Novak Djokovic will definitely be next #1 in the world and a legend

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  1. rafan

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    What a mess the tables would be without Fed and Nadal - the nuber one spot would be inconsistant - and doesn't that tell you about the state of tennis today?
     
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  2. Baghdatis72

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    It says that Federer and Nadal are dominating for the time being.
     
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  3. poplar

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    It's funny how nadal and djoke share some of their fans :)

    nadal is great...but how can anyone root for djoke? he's an arrogant timeout abuser. i do think his game is very promising. just wait till he become #1 one day and hear what comes out of his mouth then. right now i am watching him taking just another timeout and listening to the commentors frustrated about the rule abusing. yeah, you can excuse him for being so young. but i dont see other young players doing what he does.

    sometimes i really think nadal deserves better fans like the threat starter. going against what most people think and bashing federer doesn't automatically make you a hero or sth. actually the majority of people like to dislike with a reason.
     
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  4. dh003i

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    What Djoko does against Federer? Gets his a.ss kicked. See the Australian Open, where Federer humiliated him.
     
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  5. Baghdatis72

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    Yes and that was in the past and we're talking about the future.
    4 years ago Federer lost to Nalbandian at the US Open in 4 sets but then went on to become the number 1 over Nalbandian.
     
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  6. dh003i

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    Baghdatis,

    The very recent past. Do you really think Djoko's improved so much since then? Come on. Even if he has -- so had Bagh's. Big deal.

    Federer's still the same guy who cremated all of the "up-and-coming players" in straights at the AO, just now he's going through a rough patch on his worst surface (just may have emerged from it, we'll see).

    I don't know who the "next great player is", but I think that anyone who will be in their prime while Federer is still in the prime or even sub-prime (so long as not decline) of his career will have a tough time being great, unless they can make some inroads after Federer retires.

    Maybe Djoko is young enough. But I don't see him doing anything while Federer's still here.
     
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  7. ksbh

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    LOL! Probably true.

     
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  8. SuperPhong

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    dh003i,

    I don't think Baghdatis is saying Djoke will dominate Federer tomorrow, it's rather he has the potential to do so, I don't understand why all the Fed fan's get bent out of shape because there is speculation that Fed will be overhelmed one day as the number 1, it will happen maybe not today but in a few years, hence the joy of seeing up and coming talent to take over for the "old" players that are on a decline. With Fed there is only one direction he can go....which is down...since he's already on top of the world... it might happen next year...or 7 years from now...who knows but it will hapen.
     
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  9. MHobbit

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    I haven't been too impressed by Djokovic. I think his dedication his good, but other than that, his recent wins aren't too notable IMHO. I think he's way overconfident (he's actually said that he thought he was in control of a match, but he was playing horribly...) and needs much more experience before becoming #1, if at all (right now, I would doubt it). He may be ranked #5 in the world right now, but we'll see how it is at the end of the year, which I'd say would be more representative of his success and potential.
     
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  10. dh003i

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    SuperPhong,

    Actually, he can go up by winning the FO and GS, but beyond that you're right.

    I dunno, maybe Djoko will be the one to take over after Federer's eventual decline.
     
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  11. bagung

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    djokovic is different from nadal and federer...
    djokovis is arrogant and 'talk big'.. the interview on him at the fO 2006 after loosing from nadal is 'sick'......
    he has to learn from nadal and fed on " how to become the champ and be a gentleman "
     
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  12. Don Felder

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    I don't understand what the fuss is about this guy. People slam Davydenko's game for being boring, but Djok's game isn't any more exciting to watch. I saw his match against Jieminen today where he was faking leg cramps in the third... move perfectly during the point, then hobble around in between. I've cramped myself in some long matches and I know it can be easy to "tune out" during points if you're not too bad, but the way he was hamming it up in between EVERY point was just blatant gamesmanship. Not to mention he was doing running start, jumping fistpumps at the end of the match - whatever adrenaline he had going during points is NOT going to allow him to do that at the end of the match if he's really hurt that bad.

    The guy has talent for sure, but I definitely don't see him being destined for "dominant" status in his prime. I don't see what everyone else sees that sets him apart from the rest of the younger guys on tour.
     
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  13. Baghdatis72

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    dh003i,

    You didn't get anything I said judging from your reply. Great players and legends do not become legends in a day or a month but in a long period of time. Federer didn't just start playing tennis one day and suddenly he dominated everything. There were times where Federer lost to most of his opponents until he slowly started to improve and started beating some of the top players till the day when he started dominating the tour.
    Right now Djokovic is at the very beginning of his career and he is the number 6 in the World with convincing performances and consistent results. Of course he didn't beat Federer yet but make no mistake that the day will come one day sooner or later as they have like 5-6 years age difference between them.
    Also from all the youngsters the ones who proved that they have a promising future in the top 10 are Djokovic and Nadal and right now no one is dominating the ATP because Federer is still in his prime and he is hard to beat on all surfaces (maybe except clay :p ).

    So my point is that in my opinion Djokovic is the one to take Federer's place, if anyone is ever going to take it sometime, with Nadal having a glimpse of it before Djokovic does for a long time. Of course this is just an estimate and we don't have a clue about young players just emerging or if some players are going to be injured for a long time and so on but Djokovic has shown that he has the ability to get results and show a good performance on all surfaces and in a steady rising pattern and that's what is needed in the today's tour to be one of the best.


    You totally got my point there SuperPhong ;)

    Federer won't dominate forever whether he wants it or not except if he has discovered the fountain of youth and immortality and will never age or die. Someone else will be number 1 in a few years whether you like it or not.
     
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  14. megraf

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    Oh boy. You choker fans make me puke.
    When are goign to stop this "Chocker will be number 1" garb?
    It's stupid and never going to happen.
    So quit it.
     
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  15. Hot Sauce

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    You're definitely being contradictory to your name!
     
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  16. skip1969

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    ahhhhh . . . i remember the good old days, back when you actually had to DO something before people started patting you on the back and spewing forth about your 'greatness.'
     
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