not enjoying league tennis

Discussion in 'Adult League & Tournament Talk' started by raiden031, Jan 27, 2007.

  1. maverick1

    maverick1 Semi-Pro

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    I know many people consider tournaments more important, but I don't understand it.

    I play USTA leagues as well as tournaments, and I consider the league far more competitive and far more serious than tournaments, for several reasons:

    - In the league, people other than you care about the result, so there is more pressure. Especially when your match goes to 3 sets, your teammates are done with their matches, the teams are tied 2-2, and everyone is watching your match. This happened to me in the very first USTA match I ever played(it was windy, sun was in the eyes, and it was a dogfight of a doubles match).

    - A league is a season long thing. The results continue to matter beyond the weekend, as you are trying to make the playoffs.

    - League results actually affect your computer rating. As far as I can tell, the only link between tournaments and your official rating is that the latter disqualifies you from playing tournaments at a lower rating. I know people who play only tournaments and don't even have a rating. They sign up for 3.5 , 4.0 or 4.5 tournaments, whatever is available.

    - Standard of play is higher in the leagues. The guy who wins the most 4.0 tournaments in my area is an average player in the league. The best 4.0 players don't play tournaments. At 3.5 & 4.0 levels, many of the best players tend to be older guys (45+) who have trouble playing 5 matches in one weekend.
     
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  2. DJ Edwards

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    This would have been funny to see, if for no other reason than it would have drawn out even more anger from the woman and she wouldda no doubt put on a good show. I wouldda told her that until she pointed to the rule in a rules' book that I was violating, she could go ahead and SHUT THE FRONT DOOR!!!

    And yeah, every single passing shot should have been hit as hard as possible right at her. As a matter of fact, I wouldda hit a couple serves at her when she was at net and I was supposed to be serving to her partner. People like these need vigilantes like me to put them in their place. The rest of you who are thinking I'm crazy, keep in mind that you reap the benefit when the bully meets a much bigger bully and takes a much deserved azzwuppin'. Doubtful she would have been all that eager to bully anyone else after I got through with her.
     
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  3. Sakkijarvi

    Sakkijarvi Semi-Pro

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    Goofy, SNL and Lucy, all in one post

    I really think the best bet for the starter of this topic is to make like...

    ...Rosanne Roseannadanna...

    ...and stop trying to, er, 'splain'. It's gettin' goofy in here.

    Sakki
     
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  4. N23

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    My college coach always said just because they're at the net doesn't mean they can volley. Do not assume they can so let them prove they can hit volleys by hitting at them. If they return your shot.. great. Hit at them again! And again! If they do it every time then they beat you and you will remember that about them and introduct passing or lob shots. Everything is fair on the court.
     
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  5. Ronaldo

    Ronaldo G.O.A.T.

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    My distant memory of mixed includes nearly poaching on every point, so a return of serve down the line is mandatory. Pro actually worked on tactics with our team. Just concentrate on your technique, forget the drama.
     
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  6. CrocodileRock

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    the bottom line

    Raiden, the bottom line is that tennis is supposed to be fun. That's why I and many others play. If mixed league isn't meeting your expectations, there are other ways to enjoy tennis. Try singles league, doubles league, team league, tournaments, or just private matches between friends. If none of those are fun, there's always hitting against a backboard by yourself. Life is too short to spend it around people who make it miserable.
     
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  7. naffi

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    I play against people like this all the time, and they're just usually trying to get in your head. It's part of their game plan. That'll be in singles, dubs, whatever. And some people are just miserable. That'll be in singles, dubs, and life in general. Those kinds of outbursts used to shock me, but now, I just try to focus harder on my game. And if I get a sitter while they're cowering at net, so much the better.


    Okay, Andy, James, Fernando: If you guys can hang on for more than five years, you will have a shot at a Grand Slam.
    Of course, some people wouldn't wait that long for their chance to shine. See HARDING, Tonya.
    http://tenniswithattitude.blogspot.com
     
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  8. Ronaldo

    Ronaldo G.O.A.T.

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    Its a shame, Tonya was a lead pipe cinch to win Nationals in Detroit but after the whack heard 'round the world, forgetaboutit. There's always celebrity boxing
     
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  9. csb

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    I used to play 6.0 mixed doubles before i got bumped up to 3.5 and know what you are going through. I am extremely competitive but soon realized that if i was going play that i needed to try and just have fun and relax.
    I decided that playing the mixed was better than not playing at all i guess.
    Sure it was frustrating when i was put with a weak partner the first season but i got over it. The second season i played i had a much better partner and we didn't lose so it was a little better-but to me it still doesn't come close to singles or a good mens double match.
    At this point i don't even have much interest in continuing in mixed(i made no effort to find a 3.5 team after i got bumped).
    So hang in there and keep practicing your singles. If you can find a 7.0 mixed team it will probably be a little better for you but try an just go out there and have fun.
     
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  10. marcl65

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    Seriously, I don't know that it's fair to blame one bad experience on mixed league play. I've run into these kind of people (male and female) in regular non-mixed play, both in practice and in competition.

    You ran into a bad apple. It happens. Don't let that one "stickler" ruin the whole experience.
     
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  11. raiden031

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    The main problem I have is not the people. That was just one incident that was annoying, but its really the fact that I can't play well in mixed. I think it has to do with the overall speed of the game. People are often middle-aged and take forever in between points. People hit the ball with little pace and the game is less intense, so I tend to lose focus. Also I have a hard time adjusting to being the stronger player on my side. I play my best doubles when my partner is as good or better than me. Not that my partner is bad, but she is still below me.

    Oh yeah, and my partner just quit the team. I'm not sure why though, maybe because my team isn't doing very well.
     
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  12. Cindysphinx

    Cindysphinx G.O.A.T.

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    Raiden, IMHO these are all reasons to continue to play mixed.

    Last season, I played 5.5 ladies combo. Being 3.0, I was always the stronger player on the doubles team. Yes, there are burdens that come with that.

    But I developed parts of my game I never would have developed absent that experience. For instance, I tended to play the deuce court. Normally, if a short lob came I would let the ad court player take it and smash it. But many 2.5s can't overhead a ball reliably yet. So I started hitting those balls, even though I had to do it from the deuce court as a backhand overhead.

    So now I can hit a backhand overhead.

    Yes, these mixed players might show you a different ball than you're used to. But if you learn how to hit those balls, you will never lose to a pusher in singles, I'm thinking.
     
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  13. csb

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    Raiden
    First of all just be glad you are finding tennis at such a young age. I wish i had.
    Second i want to share a brief story with you. I am in my late thirties
    but a couple years ago i was kind of in the same situation you are. Trying to really learn the game after playing sporadically as a kid(never played h.s or college). To complicate matters i was recently married with a baby on the way.
    I took a couple group lessons but didn't get much out of it. The i joined a tennis ladder and met a guy who asked me to play on his mixed team. Then one of the guys on the mixed team asked me to play on his mens(3.0) team.
    I had a pretty good year in usta and in a couple local tourmanents and my rating got bumped. Then one of the 3.0 captains i played against referred me to a 3.5 team for the upcoming year. Then one of the guys from my old 3.0 team got me in on his blocktime for something to do in the winter.
    So hang in there and meet and play as many people as you can.(personally i like the ladders the best because you can play a variety of opponents which only makes you better).
     
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