No Options available... Should I panic?

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  1. AbsolutTennis

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    Dear friends: I’m looking for a HEAVY (11.8 oz +), 95 sq. in frame, with a 16 X 18 string pattern. And a decent SW. I am a long time Pro Staff 95 and Donnay Pro One International (Tennis Warehouse Edition) user. Just ran out of the last racquets I had. Are the Six.One BLX and the Bio 200 Tour the ONLY options available in the market? Is it time to get desperate? Should I panic and go back to the POG mid (I used them in college, 20 yrs. ago…). Really appreciate all the help I can get!
     
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  2. LeeD

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    Most every company still makes a heavy small frame, just look it up under shop tennis warehouse and go to each company.
     
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    Gamma Tour 330X
     
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    There are several available. Just use the tw racquet finder.

    John
     
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  5. db10s

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    What's wrong with the Dunlop?
     
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  6. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    No one in the top 10 uses a Dunlop. Therefore, it must be crap.
     
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  7. sureshs

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    Bio 200 Tour
     
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  8. Hidious

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    4D 200 Tour hands down.
     
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  9. MikeHitsHard93

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    Look at technifibre sticks
     
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    Second this !
     
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  11. AbsolutTennis

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    Thanks LeeD. I'm trying to stick to the 95 sq. in. with a 16X18 pattern. If I'm not able to, than I'll look into some other specs. Thanks again!
     
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  12. AbsolutTennis

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    Thanks edman9898! Sounds like an option. It's no longer available at TW, but I should be able to find it at other places. Will look at it !
     
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  13. AbsolutTennis

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    Thanks John! That's what I did. Only two CURRENT frames on a 95 sq. in head, 16 X 18, heavy and high sw. Got frustrated in realizing that... Thanks again!
     
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  14. AbsolutTennis

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    Nothing wrong with Dunlop as a brand. Played with the 200G before going to the POG mid. I think the Bio 200 Tour will be a little too heavy, and the SW might be a little too high for me. Kinda aging "right now", but will give it a try (since I have only two options in the market).
     
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  15. AbsolutTennis

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    They are indeed making some weird decisions regarding positioning and marketing. Maybe the qualities of their products is going in the same direction...
     
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    Thanks sureshs! I think the Bio 200 Tour will be a little too heavy, and the SW might be a little too high for me. Kinda aging "right now", but will give it a try (since I have only two options in the market).
     
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  17. AbsolutTennis

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    Thanks Hidious!! I will try the Bio 200 Tour, which I think will be a little too heavy, and the SW might be a little too high for me. Kinda aging "right now". How does the 4D Tour compare to the Bio 200 Tour? Thanks!
     
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  18. AbsolutTennis

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    Thanks Mike ! It's one of the options I like IF I can't find a 95 with a 16 X 19 string pattern.
     
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  19. AbsolutTennis

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    Thanks CED ! Will check it out ! No longer available at TW, but I should be able to find it!
     
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  20. jheckart

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    Head prestige pro is 16 x 19 and seems to fit your requirements.
     
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  21. Brian72

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    Volkl organix 10 mid. It's 93 sq inch.
     
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    Perhaps something from the 1990s? Time to visit the bay.
     
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    pacific x feel pro
    slazenger pro braided + lead
    Donnays
     
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    Gamma Rzr95. Looks like it's designed to add lead to the hoop.

    Head Size:
    95 sq. in. / 612.9 sq. cm.
    Length: 27in / 68.58cm
    Strung Weight: 11.5oz / 326.02g
    Balance: 8 pts HL
    Swingweight: 303
    Stiffness: 65
    Beam Width: 20mm / 20mm / 21mm /
    Composition: Graphite & Texalium
    String Pattern:
    16 Mains / 18 Crosses
     
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  25. Vasuri

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    Head IG Prestige Pro. It is close to your requirements. Head is size quoted as 98, but it is effectively 95/96 size. 16x19 strings
     
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  26. polytheist

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    just get the BLX Six One already
     
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  27. fuzz nation

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    I moved on from my old 6.1 Classics to the Volkl C10. Although that model is a 98" frame, it plays like a rather lean machine for me. While some racquets with 98"-100" hoops have seemed somewhat "clunky" to me, this Volkl has been a rather welcome exception... opinions vary.

    Pretty sure that Yonex has a 95" option these days, but you may also enjoy one of their mids. Although they have technically smaller heads, they play larger than their numbers suggests. A Yonex mid may deliver feel and performance much more in keeping with an oval-shaped 95" alternative.

    That Pacific frame that was suggested above could be a smart one to sample, too.
     
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  28. spinovic

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    From what I can see, here are your options,

    With 16x18 string pattern:

    Gamma RZR 95 - 11.5 oz, 303 SW, 8 pts HL
    Mantis Tour 305 - 11.2 oz, 304 SW, 6 pts HL
    Slazenger Pro Braided - 11.5 oz, 330 SW, 4 pts HL
    Wilson BLX Six.One 95 - 12.2 oz, 324 SW, 10 pts HL


    If you're willing to bend on the string pattern:

    Dunlop Biomimetic M 2.0 - 11.7 oz, 326 SW, 6 pts HL, 16x19
    Pacific X Feel Pro 95 - 11.9 oz, 320 SW, 6 pts HL, 16x19
    Tecnifibre TFight 325 TP - 12.1 oz, 326 SW, 7 pts HL, 18x19
    Yonex VCORE 95 D - 11.9 oz, 317 SW, 7 pts HL, 16x20
    Head Youtek IG Prestige Pro - 12.2 oz, 321 SW, 6 pts HL, 16x19
    Head Youtek IG Radical Pro - 11.4 oz, 330 SW, 3 pts HL, 16x19


    The Wilson BLX Six.One 95 is the only racquet that meets your exact specs. The Slazenger Pro-Braided is next closest, but a little under your target weight.

    As previously mentioned, the Head Prestige (and Radical) racquets are actually 95 in versus the 98 that is listed. The Radical Pro is a little under your target weight as well, but I included it because, IMO, it plays heavier than its weight. If you can live with a 16x19 pattern, I'd recommend trying both of the Head racquets.
     
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  29. AbsolutTennis

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    Thanks jheckart! Will definitely look at it !
     
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  30. AbsolutTennis

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    Hello Brian72. Definitely an option. I did play with the C10 Pro Tour for a while and loved it. The Fiberglass on the Volkl racquets make them similar in feel to the Donnay Pro One International (TW Edition) and Puma Becker's. I can't tell by the pictures if the C10 has the same head shape as the PB10 Mid or a more round one. Have you had the chance to compare both?
     
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  31. AbsolutTennis

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    Thanks Slowfox! Already checked it out. Didn't find anything I liked (and what I liked was too expensive).
     
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  32. AbsolutTennis

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    Thanks Sander001!
     
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  33. AbsolutTennis

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    Thanks Vasuri! Definitely an option !
     
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  34. AbsolutTennis

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    Realy thinking about it ! Other than the ugly pj imo, nothing wrong with it. I just initially thought I could get something more flexible. Thanks!
     
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  35. AbsolutTennis

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    Thanks a lot fuzz nation !
     
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  36. AbsolutTennis

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    Thanks for the list spinovic. Great stuff! The Slazengers and Mantis have too low a sw for me. Other than that, I'll carefully take a look at your list. Thanks again!
     
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    I haven't played with the C10 Pro. However, I did play with the PB10 MID. The Organix 10 Mid has the same head shape as the PB10 Mid. I really liked the PB10 and wish I would have hung on to it. I currently play with the Becker Melbourne and I'm really enjoying this racquet. At the time I sold the PB10 Mid, I felt like I need a little more power and forgiveness. Since then, my game has really improved and I've been playing with the Melbourne and the Dunlop 4D 200 Tour. Chris Edwards actually compared the C10, Pb10 and the Organix in another thread. Here's the quote:

    I haven't hit with the Organix yet, but it is right in my ideal spec and based on my experience with Volkl and Becker Racquets, I'm excited to get one.

    Hope this helps. Look forward to seeing what you end up trying.
     
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  38. AbsolutTennis

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    First of all, I really would like to thank you all for taking the time to help me out. I really appreciated it!

    Leed, Edman9898, Dode, Dbs10s, SayChiSinLo, Sureshs, Hidious, MikeHitsHard, Ced, JHeckart, Slowfox,PKFan1, Sander001, Polytheist, Fuzz Nation, and Spinovic.

    Awesome stuff, friends!

    So far, these are the racquets I've chosen to test:

    - Bio 200 Tour
    - Prestige Pro 16 X 19
    - Gamma Tour 330X
    - Volkl Organix 10 Mid
    - Head Radical Pro
    - Wilson 6.1 16X18

    And the list is almost done…

    However, I might have one more addition to make to the list, and, again, I would like to have your input on this one:

    - Yonex VCore 97 Tour...

    What do you guys think about this one, considering the racquets above and the two frames I'm targeting (i.e. Pro Staff 6.0 95 Original and Donnay Pro One International TW Edition)?

    A good friend just got a couple of these Yonex’s and told me they play great and I should give them a try. He used to have a pretty high ranking and knows his stuff.

    I’ve had two bad experiences with Yonex frames (RD 7 and RD Ti 80) and I agree with Brad Gilbert when he says Yonex racquets are not good for TOPspin. They are good for other types of spin, but not topspin (I play with LOTS of Topspin, both sides).

    However, apparently, this specific one (Vcore 97) plays a little differently than other Yonex’s and it seems like a racquet I would like to have on my racquet bag. I like the design and the appeal the brand and the racquet have.

    Should I add it to the list?

    Thanks again !!!!!
     
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  39. VeeSe

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    You picked a good list (guess I'm biased because I use the IG Radical Pro myself), but I wouldn't shy away from the lower SW racquets, since you can just lead up any frame to be more to your liking. As long as the frame feels good, lead tape is all you need to get it to your desired weight, balance, and SW!
     
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    Besides the Vcore 97 there is also the Vcore 95D, which is very close to your original specs, except 16X20.

    Also, though I don't think you can demo it, Vantage International has custom 95 sq. inch racquets.
     
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    If I might offer my two cents, and of course, I'm a little biased because I seem to like HEAD racquets better than the rest (at least the few I've tried). I'd suggest the Radical and Prestige Pros. I'm currently demoing them myself. I haven't had the time to fully try them out, but if I had to pick one right now, I'd go with the Prestige. But, I like stiffer racquets. The Radical seemed like it may be a little too soft for my taste, but we'll see. I'll hopefully get to give it a good run this weekend.
     
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  42. spinovic

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    Never mind. Should have finished the thread first. Looks like you already have them on your list.

    Also, if you don't mind moving up above 95, you might consider the Volkl Organix 10. I'll probably demo that one in the next few weeks myself.

    I use the HEAD Extreme Pro 2.0. Can't say enough good things about it. I love it. The stiffness rating scares some people away, but the racquet feels solid, not stiff, IMO. Anyway, if you want to get crazy and try a 100 sq. in., I'd highly recommend it.

    FWIW, I'm currently trying out the VCORE 89. The head size is obviously smaller, but other than that, the specs are similar to the 97 it seems. I wish I'd have tried the 97. I'm not good enough for the 90 or less heads.
     
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  43. NLBwell

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    It's still hard to beat a Prince Graphite (POG) Mid. If you don't still have one lying around the house, it might be worth demoing.

    The natural choice would be Wilson 6.1 95 (BLX Amplifeel is the most recent) but I never personally could get at all comfortable with it coming from an old Pro Staff. I use the Microgel Prestige Pro, which is softer than the newer versions.
     
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  44. spinovic

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    I like the Prestige Pro better than the BLX 95 16x18, personally.
     
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