No consistency on forehand to much wrist

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  1. FailBetter

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    So pros said that im using to much wrist on my forehand. I think thats true.
    Im trying to hit with lots of topspin but im doing this with wrist rotation and so i have no consistency..

    how can I change this? want to hit with lots of spin but "correctly and not with the wrist rotation..

    any tips? I want to change this Picture of this "wristy swing "in my head but thats not so easy if you dont know the right one.. :(
     
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  2. heninfan99

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    Wrist Assist!
     
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  3. Topspin Shot

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    There isn't a simple answer to your question. The biggest key to ball control is to keep the racket face angle constant throughout the hitting zone. The Wrist Assist will force you to do this by blocking your wrist from flexing forward much. However, elite players do use their wrist a lot as part of the kinetic chain but are still able to keep the face constant. Ideally, this is how you should hit the forehand, but it takes practice to maintain racket control, and you have to make sure you use your wrist as part of the kinetic chain. Otherwise, your stroke will be too wristy, which will cost you power and might lead to injury.
     
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  4. user92626

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    I think one or two of the basic foundations is off for you. Balance, swing path, adjustment, etc.?

    If one or two things are completely off and you are trying to go over a threshold, inconsistency and unpredictability will occur.

    So, back up a little. Slow down, hit softer. Find that threshold. Once you identify it, you'll know when you go over it the thing you do that is wrong will stand out!

    (Obviously we are all very consistent when we slow down enough)
     
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  5. FailBetter

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    what do you think about this:

    "Tip: On your followthrough, one way to keep yourself from rolling your wrist over at or right after contact is to catch the racket in your non-racket hand at the end of your swing, but any method you can use to stop rolling your wrist is fine. Correcting this idiosyncrasy will increase your forehand consistency."
     
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  6. Tight Lines

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    By "wrist rotation" what do you mean? Do you mean wrist flexing or wrist radially deviating? Big difference.

    Harry
     
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  7. LeeD

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    1. Don't TRY to hit with lots of topspin.
    2. Spread your fingers.
    3. Increase grip size.
    4. Aim for corners and good placement, not silly added spin.
     
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  8. FailBetter

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    I think radially deviating. Flexing is normal, isnt it?
     
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  9. Tight Lines

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    There may be multiple issues going on here. Your wrist should be laid back (extended) and should not flex until the ball is struck. That wrist assist device that Heninfan referred to may help you there.

    As for radial deviation of your wrist, I think you are trying to describe a windshield wiper type motion. If you are too wristy in that sense, I would suggest hitting low to high without any wrist motion until you strike the ball. This sounds like an obvious advice, but you would be surprised how people don't do this. Good luck.

    Harry
     
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    Grip size 5 is the answer :)
     
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  11. FailBetter

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    yes youre right. it is that windshield wiper motion picture in my head and I am doing this to much with my wrist. Btw is it possible to hit ww without this wrist rotation?
     
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  12. FailBetter

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    Last year i play with size 4 and my wrist began to hurt..
    now im down to 3 and its ok
     
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  13. fuzz nation

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    You could experiment on the practice courts (NOT playing points in a set, tie-break, etc.) with an especially heavy racquet that forces you to employ more of your "big muscles" to effectively swing through the ball and generate topspin.

    If you are too wristy now, it could be the case that the weight of your racquet is letting you get away with that. When I tried working out with a heavy, dead Prestige mid a few years ago (leaded up to 13.4 oz.), it forced me to be much more deliberate with my preparation in order to produce a repeatable forehand. The racquet was simply too heavy to be wristy through contact, but when I engaged my full "kinetic chain", I could produce as much pace and topspin as I wanted while swinging with a rather passive wrist.

    On the practice court, we can better monitor what we're doing compared with playing points. In competition, we tend to swing more unconsciously as we focus more on what's happening across the net. Whenever I recommend this idea of trying a "training racquet", I like to point out how important it is to avoid that competitive setting and its inherent unconscious swinging with this different frame in hand. Using a heavy training racquet is more about addressing footwork and swing habits than point management.
     
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  14. Topspin Shot

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    Depends on the grip. You can flex your wrist some with a semi-western and a lot with a full western without changing the angle of the racket face.
     
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  15. FailBetter

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    i have really problems with that angle of the rackt face..

    when i dont hit with a intensity of 8/10 the balls fly somwehre to the fence.. it is a scream:mad:

    And backhand is absolutely no problem for me..
     
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  16. Curiosity

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    Is it possible? Yes, it is. I agree with Harry's comment above as a start.

    If you keep your wrist back for stability, as others have mentioned, and take the ball a bit in front, which you should, you can still generate lots of semi-windshied wiper:

    Let the upward rotation come from your shoulder/arm, not your hand/wrist. There is something your forearm can do that will contribute: Just flex the large muscles in your forearm (not your wrist/lower forearm small muscles) into the hit –they are already stretched out a bit. When you flex them (this takes a bit of desk-side practice) the effect will be to rotate the racquet up, with the shoulder-based rotation, without affecting your laid-back wrist. Given that you are wristy now, you may have to intensionally 'freeze' your wrist when you first start the forearm squeeze (or even the shoulder/arm-based rotation).
     
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  17. Carefree

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    Maybe more shoulder rotation (longer swing). Sometimes when I'm "wristy", it's because I'm late and I snatch at the ball a little.

    So, I guess it's like every other tennis stroke answer. Better footwork, get set up earlier.
     
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  18. movdqa

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    You might try hitting forehands with an old-school racquet that weighs around 14 oz. It's a lot harder to be really wristy with those and generate decent power. They will force you to watch the ball better too as the headsizes were only 65 sq in. There are some that are bigger though.
     
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  19. johndagolfer

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    One thing I see with my high schoolers when they are being too wristy is that they are losing extension in the hitting arm. I am not saying keep the arm straight but do not collapse the elbow.

    Some check points I would check for consistency are:

    1) Hit the ball out in front (basically extending)
    2) Don't scoop, this opens the racquet head and often sends balls long
    3) Be sure you prepare early and use good windshield wiper technique with shoulder
     
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