddy. But they last a very long time for me.
     
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    LOLOLOL I agree
     
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    If you hate the mesh that much just get the SL version. I have them and they are great, however I hope to purchase mesh for my next pair.
     
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    LOL. I had no idea that toe dragging was good form, I guess I need to add that to my list of things to work on in my game!
     
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    I don't know how you skip from "...the shoe[']s not for me" to "...the shoes are getting inferior...."


    The shoe's not for you means the shoe is NOT for you. It doesn't mean the shoe is getting worse. Maybe the shoe for you is the Vapor 8 Tour.

    As for quality - that is a perceived issue. Your perception of quality seems to be in terms of measurable durability - not the marketed weight-performance ratio that Nike is selling.
     
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  27. Hollywood2

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    The color isn't my biggest complaint the fabric around the most important part of the shoe is.
     
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    I beg to differ I'm the same player the shoes are lasting much shorter periods in terms of lifespan. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that mesh and tennis shoes don't go well together. If they do then they must be designed properly if the spot in my pictures was covered with rubber drag on protection instead of just mesh this would be a MUCH better shoe. Placing mesh so close and low to the shoe near the sole is a very poor decision.
     
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    Find me a top pro player that doesn't drag their side toe even mildly. Every player does it it's part of the game you're not going bend both knees straight down to hit certain shots then pop back up again. What's your level again a 5.0 and you don't know this?
     
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    Listen the mesh is good to help the shoe breathe and stay cool. The beef I have is that Nike placed the mesh at a critical spot or area that's primed to wear out very rapidly as you can see in the picture of my left shoe. Do we really need to buy 7 pairs to get past one season. I'm guessing Nike hopes so. Sorry they can find a sucker somewhere else no more Vapor 9's for me. Not interested in spending $130 a month on shoes with minimal use.
     
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    I'm not even going to really answer this question. I'm right handed the pictures are of the left shoe. Think about tennis and the physics of the ball and I'm sure you can figure it out.
     
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    I don't put my shoes in the washing machine ever. If I had 4-5 pairs like you did and just hit balls from a hopper most of the day I guess I wouldn't have this problem either. But I have one pair that I take care of and play carefully with.
     
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    The only thing ridiculous is that I paid $130 for a shoe that hasn't even lasted two months with minimal use. I wasn't saying they need to last forever sir what I'm saying is they should last a season not two months. My last Vapors that I had lasted for 3 years.
     
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    Ok, relax buddy. It's just a pair of shoes. I'm sure Nike won't care if you buy another pair or not, they're selling like hotcakes to people who've been looking for this type of shoe for a while. The shoe is not for everyone, move on!
     
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    I am relaxed Borrelli and they're not just shoes they are $130 shoes not $30. I'm not going to beat a dead horse here but I don't really care what Nike thinks or you. I posted the thread to inform other buyers who actually want to know if they are really getting what they have paid for so they can make an informed decision. Your comment is completely meaningless.
     
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    Not sure what rock you've been under for the past 8 months but pretty sure everyone on this forum knows these shoes have low durability. That's why Nike makes different models. Everyone knows to buy the 4.3 Court Ballistecs if with the 8 month warranty if they are worried about durability. Good luck :)
     
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    Borrelli, I haven't been under a rock and understood the durability issue that's why I didn't rush out to buy 8 months ago. I did read the forums prior to purchasing but everything is relative to ones own style and intensity of play. Someone may play and practice almost everyday for hours and go through a pair in a month others like myself play twice a week and doubles no less and it's not hard core therefore I took the risk in assuming that these shoes should last me at least a season with proper care. I haven't seen pictures of peoples complaints of their Vapor 9's so I decided to inform others to the pitfalls and provide pictures so that they can make a better buying decision. I don't have the luxury of owning 5-7 pairs per season and for my use I shouldn't have to.

    For the record my friend owns the Court Ballistecs and he's replaced them 3 times in 3 months as the lacing holding system is made from thin fabric that very easily breaks when lacing up your shoes...he is on his third set now the Nike Breathe 2K12 have the same defective lacing problem but only on one side as the other side of the laces of the 2K12 are held using the rubber or plastic and not the fabric. Zoom in closely to the pics of the shoes and you will see the lacing fabric issue. The store where he bought them from won't accept anymore returns or exchanges. The Court Ballistecs are not the answer either and strike out for the Nike Breathe 2K12.

    Nike needs to get back to making a quality shoe product and stop cutting corners especially on shoes.

    Regards.
     
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    The Vapour 10 will be $140 and will surely alter the course of the sport for decades to come.

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    You clearly bought the wrong shoe for your style of play. Just looking at the design, if you have a habit of dragging the side of your foot you should have gotten something with a cage over the entire front of the foot such as: Breathe 2k12, CB, or B7.

    If you're trying something for the first time maybe you should have bought a previous season colorway for $99 to see if you like it.
     
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    If you played on carpet, then it's kind of expected. One month of playing indoors (carpet) eats sole of my shoes more than 4 months playing on red clay. It's simply crazy abrasive, and any friction from skidding simply melts plastics/polyuretane on you shoes.
     
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    Alright, I have thought about the physics of a tennis ball. I still can't see how a majority of the people can drag their toes like that. Honestly when I tried to recreate wearing that part of your shoe, I assumed that you were right handed and this was the left shoe. I still felt like my ankle was going to break! I told you, I play 20+ hrs a week, and my shoes do not have ANY wear at the spot you showed. I think that this is just an unlucky case of that the shoe is not build for someone who moves like you do. Not every shoe is perfect for every style of movement, and I think you found the one that doesn't hold up to your style. Not everyone has your style of movement, and I would bet that the majority of tennis players do not wear that spot on their shoes. This does not mean the shoes are bad for everyone, they just are for you. It also does not mean that everyone who doesn't move like you is bad at tennis.

    Ok, I completely agree with this, but the OP did not have a problem with the sole durability of the shoe. He burnt a hole through a spot that Nike was assuming the majority of tennis players would not wear out on their shoes.
     
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    I know plenty of people who burn it on the side first ^
    When you reach for a ball on a slice, you foot naturally goes on the side.
     
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  44. BHiC

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    I stand corrected :oops:
     
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    The shoes aren't for you, thats why there are about 12 different brands...
     
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    As others have mentioned, the Vapor line isn't the most durable. That said, I have plenty of Vapor 6's kicking around. The tops look almost NEW! Yet, they all wear out at the big toe for me. I get wearing just up from that at the tip of the shoe, but none of mine have any wear close to the wear on the OP's shoes.

    I don't think I've ever seen anyone drag that part of the shoe on hard court (clay, sure while sliding). I think Nike could make this shoe a touch more durable but many of us like them b/c of the lightweight qualities. I'd change your technique on hard court...seems like it would be a good thing to do in preventing an ankle roll as well. But I don't think Nike would be responsible for something like this. Find a shoe that has good protection in the area you drag and you'll be good to go.
     
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    Patiently waiting for the Annacone Vapour 10.
     
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    I don't see anything wrong in the pictures. This is ridiculous, shoes are mean't to be worn, not looked at.
     
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    I play close to 5 hours everyday and these shoes only wear in the normal places. The toe drag guard is the only area on t eupper that shows wear. If you are wear out the TOP of your shoe then you're doing somethign wrong.
     
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    isn't the two rectangular panels on the inside of the foot designed for dragging. The location that you are destroying just seems like bad form.
     
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