No1e's Racquet

Discussion in 'Pros' Racquets and Gear' started by Fabfed, Jul 16, 2011.

  1. jimbo333

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    Exactly what I was describing in my "radical becomes a prestige" post from a year or two ago!

    And did you see my post where I pointed out that this mold above (only with 16x19 string pattern) is actually very similar to the blacked out racket that Federer is currently using?

    Federer is near enough trying out the mold of Murray's racket:shock:

    I also pointed out that when multiple Grand Slam winners eventually change rackets, after using the same one for most of their career, they often never win another GS title. Connors, Lendl and Wilander being prime examples. I really don't think Federer should change rackets now.
     
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  2. Lukhas

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    He actually builds his buttcap, so he actually uses all the grip. You wouldn't save much, since you'd actually use more than half of the overgrip to wrap enough of the handle for one hand. I tried it, used about 2/3 of the overgrip and left with one useless third. EDIT: As of now, he wraps it all the way to the top. I don't know if he uses one grip and something else to build the buttcap or if he uses two grips. But his overgrip is still wrapped over his buttcap, which can be seen when he changes it on some changeovers during matches.
     
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    Wow, thank you for the information. I use the Technifibre T-Fight 315, which is very similar to the Prestige. I think its a great a great mold in general, not surprised so many pros use it, and variants of it.
     
  4. Tennisguy777

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    If Nole is using a 98, then how big is Andy's stick cause I thought andy was using a 98. Andy's stick definitely looks smaller than Noles.
     
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  6. ENJOY TENNIS

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    The Babolat (Roddick) is totally diffrent of the PurĂȘ Drive Roddick (100)?
     
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  8. ENJOY TENNIS

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    Ok. You are right.
     
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    Oh my God. I wish I have a day talking with VsBabolat about Head racquets. You're my true idol!

    I think you should share your huge knowledge by making a system of descriptions and reviews on every single racquet manufactured by Head, both commercial stocks and pro stocks. Maybe on your Facebook, blog or here in Talk tennis.
     
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    Wow. This is an awesome thread!
     
  11. donnaypro

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    So would it be safe to say that Nole's racquet would have the same flex as a retail microgel radical mp?
     
  12. Arvid

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    Well that would be impossible to know of course unless you owned his actual racket and tested the flex as pros have different custom layups of their rackets even if they are using a particular model....
     
  13. Overdrive

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    By cutting the overgrips in half? Hmm..

    I have lead placed in the upper-half of the half, so I can't do that.
     
  14. leoresende2007

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    Which grip shape does Djokovic use? Wilson or Head?
     
  15. dr325i

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    Head......
     
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    does nole put lead on 12 o clock position of his racquet? aside from 7-8/5-4 o clock?
     
  17. dr325i

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    He puts it from 8-11.5 and 12.5-4, but not at 12
     
  18. FedererKing

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    4 1/2 with two overgrips as stated by Nate from Priority 1
     
  19. FedererKing

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    Im currently in the process of bringing a LM Rad MP up to his specs. Got everything calculated. Have added weight to handle. All that remains is adding the lead (pretty much) around the hoop. Will let you guys know how this beast plays. I'm building from a stock LM Rad MP and using a bunch of online calculators - came up with the following end specifications: 359 W, 371.1 SW, 5.2 HL. I know its (approximately) 0.2 HL more than his supposed frame, but it's the closest I can get it to his spec. If we bear in mind that he uses a vibration dampener and I use an elastic band, maybe the weight difference will correct that somewhat. Other than that, we probably won't know for sure what racquet he uses, but I'm inclined to believe that the flex is really low.
    I've read almost all the threads about Fed's racquet (especially around the time of the K90) - actually I've read those threads like 10 times. From all the information I read/understood, pro's actually play with rather flex-y frames. Their high SW and more HH (relatively) balance makes up for the power one loses when playing with a more flex racquet as opposed to a stiffer one. I remember some pro posted that he had tried a K90 that belonged to some female pro, spec-ed very close to Fed's and said that he was astounded at how soft it was.
    Anyway, except for a minor difference in feel (if it's such a big deal I'd go get a pt57a with a 53-57RA rating instead of a LM with a 64RA), I think we can all achieve something very very close to Novak's racquet. Whether we can wield it is another matter.
    Generally, I would say that it would be better to build Novak's racquet from a MG Rad because of the lower flex (57RA), lower static weight (312 as opposed to 318 for the LM) and more HH balance. However, I too noticed the difference in the throat beam width and I think the LM painjob looks nicer lol :) In the end, I doubt at our level the flex difference would be that big a factor, so I'd recommend starting with a LM or MG and going from there. If you want to get as close as possible and have some extra cash to spend, go with the lower flex pt57a's, which would be great because they are super easy to customize (lol like 250g static weight - customization dream racquet)
    srry for the long post lol
     
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    Oh and I forgot to say that I saw some of you guys discussing where exactly he puts his lead. I'd say it's not that important. His specs are. You could have two different racquets and similar flex ratings, but if you spec them the same, they will almost feel the same. What I'm trying to say is that if we imagine Novak's flex is say 55 and we are sure of all his stats: 359 W, 371 SW, 4.8/5.0 HL, then a MG Rad with a 57 flex spec-ed to those numbers is going to play the same (or soooo close).
    If you look at his lead placement in the photos, he puts so much lead on (and some of that could be double layered etc..), that it's got to be a super low static weight racquet mold or pro stock.
    In the end, stats are much more important than copying his racquet exactly (unless you wanna be clever and save yourself some lead by having two overgrips on, just like Novak lol :))
     
  21. FedererKing

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    Oh and lastly, if we go with the version that his current stick is low 60s flex and low 50s as believed by most, then perhaps a TGK 231.1, Microgel Radical MP mold in flexy form, with flex around 60 and a tight pattern?? maybe?
     
  22. FedererKing

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    Sorry forgot a word lol
     
  23. dr325i

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    Wow, all that stuff..
    I had his racket and have put a few things about it.
    Your LM Radical cannot be brought to his spec as: the weight distribution and points of flex are totally different. His frame is a PT113B (FYI, the original i.Radical MP is a PT113A). The flex of his racket is 60 strung ( measured by Babolat machine). However, the feel and flex of it is like no other racket I tried.
    It is a 4 3/8 with two overgrips, head calfskin leather, however, the pallets are "extended" on the sides and making his handle even more rectangular.
    There is no silicone in the handle, but a chunk of lead that is drilled in for the weight adjustment.
    Weight is 358g, 33cm balance strung. SW=370.
     
  24. dr325i

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    The MG radical MP mold is different from Novak's racket. The MG mold bridge narrows down from the 21mm beam of the racket. The i.Radical/Ti.Radical mold is like his. Again , the layup is different on the PT113B
     
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    Is the balance 32 or 33 cm ?
     
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    33 strung.
     
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    Watching Nole in the semifinal of Abudabi against Stan and he has the new Speed PJ. It's so purdy. Love how it looks being held and used in an actual match.
     
  28. NikeUp

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    I second all of this. Spot on.
     
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    Damn, that puts his MgR/I at about 20.31, must have so much lag.
     
  30. NoZak Djokovic

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    Hi guys, can you help me prove someone wrong!

    What racquet is Nole actually using?

    And it may sound crazy but does he actually have any graphene in his racquet ?

    Thanks in advance
     
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    mwahahaha the person who i am trying to prove wrong is

    I think
     
  33. tennis_balla

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    Here's a photo I found on Instagram. Notice the "mesh" inside the throat area. I had Berdych's racket in my hand about 2 weeks ago and it had the graphene mesh bumps in that area as well.

    http://instagram.com/p/zQGH3CP57j/
     
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    Interesting.
     
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    So they got sophisticated enough to add the strange mesh thingy too.

    I hope you're not implying that they are using Graphene racquets because I can tell they aren't just by eye-balling their racquets.
     
  36. movdqa

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    Could just be a decal. It could be a decal on the retail frames too.
     
  37. tennis_balla

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    I am not implying anything. Just stating facts. Eye-balling is very scientific by the way. ;-)
     
  38. dr325i

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    Same thing with the previous PJ. Means nothing...
    I had posted detailed pictures somewhere...
     
  39. president.s

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    I Held berdych's racket at Rotterdam. No mesh bumps.
     
  40. tennis_balla

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    I'll take photos next time I give a lesson to my friend who's got them. Pro stock butt cap, totally different weight than stock and they have his name on them.
     
  41. tennis_balla

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    Head go to great lengths with their pj's that's for sure. Have seen it in the past. Not implying its Graphene, just showing whats in the photo.

    Btw, get you butt off TTW and go play! I wanna see some improvement when you come here again.
     

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