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  1. aimr75

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    On a pt57a i had, the lead was embedded in the frame handle.. what the process was to get it like that i dont know, but it could not be removed. The middle frame in the pic below:

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  2. dr325i

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    I have one FXP PJ with a similar thing...
     
  3. TennisLovaLova

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    Dear M. Fabfed,

    How do you store all your fabulous items?
    And WHERE?
    Please give me the exact adress (use google location) and digicode!
    I wont take anything I swear
     
  4. SuperDario

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    Once we get all the desired specs from FabFed, could somebody post an overview of all of them? I have tried to look at all the posts, but my understanding of the entire customization process is somewhat limited. Also, as somebody mentioned before, it would be interesting to see what retail racquet would be most easily customizable to be like Novak's.

    Thanks FabFed for a great thread!
     
  5. FEDERERNADAL13

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    From what I've Gathered:

    Roger:

    Headsize: 90 Sq. Inches
    Weight: 12.8 ounces (364 grams) strung
    Balance: 6 pts. HL
    Length: 27 inches
    String Pattern: 16 X 19
    Grip size: 4 3/8
    Swingweight: 355
    Strings: Wilson Natural Gut crossed with Luxi ALU rough
    Tension: 49.6 Lbs.
    Lead placement:8g at 12 o`clock

    Novak:

    Headsize: 98 Sq. Inches
    Weight: 12.66 ounces (359 grams) strung
    Balance: 5 pts. HL
    Length: 27 inches
    String Pattern: 18 X 20
    Grip size: N/A
    Swingweight: N/A
    Strings: ALU power strung with Babolat VS
    Tension: 59.52 Lbs.
    Lead placement: Some at 3 and 9 o`clock, some at 2 and 7 o`clock, some at 1 & 2, some at 10 & 11 (edited thanks to corners)

    Roddick (From another thread):

    Headsize: 100 Sq. Inches
    Weight: 12.1 ounces (345 grams) strung
    Balance: 5 pts. HL
    Length: 27.5 inches
    String Pattern: 16 X 19
    Grip size: 4 1/2
    Swingweight: 360
    Strings: Babolat PHT crossed with VS
    Tension: 65 Lbs.
    Lead placement: Lead from 7th cross to 17th

    Ferrer (another thread):

    Headsize: 100 Sq. Inches
    Weight: 11.9 ounces (337 grams) strung
    Balance: 6 pts. HL
    Length: 27.5 inches
    String Pattern: 16 X 18
    Grip size: 4 1/4
    Swingweight: 364
    Strings: Luxi BB original
    Tension: 51 Lbs.
    Lead placement: N/A

    Sam Querrey (another thread)

    Headsize: 98 Sq. Inches
    Weight: 12.2 ounces (346 grams) strung
    Balance: 8 pts. HL
    Length: 27.5 inches
    String Pattern: 16 X 20
    Grip size: > 4 3/8
    Swingweight: N/A
    Strings: Luxilon ALU power
    Tension: 60 Lbs.
    Lead placement: 8g at 3 o'clock, 8g at 9 o'clock
     
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  6. SuperDario

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    Awesome, thanks a lot.
     
  7. FEDERERNADAL13

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    No problem :)
     
  8. kiteboard

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    [​IMG] joker frame lead tape under grommets
    As you can see, he places lead under the grommets all the way around the hoop exept at high 12.
     
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    [​IMG] joker frame lead tape under grommets
    As you can see, he places lead under the grommets all the way around the hoop. So that puts the rest of the info under question.
     
  10. corners

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    There's no lead at 12, only at 10,11 & 2,1. Probably he finds that lead at 12 deadens the feel too much.
     
  11. FEDERERNADAL13

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    Updated, thanks :)
     
  12. kiteboard

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    Did you see where he took out the except at 12 in my post? Can't you see the lead under the see through grommet, going all the way down to wehre it starts on the inside of the frame?
     
  13. corners

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    Nobody took anything out of your post. I only read and quoted your second post, which made no mention of the lack of lead at 12.
     
  14. KTENNIS

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    FabFed, could you please post Nadal's specs?
    Epic thread, keep up the good work.
    :)
     
  15. tistrapukcipeht

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    The lead is more precisely ending at 11:30 and starting at 12:30 , lol , but yes no 12, but in the 12 zone.
     
  16. FEDERERNADAL13

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    All of the numbers except for the lead tape placement are/were measured. The lead tape figures were just eyeballed.
     
  17. ben123

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    huh

    from where do you have the sw from roddick and ferrer and actually the whole specs from ferrer..
     
  18. finalfantasy7

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    fabfed - have you ever played with djokovic racket? if so how does it feel
     
  19. FEDERERNADAL13

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    Roddick: from the thread with the guy who had a real roddick swirly PJ racket

    Ferrer: From the ferrer racket thread, based on the calculations of the posters there
     
  20. movdqa

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    There are comparatively speaking, a lot of Roddick racquets around (that I've seen sold in pro stock areas) compared to other players. Note that this is only for pro stocks where you can get the name of the player that they are for.
     
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    Afaik he doesnt really play with the frames, he just collects them...
     
  23. rb__11

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    obviously :D
     
  24. andreev_forehand

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    Great thread. I'm still curious about the gripsize. I've heard 4 1/2 somewhere before, and from the pics that looks like it may be correct, but I'd be curious to hear what FabFed (or anyone else with knowledge on the matter) thinks.
     
  25. duz10s

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    Thats because its a Wilson frame
     
  26. Doubles

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    Except it's not a Wilson, it's the mold as the HEAD Radical.
     
  27. vsbabolat

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    It's no Wilson frame.
     
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    Hey vsbabolat
    What kind of HEAD Radical MP Mold?
    I mean, racquet is closest to it?
     
  29. dr325i

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    It IS the MG Radical MP mold
     
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    I picked up a Radical MP microgel at Academy the other day for $69. I don't like lighter racquets, but at the same time could not pass up this deal. I took it home, put lead around the entire hoop, filled the handle with around 30(+/-5) grams of silicone, and put on a Wilson over-grip (6 grams). Final weight of the racquet without a dampener is 350 grams and around 5 points headlight. A leather grip and an extra over grip could easily bring this to 364 grams and Novak's headlight specs. The amount silicone in Novak's handle will never be known, but you could easily get Novak's exact specs by tinkering with the amount of silicone in the handle.

    Point being, I don't believe in these "custom layup" conspiracies. At what point in Novak's career did he go to head and say "take me to the secret room where I can make my own racquet". If he has his own "custom layup", he would not need as much lead as he uses(customizing would be minimal). These guys usually stick to the racquet which made them successful, and there is no need for them to produce a different racquet than what they have playing with their whole life.

    Fact: He uses Radical MP mold. Fact: You can easily get his specs by duplicated lead placement and silicone in the handle.

    Conspiracy: He uses a Custom layup. Please do not say this garbage without a credible source.
     
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    So with all that lead tape your balance board is saying it is 5 pts headlight?? Have you taken off the grip to see what is happening under there? He must have more tape there to offset what he puts around the hoop.
     
  32. dr325i

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    Do you know what word "layup" means?
    How do you get your Radical flex down to the low 50's??? You can put whatever you want in it and you will not get there...

    THAT is the custom layup...

    PS: However, if it makes you feel and play good, then, yes, you have the exact, Novak's stick. Go, win it all now ;)
     
  33. Power Player

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    Uhm, it's pretty commonly admitted in the industry that pros use custom layups. Search for Prince rep custom layups in google and you will see them admitting that.

    Also, we are credible sources since many of us have owned TGKs, PT57s..etc. I had a TGK prestige that flexed in the hoop instead of the bridge. It was made with the same materials as the retail, but the flex point was in a different location.

    If you want to believe the layups are all the same and you have Nole's exact stick..go for it. Many friends of mine also believe the stripper they met last night also really is into them as well.
     
  34. RadicalMPfan

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    Yes I know what a custom layup is. I am not leading up my racquet to make it exactly like Novaks so I can go brag to people. All I am saying is that I came across this thread after customizing my racquet and it just so happens to resemble Novak's balance and weight. If he were to use a custom lay up it would probably be resemble the LM radical he used to use. Please don't jump to conclusions on my intentions. A flex of 57 isn't to far off from the low 50's. How do you know what his flex is in the first place?

    On a different note, the racquet is a beast. It is very hard to hit shots out and every hit is similar to hitting the sweet spot on a blx 90. Is the racquet polarized or depolarized?
     
  35. Power Player

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    So the custom layup is not garbage then? That is what you said in your first post.
     
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    You are ignorant. Let me be clear, I don't believe in speculation. It is not proven that he uses a custom layup. Show me any empirical evidence that shows Novak's specs other than weight, balance, and swing weight. I have not seen heard of anyone measuring the flex of his racquet. I do believe some pros use a layup derived from a frame no longer in production which may be the case for this racquet. It is funny to see people on this board who this pros have magic racquets that no one can replicate through a little homework. Prove to me that he uses a custom layup, I dont care that it comes out of your mouth, show me evidence.
     
  37. Power Player

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    Oh I'm ignorant now?

    So now you are saying you don't believe in the custom layup again.

    It seems as if you contradict yourself each post. Maybe you have a bipolar thing going on.

    The evidence is out there. You can find it. I'm not going to do the legwork for a guy who is brand new to the site and already firing off personal insults because he can't handle being called out.
     
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    Some bozos were telling the same rubbish to Einstein when he said that space is bent around big planets/stars. Have you registered here just to troll?
     
  39. retlod

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    You modified it. You're holding it. You tell us.
     
  40. RadicalMPfan

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    You are ignorant because I never said I have Novak's exact stick. I am saying that I have is mold and I'm close to the major specs by coincidence. You can match the mold, balance, and weight, and swing weight of his current stick. No one knows the stiffness and Flex of his frame, so until this information is found it is safe to say it is similar to that of the LM Radical MP which is also similar to the Radical MP. The stiffness is the only thing I cannot replicate because no one knows what it is. Ok ill admit I also cant replicate the material in his lay up that came from the moon...but who cares?
     
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    Ok so you have the Lm Radical MP, which is the mold Nole uses. You weighted it up to similar specs and you believe that there is no such thing as custom layups.

    You also think that layup and composition is the same thing judging from your reference to it coming from "the moon", even though we just clearly explained to you what a layup is.

    But yet you say you do not have Nole's stick and I am ignorant?

    This is good stuff. Thanks.
     
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    Thank you VSBabolat, finally an intelligent post. But Why would Novak make "Drastic" changes on something that he has been using most of his career. He he loved change so much, he would have greatly different molds throughout his career. Funny how power player has so much time to respond to my posts 5 minutes after posting, but cannot find Novak's flex rating that he "claims" is out their. Thanks for the laugh, and thank you VSBabolat for a respectable answer to my question.
     
  45. Power Player

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    I love how you take this so personal and insult my intelligence even though everything I said was correct and you clearly displayed your lack of knowledge on the subject.

    I have read Greg Raven's specs many times. I already know this stuff, not my fault you don't. So now as you can see, you are wrong.

    So how I am I ignorant again? Just curious.

    Apology accepted in advance. Thanks.
     
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    So what would be the closest way a recreational player could get a stick to play like Novak's? (And for the record Power Dummy, I don't want my stick to be exactly like his, im simply curious like everyone else). I would take a racquet with flex in the 50's and use silicone, lead, leather, and two over grips. Using a balance board and a scale you could get pretty close. Graphite is graphite, and additives such as basalt and microgel technologies don't have a drastic change on performance. I get the fact that I will never have this special layup he uses.
     
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    When you stop being abrasive, I am sure people will be more willing to help. Grow up kid.

    But since I don't need to be as petty and get heated like you have, I think you are close. There is nothing else you can do to change the flex or layup of your racquet. You could match it with lead and really be so close that the rest would not be a huge deal. The retail prestige I had and the TGK pro mold played very very similar, just had different flexpoints.

    so basically, I guess the answer is nothing more, but you are so close it would not matter THAT much anyway.
     
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    No, thank you. It's comical to watch people hurl childish insults from behind their keyboard when they don't even know simple grammar. When will people realize that when they cannot speak well their credibility is automatically questionable? There are not many users on my "Ignore List," but you just made the grade. Congratulations.
     
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    I do not believe there is a Million dollars as I have never seen it, pure speculation.

    Just what you claim although you do acknowledge it is a common thing...

    In the end -- who gives a rat's *** what you believe...
     
  50. dr325i

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    1) What the hell did you try to say here???
    2) What did VS tell you different than Power Player??
     

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