Not eating after 7?

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  1. Verilious

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    Is there any benefit to this? A former coach of mine who was fairly in shape said he didn't eat after 7. Could help with preventing any weight gain?
     
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    Try it. Sounds good, you sit down after 7 and watch tv... you feel like eating... if you stay up late, you feel like eating... not a bad idea
     
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  3. Murray_Maniac

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    7 sounds pretty early. All I know is that you shouldn't eat when its your bed time because when your tired, your digestion slows. So, just dont eat late. If you still up and going at 7, I think that you can eat without much weight gain.
     
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    Most likely there's a benefit in that you'll consume less. A lot of people consume unneeded calories just prior to going to bed.

    I have no scientific evidence, but many of the fatest people I know and others who struggle with diets admit that they don't eat breakfast, but eat a big dinner. I think it makes more sense to eat a big breakfast and less for dinner than the other way around. No food after 7 is just a variant of this idea.

    If you lived in a European culture where they eat dinner around 9-11pm, you'd really lose weight.:)
     
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    Don't eat after 6 pm. You will lose more weight.

    Don't eat after 5 pm. You will lose even more weight.

    Don't eat after 4 pm. Can you imagine the weight you will lose?

    Don't eat after 3 pm. It's all coming off now.
     
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  6. kobe3pointer

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    Don't eat after 2 pm. You cant move, too weak.

    Don't eat after 1 pm. No need to worry about eating, your dead from starvation.
     
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  7. LanEvo

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    i think thats dumb imo not eating after 7, i like all the meals i have at midnight, at like jack in the box or in and out burger
     
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    I don't think that it is a dumb rule. Of course, whether it makes sense for any individual might depend on his sleep pattern, etc. A lot of people eat a bunch of food before they go to sleep and then they complain that they are getting fat.

    If cutting down on the late-night snacking can help someone maintain a diet, then the rule makes sense. It might work since many of us are creatures of habit. I wonder how many people will consume the same calories, just eat them earlier in the day?

    If you don't have any problem with weight then I wouldn't worry about the rule.
     
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    If you plan to make your body starve and go into a catabolic state then go for it!
     
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    This is one of the biggest diet myths out there.
    Your body doesn't tell the difference if you eat at 7 pm,8 pm or 12 am!The metabolism drop is minimal-so don't worry for such things!
    The thing is that most ppl tend to binge at night,that's why this myth is so popular.If you keep your caloric intake the same,it won't make a difference at all.
    Better advice would be to eat a huge breakfast,the more you eat in the morning,the less you're hungry during the rest of the day.
     
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    well its no eating after 8
     
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    THANK YOU!

    read that post people...
     
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  13. TW CSR

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    I've heard a few people at work talk about this myth but it is completely bogus. I have had a ton of experience dieting. I went from 210 lbs down to 140 and now back up to 175. Dieting is all about daily caloric intake. For best results you should split your calories into as many meals as possible, for me that means eating at least 2 or 3 meals after 7pm. I eat peanut butter or greek style yogurt right before I get into bed which helps me wake up without feeling hungry. Also making sure to keep hydrated is very important. A diet ratio of 40/40/20 (protein/carbs/fat) seems to work the best for me.
     
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  14. Rickson

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    Absolutely not true! It doesn't matter if you eat 5 minutes before you go to sleep. What matters is how many calories you consume. Almost every single bodybuilder alive takes in some form of nourishment right before they go to sleep and they're the leanest athletes around.
     
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    shoot you can find plenty of college athletes who are ridiculously lean and are trashed and hitting up late night drive thru's on weekends
     
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    There you go, proof positive.
     
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  17. ultima972

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    Not eating after 7 would be far worse for your body because all the weight you lose would be muscle.
     
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  18. cncretecwbo

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    that depends on a lot of things, generally? yes. always? no
     
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    Nothing's written in stone, but if you're a late sleeper, you can bet some muscle loss will occur with a 7pm limit. If you slept at 7:30, that's another story.
     
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  20. Forehand_Punisher

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    So I guess eating 6 burritos from Taco Bell at 2 am is out.
     
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    maybe, maybe not
     
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  22. Forehand_Punisher

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    Sure. And there are college kids who can eat 2 Big Macs, fries, and a milkshake and stay lean, but I wouldn't say that's ok for everyone.
     
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    it does not matter what you eat or how much you eat as long as you burn more calories than you take in you WILL lose weight. You can eat 1 huge meal at 9pm every day and as long as you burn more calories than you take in you will lose weight. Don't worry about when you eat.

    If you want to lose weight eat a breakfast that has a lot of carbs. Eat a lunch that has a good amount of carbs. Eat a light dinner with not as many carbs and more vegetables. The last thing you want to do is starve your body. You should not be losing more than 2 pounds per week. If you are then you are losing weight too quickly. That is unless you weigh something like 300 and you are very overweight because it is proportional of course.

    My best advice is to stay away from beer and soda entirely. Eat more fish, vegetables, veggie burgers (Morning star brand actually tastes amazingly really good) Find a 100+ step staircaise and run up it 5 times every other day increasing 1 set each week. Play tennis and do stairs and you will feel like a machine in no time.

    Also, frozen vegetables are great. Take a whole bag of vegetables whatever kind you want and just dump them into a large bowl and microwave them for a few minutes and dinner is served. As long as you have a good balanced diet with high carb breakfast and lunch and AT LEAST 8 hours of sleep each night you will feel amazing
     
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  24. Rickson

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    Let's see; sleep at 1 AM and stop eating before 7. I wouldn't count on keeping a lot of muscle with that kind of diet.
     
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    What if you just had a hardcore workout at 1 AM? I think 6 burritos would be no problem.
     
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  26. cncretecwbo

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    i wouldnt either, but some do
     
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  27. superman1

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    I just ate after 7. Oh noes!
     
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  28. TopShelf

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    It does matter when or what you eat at certain times if you want to see results.

    A calorie is a calorie no matter when you eat BUT its not "all the same" as to when a human body burns those calories. Thats the main issue.
    Your body slows down during night time, so if you ate that "bowl of ice cream" at 9PM, your not burning it off as fast as if you ate it at 3PM

    I do not eat past 6:30PM and I have seen very good results. I will eat a dinner that fills me up and then I will have a tea or water through the evening. If I become active after 6:30 I will have a protein shake or or some sort of food during or after, due to my body will be in "burning mode".
     
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    It's better to eat late at night than not to eat at all.
     
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    not really no. Odds are that "late night food" was not factored into your daily diet for one. Or if it was, you would be better to eat it earlier then "later in the day".

    not to mention the disadvantages of trying to get to sleep if you just scarfed down a high sugar or high carb meal, thats not exactly going to help "sleep" which is the plan at late night, not being "full"
     
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    Unfortunately, you've been told some myths and you're having trouble getting them out of your head. Eating late at night never did and never will make anyone fat. Consuming more calories than one uses makes one gain bodyfat. You can consume more calories than you use at 5 pm and go over your limit or you can consume a meal at midnight and still be in a caloric deficit. I'd rather stay in the deficit so as you can clearly see, eating late at night has nothing to do with weight gain.
     
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    Asians don't eat before 7.
     
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  33. cncretecwbo

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    what is wrong with carbohydrates at night? carbs are pretty darn muscle sparing if you ask me

    why would it be better to eat earlier? its not like your body decides to put things on hold when you dont eat, processes still occur inside you.

    theres a difference between throwing down ice cream cake and drinking a glass of milk at night
     
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    Most of the fittest, strongest people in the world can't go without their late night meal. I doubt there's a bodybuilder out there who wouldn't feel uneasy going to sleep without having something in his belly.

    8 hours of starvation is enough. Why prolong it to 12 hours, or 15 hours?
     
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    I have yet to meet a bodybuilder who doesn't throw down a protein shake or at least a chicken breast for a late night snack. I know some dude who used to eat steak and rice late at night and he was shredded.
     
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    Steak and rice. Just a great combo!
     
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  37. TopShelf

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    Nah I'm not wrong you just trying to use two examples in one argument

    We all know consuming more calories then one uses is the problem but that wasn't really what was up for debate.

    Sure it does. If someone eats 100% of their food at 11:30 at night for one week, and then is put on a scale, it will read a certain weight. Then, if they eat 20% of their food in each sitting, for a total of five meals they will have a weight difference. Its proven. (and for both weeks the calorie intake was the same)

    And even if you take the "weight issue" out of the subject, your still dealing with your sugar levels when going to bed on a full stomach compared to not being on an empty stomach. Again, it may not be a "noticeable difference" buts its what we call a "difference" that is proven and known.
     
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    Eating 5 meals with the 5th meal eaten late at night is immensely better than eating your total calories in the morning too. That was a ridiculous point you made there, buddy.
     
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    Actually alot. If you looked at the top bodybuilders they would almost all refuse carbs after 6 or 7pm at night.

    It puts things on hold when you sleep. Your body burns more calories when your awake then when your asleep.
     
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    All competitive bodybuilders cut their carbs precontest, but is it to lose bodyfat? Absolutely not. They cut carbs to lose water weight. Water weight.
     
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    Ya they can. It takes 2 weeks to lose muscle mass if you all of a sudden stop working out, or start eating less, not all of a sudden if you have 8 or 12 hours without food

    And yes they can go without their late night meal. Thats why they are fit and strong =)

    Again, don't assume I am saying they are starving themselves come 7pm. All they are doing is eating their typical calorie intake BEFORE a suggested time. They are not skipping a meal.
     
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    Not eating after 7 is skipping 2 meals for me and I'd rather not skip them.
     
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    And I will agree with that point, but we all know the OP was not a bodybuilder so if you want to try and base an average calorie intake on "pro bodybuilders" go ahead.

    And I agree with you they eat protien late at night, because its for their muscles, which is their proffesion. They do still gain X amount due to eating later then scheduled BUT they disregard that due to they need the muscle growth.

    That "riduculous post" I made just confirms thats your wrong. If you agree there is a "variable change" from eating all your food at 7 AM then at 12PM before bed, how can you not see it??? Of course it was "obscene" as its an example to go of, assumed you would atlest get that much
     
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    And there is our answer ladies and gentlemen. I never said to CUTOUT calories. All I said from the start was if you eat all your daily food before 7pm or 6pm or whatever a few hours before bed time is, you will see a drop in weightloss, COMPARED to eating that SAME amount of food but having some of it at say 9pm and 11pm.

    So 2000 calories for 2000 calories just at different times in the day.

    All the bodybuilding forums would agree to that and I am sure your typical family doctor would as well
     
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  45. cncretecwbo

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    ive heard people who practice diets that include long bouts (over 12 hrs) of no eating. they love it and see results, i dont.

    not sure if you know who alan aragon is, but id say plenty of bodybuilder types would agree hes a top quality mind in nutrition.

    but yes most bodybuilders are deathly afraid of carbohydrates before bed.

    but most body builder arent necessarily strong for their size. they are strong as hell, dont get me wrong, but training for size =/= training for strength at all times
     
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    Forget it, TS. You're stuck on your beliefs and I'm stuck on what I was taught through my certifications. ACE and Apex in case you're wondering.
     
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    I'm very open minded and wasn't looking to butt heads by any means. My original post was very "specific" and from what I have read and know its hard to just change my opinion without a major reason.
    And I would probably agree with you on almost all of your thoughts or "teachings" through those, but the OP I created to me has not been "proven wrong" in what I have been told/read" so its hard to just switch sides on that.
     
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    Let's see if we can do this without butting heads in that case. If a man consumes 2000 calories spread out over 4 meals at 500 calories per meal, and this man expends 2500 calories daily, will he lose the same amount of calories if he consumes his last meal at 7 or at midnight? The answer is clearly yes. Do you agree or disagree?
     
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    I agree that he will lose the same amount of calories at 7pm or midnight as you say

    But once we bring in "bed time" is where I have the issue. If we gave him a bed time of 1pm, I have been told, learned that your insulin resistance to do with sugar etc will have a negative effect for that meal at midnight, then at 7.

    So if we give this man no bed time, then your post is correct by all means (in my eyes or view)
     
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  50. TopShelf

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    triglyceride levels is what I was looking for, in my last post (type of fat that is increased during sleep)
     
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