Not happy w/ Pistol Pete

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  1. anantak2k

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    I am not too sure what to make of this seller. I have traded/bought/sold a ton of times on TW before with absolutely no problem. All were amazing transactions, great communication, etc. etc.

    This transaction however has me puzzled. Communication was horrible once I made the payment. Racket finally came through but took way longer than it should have (claimed to have shipped it on a certain day but the postmark date said otherwise which was over a week after the "claimed" date of shipment).

    Was also sent 2 rackets accidentally instead of one after which all of a sudden communication became great and timely again because they needed one of the rackets back. So, being the nice person that I am, I gladly shipped the racket back but obviously to someone else who I assume they sold the 2nd racket to. I was also supposed to be sent a set of string and over grips which I have not received. No communication since then.

    I am really not sure what to make of this transaction and I am very unhappy and unsatisfied with this transaction. The communication just wasn't there at all except before I made the payment and when they needed me to send one of the rackets back.
     
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  2. mad dog1

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    i imagine if you held the one racquet hostage until you received the overgrips and string, you would have gotten them lightning fast. unfortunately once you obliged and sent the extra racquet back, you lost the only leverage you had. luckily you got the racquet and are only out some overgrips and a set of string. it sucks and hopefully the other party, Pistol Pete, will make it right. good luck.
     
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    if memory serves me right pistol pete has bad references on here. did you check it out before dealing with him?? but sorry to hear that. hope he makes amends. keep us posted
     
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    Wouldn't hold my breath for the grips and the string.

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=257303

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=230456

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=226614

    Just curious, did he tell you he shipped you two frames or did you tell him?
    Wondering if this was his way to ship the second racket to the other party on your dime.
    How could someone be so stupid as to ship two frames instead of one? Hard to imagine.

    You should have said second racket, what second racket? :)

    Unless you enjoy being jerked around, don't do biz with Pistol Pete. It isn't worth the hassle.

    Apparently, he is 27 years old; old enough to know better.
     
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    Fearsome Forehand, you do make an excellent point. He might have been trying to get the 2nd racket shipped for free who knows. But I waited almost a week for him to first send me the shipping fees over paypal. He kept emailing me asking if I shipped a racket without actually sending me the shipping fees. I was obviously not going to be shipping the racket until I got that money. I guess it took him a while to realize this and finally sent the payment.

    maddog1, you are absolutely right. I am sure I would be hearing from him constantly if I just held on to the 2nd racket. But Honestly, I don't care enough for a set of string and some grips.

    Zapvor, I did look at previous references. Unfortunately, I only looked at like the latest 2 or 3 which were positive. Once it was over 2 weeks and I still did not have my racket, I went back to look at the references again. That's when I saw the older threads where this person had a lot of issues with so many people.

    Overall, I got my racket. So its not a big deal. I am just very unhappy with how long it took (almost a month). ****-poor communication, after the payment. By **** poor I mean, pretty much non-existent. I also don't like it when people lie about things. I probably would not even have bothered writing a negative feedback if the person had not lied about shipping the racket when I can clearly see the postmark date on the package. I kept emailing the guy asking for tracking number which I never really got until more than a week later. And the postmark on the package clearly showed that they did not ship the frame when they "claimed" they did (which would not have been as bad had it been just a couple of days later but that was not the case).


    Anyway, this is the first poor transaction I have had on TW. Its not so bad since I did at least get my racket. I do not recommend this user "Pistol Pete" to anyone on the board. It's amazing that this guy is still allowed to sell here considering his history. The guy has a ton of listings on the for sale/trade thread which is usually well moderated for the most part.
     
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  6. zapvor

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    pistol pete needs to be banned
     
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    Hey guys, sorry if I move away form pistol pete but do you have any idea who this Rjb49 is? I bought from him a racquet for $36 not a lot of money but I haven't received yet. He always promised that I was going to sent it but never done it. I bought the 30th of December. I know $36 is not a lot of money but it bothers me he fooled me like that.
     
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  9. Fearsome Forehand

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    It has only been about 11 days. If the racket doesn't arrive by this weekend, file a item not received claim with Paypal (assuming you paid by PP). If the racket arrives before the claim closes, cancel the claim. The PP claim might get his attention.

    I assume you have sent him one, or more, WTF? emails already and have not heard back.

    If you don't get the racket, post a separate thread listing his email address / username and briefly describe your experience. Even if you get the racket, post a neutral ref citing the poor communication so the the next guy knows what he is in for if he deals with this fellow.
     
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  10. decades

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    nobody accidentally sends two racquets.he had sized you up as an "honest injun" and got you to eat his shipping cost on 2nd racquet.
     
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  11. Tmano

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    Fearsome Forehand, yes i paied by paypal and he already got the money. I'll try to file a claim later on if I don't get it. I sent him many emails and however the comunication was poor but I never though he would fool me. He kept saying he was busy. I'll see what happen in the next few days.
    thanks
     
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    i wouldn't have shipped the 2nd racquet unless he shipped the goodies first.
     
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    Or, perhaps the second buyer was in closer proximity to the first buyer (OP) than Pistol Pete is (Boston or NY area?) So, either Pistol thought he could con buyer 1 to ship on his dime (didn't work as the OP demanded shipping fee up front) or Pistol thought it would be cheaper to ship the second racket to buyer 2 from buyer 1's address. Just a theory. :) Another explanation is that Pistol is on drugs because I can't see how anyone could accidentally ship two rackets by mistake.
     
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    Even then, those would have to be some pretty powerful drugs. ;-)
     
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    Every single transaction with this guy has been negative. He tried to con me, but I asked for a cell number and the emails stopped. He needs to be banned.
     
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    Take the second racquet and "go off the grid"...


    D:

    Kidding aside, nothing happens without a cause. He probably just wanted to save shipping costs.
     
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    You did the right thing! In the end, you need to live with yourself. Let him be the dishonest one.
     
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  19. Yourtenniscoach

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    This Pistol Pete is bad news!
     
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  20. decades

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    did you actually pay out of your own pocket to ship to the guy who was supposed to get the other racquet? if so the lesson is don't be so gosh darn nice!
     
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  21. anantak2k

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    I honestly don't know how all of his sale ads are still going through the moderators even with all the negative feedbacks.
     
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    actually thats smart of TW. let him use the same name so we can identify him easier
     
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  23. anantak2k

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    I guess that makes sense in some crazy way.
     
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    He is selling racquets left and right. Just look in "For sale" section.
     
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    So he's a high volume trader and probably made a mistake.

    Just like real traders, he'll advertise stock which he's in process of acquiring.

    IMHO all traders should be banned, infact entire section should be scrapped.
     
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  26. Wicked4hand

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    He just post a babollat pure storm few days ago....
     
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    Once or twice is a mistake but, 4-5 times is a system.
     
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  28. Pistol Pete

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    Wow. Umm what happened was I mailed out several packages same day and mislabeled the boxes. He got the racket in the condition I said it was. And I just mailed the string and grip. I did not hear from him so I thought he received the string and grip and I added an extra set of string to make up for the simple mistake. You guys are not fair and don't knew the whole story.
     
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  29. Pistol Pete

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    Also I have always fixed every transaction if it didn't go smoothly. I'm not here to con anyone or take anyone for a ride.
    I'm sorry you guys hear one end of it and then just go straight on blast.
    I have good references and had one shaky one which I made good on.
     
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  30. Pistol Pete

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    By the way I have all the emails and the buyer barely contacted letting me know he got the racket or not. No news means good news. He finally emails me saying I guess I should have kept the 2nd racket prompting me to ask what happened. I sold a few other rackets which worked out great and they will be leaving good feedback.
     
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  31. Pistol Pete

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    And I had 5 pure storm tours but bc I'm in law school and don't play I was selling them all. I sold 2 sticks to Joe Nguyen and 1 to Ananta Khatri. I boxed them and thought I labeled them correctly.
    I messed up simple mistake. Ananta Khatri did a great job and mailed te racket but this was during Xmas and I was out of town. I sent him the shipping money and mailed his string and grip. This week he emailed me saying I should have kept the racket right away I assumed he never got the string and grip. So I sent it yesterday with some extras to correct my simple mistake.

    No need for all the hate. And every post that I have had a bad reference each one was corrected and the buyer has left a positive remarks.
     
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    Also fearsome forehand why don't you show this

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=239159&highlight=pistol+pete

    really don't appreciate it
     
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  34. Pistol Pete

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    Fearsome why don't you show this as well?


    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=231252


    Im sorry but this group is just nuts. If you guys want to go and blast me thats fine but have the truth out there. People make shipping mistakes or they have busy lives and get caught up. I always come through, I will admit it stinks sometimes but I always make sure I do right for the buyer or seller.

    So please before you blast me make sure you read those negative posts made by fearsome forehand and how every person afterwards said they got what I promised in great condition plus some goodies.
     
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  35. Kot_Bigemot

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    Let's just do simple math here. I did a check and here is what i have:
    Positive - 10
    Negative - 7.
    It is almost 50/50. For God's sake! Do you think people will want to deal with THAT????
    If you take flea bay, with 10 positive and 7 negatives your rating would be around 60%. Try to sell anything with this rating.
    And by the way, it does not matter(not THAT much) if you make good on the deals that you screw up. Who cares?!!! People are wasting time and energy dealing with your BS. You are simply unreliable. And these days that is not the quality to have.
    And if you are...as you put it "make shipping mistakes or they have busy lives and get caught up."...then perhaps you should take care of your life and do not waste people's time.
    Plus, once, twice, three times could be a mistake but, 7 times in such a short period of time....YOU ARE IN MY "BLACK LIST".
    This is what i think. And i will never buy from this person.
     
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    I have never bought anything from him but when I researched his feedback, I became worried. I asked him to call me so we could discuss our possible deal and the emails completely stop! I decided to not deal with him any further. Just my situation and opinion. He never ripped me off personally. Just thought I should clarify.
     
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    Where there's smoke... there's fire. If you take your chance with this guy you're asking for headaches and more.
     
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  38. ci2ca

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    Hi guys I bought 2 pure storms from pistol Pete. Communication was good but I believe i was sent the wrong package. I was sent the racket with the string and the grip the OP was supposed to receive. Pistol Pete got me the second racket within a week and it was smooth sailing. I for one didn't check references but wouldn't hesitate to deal with pistol Pete again.
     
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  39. Fearsome Forehand

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    Pistol seems to be under the impression that because he eventually corrected the myriad problems people have had with him that all is well and no one should have any concerns about dealing with him. While he isn't a scammer, he does seem to have an inordinate number of complaints and smart people should not ignore that fact. (See Kot's post above for details.)

    I received the following email from the Pistol. Apparently, I and his other critics are the problem, not him, and we have judged him unfairly. :roll:

    Hey next time you blast me please do some research. Every transaction you posted on the TW forum was corrected and if you go look at my response I have added links showing that every single one you posted corrected there statement saying I delivered as promised. I understand your concern for the TW community and board and respect that, however, please make sure you dig a little deeper than just the bare surface.

    This new post which you responded to the guy never emailed me telling me he either got the racket and didn't receive the grips. Then when I told him I will mail out the grips he waits like 10 days to tell me that he should have kept the racket. All I am saying is that communication goes 2 ways and its so easy for someone just to get on the forum and blast.

    So please appreciate and understand where I am coming from.


    Thanks

    Well, counselor, what you don't seem to get is that these little tennis racket transactions are supposed to be very simple. Person X sends Person Y money for an item. Person Y ships the item (as described) in a timely manner (with 2 to 3 days max.) Person Y receives said item within a week. Communication (including tracking info) is great throughout the process and at the end, everyone is happy, no problems, no worries, no more emails, no chasing after the other party for a resolution, no excuses or apologies required, etc. In a word, easy.

    Such transactions should not involve a buyer chasing after a seller trying to get what he paid for, or a buyer having to ship a racket out to a third party because the seller is so scattered that he can't box up a freaking racket correctly, etc. No one wants, or needs, this type of complication; it so unnecessary.

    I suggest instead of blaming me or the others in this thread who have criticized your past business practices, maybe you should take a little more care in your future dealings and get them right in the first place. The fact that so many people were unhappy enough that they felt compelled to post a negative (or a WTF?) post in the reference section regarding their dealings with you speaks for itself. The fact that you may have corrected matters eventually is all but moot. The problems themselves are the issue. Who needs the added hassle?

    If you spent as much time getting your deals done correctly as you did defending your miscues, you (and your buyers) would not have had the problems in the first place.

    Are you a scammer; no. Are you a pain to deal with, apparently yes. If people want to deal with you despite your track record of having these little problems with what should be very simple transactions that is their prerogative. You are fortunate that the people you have dealt with have been so forgiving and gracious as to still leave a positive feedback despite the unnecessary complications. I have to wonder why they would do so (as the fellow above did; very nice of him given the circumstances) because these deals are pretty badly f'ed up IMHO.

    Introspection is a good thing. Try it sometime. :)
     
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    Especially since Pistol Pete wasnt communicating with him. Cant believe that hes been able to be this bad so many times on here.
     
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    The section shouldnt be scrapped, if you dont like it dont use it but shouldnt take it away from those who do like it just because you dont like it. I have bought and sold several things and have had ZERO problems.
     
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  42. Pistol Pete

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    Look I understand what people are trying to say however I wish people would consider both sides. The OP got his racket in excellent condition and in a timely manner. He did not get a pack of over grips and a set of sensation. I mailed him out some extra to make up for the mistake. If this forum wants to bash me go ahead. But don't latch onto posts from 4 yrs ago when everyone since then has been great except for OP.

    As for fearsome forehand, your allowed to say what you want. All I asked was for you to also post that I didn't scam people which is what your original post implied.
     
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  43. Pistol Pete

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    Ci2ca thanks for the comments and letting people know I do a good job.
     
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    Email from PISTOL PETE
    "I mailed your string and grip and included extra string and some dampners. I would appreciate next time when you dont get something let me know. It's not fair you go and blast me on tw without letting me know you never got it.

    I understand your frustration but I mailed the racket in a timely manner and it was in excellent condition."

    after this email he shortly said send another one pretty much stating, I am sending this just to keep the communication.
    My response was:

    "That's funny. It took me leaving you a bad reference in order to communicate, huh? Interesting. and just so we are clear, you actually did not ship the racket in a timely fashion at all. The post marked date was at least a week later than when you were supposed to actually ship it.
    To be fair you also said that you shipped out the string and grips for me at the same time when I shipped back your second racket to whoever it was I was shipping it to. My racket got there 3 days after I shipped it. Its been 3 week. have I gotten the string and grips that you supposedly send me at the same time? Nope.

    So you tell me if you deserve a better feedback."
     
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    So here is the thing. I understand that sometimes the post office messes up especially during holidays. That's cool. Sometimes people are busy or out on vacation. That's cool too.

    Now here is the thing, I am not stupid. Look at all my references in previous transactions. Not a single bad one. Everyone has been great. And I have been good to them. I have paid for rackets and the rackets have been shipped 2-3 weeks later to me. Which is fine because they let me know in an email that they will not be able to ship until 2-3 weeks later. I understand that.

    Here is my problem with Pistol Pete.
    Actually many problems but lets mention a few.

    1) He emailed me saying that the racket has been shipped. No tracking info, nothing. After I sent a few email he finally responded saying he lost the tracking or something like. Then I did not hear from him until several days later (after sending him more emails). He finally send me a tracking. I got the racket I believe around 3 week to a month after sending the payment. He was supposed to mail this racket before Xmas just so we are all clear because I made the payment around 5 days b4 Xmas (maybe more). He even emailed me saying the racket was shipped. What does the post mark date say? Something like Jan 7ish (I don't remember exactly). I am not blind you know, I can see what the post mark date says. So its not really the post office messing up. DO NO BLATANTLY LIE.

    2) Okay so I got an extra racket and all of a sudden Pistol Pete starts sending me lots of emails. WOW love how the communication just OPENED up conveniently there. What do I do? Since I am a fool even after all this, I mail the racket back THE DAY AFTER he finally sent me the shipping (now this took him 3-5 days). My guess is if I shipped it before actually receiving the payment and he can just move on to his next sale. Why else would he keep emailing me asking me (several times during those 3-5 days) "if I shipped the racket yet" without actually sending me a shipping payment.

    3) At this same time that this was going on, he also told me that he shipped the string and grips. What happened to them? They disappeared in the mail? Tell me Pistol Pete what happened to them? You just went ahead and ASSUMED that I got string and grips that you never actually SHIPPED to me MAGICALLY? How does that even work?

    4) And now you email me being a smart-ass with emails that have no purpose that say nothing more than "bla bla sending this email just to keep the communication?" Really? And this only after I leave you a negative feedback?

    5) Let me ask you something... think about it for a second. Why is it that you have so many people complaining about you? Even if you eventually fix your transactions, does that make all this hassle okay, just to get something that I already should have received? Now you claim that you have shipped the string and grips once again. But who knows. That's what you said last time too and then expected to magically get items that you never shipped?

    Please DO NOT WASTE other people's time. Try and be more honest with people and they might actually understand and get along with you better. And please stop using "I'm going to law school as a constant excuse for your mistakes." It's getting old.
     
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    I wonder why the emails stopped all of a sudden.

    Another question to Pistol Pete, why is it that you use about 5 (around 5 from what I know, there may be more) different email addresses to sell rackets? Why would you do that unless you were up to something fishy?
     
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    You don't understand. It is your fault, not his. He "took care of it" so there is no problem and he deserves glowing feedback. So what if he lied to you about having already shipped, sent you the wrong racket and you didn't get the racket for 3 to 4 weeks? It is all good, dude because he took care of it. Besides, he is in law school so you can't expect him to drop everything just to address your silly little concerns. You just don't get it. :)

    Given your wonderful experience with the Pistol, I question the sanity/intelligence of anyone who willingly does business with him (unless they pay him after delivery has taken place.) But, that is probably because I have unrealistic expectations. :roll:
     
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  48. anantak2k

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    haha :twisted:
     
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    Pistol Pete, your law career will look bleak unless you change your ways. Legal documents have to be sent to the right person. They have to be sent on time (certified too). You have to make your clients happy. Right now, you don't have the skills required of your job tasks.

    You may have a thousand excuses why it's okay for you to not live up to your obligations, but I hope you realize they have to be done properly regardless.
     
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    You are all correct. It's my fault. I really need some self-evaluation. So sorry everyone on TW thread. Hopefully I'll change my ways. My apologies.
     
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