NTRP (estimated) 2.5 Wall Practice (Video)

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  1. TomT

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    Well, I win lots of points. Lots of games go to multiple deuces. But I generally lose the matches. :) It's all fun of course.

    If you're going to be over by the port and want to hit, then email me and I'll give you my number.
     
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    Sounds Good! :)
     
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    Congratulations! You're actually one of the very few people on here that actually underestimates his NTRP.

    You have nice old school strokes. I don't wanna place a number on it, but I like your slice and your backhands in general a lot. Good stuff and don't be so hard on yourself. If only other people on here were as modest as you.
     
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    Thanks for the input and encouraging comments. But I think you might agree that in order to compete at higher levels then I'm going to have to learn to hit solidly with topspin off both sides, because that's what's enabled and required by the modern racquet and string technology.

    I'm pretty sure that the 4.0s I play against are sort of taking it easy on me. :) But, that said, I don't think that their best efforts are so far removed from mine that I might not some day, given enough practice, be competitive with them. The goal right now is just to become a solid 3.5. If I ever achieve that, then I'll raise the bar.
     
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    I agree with this. I am a month shy of 56 had knee surgery 4 months ago and a chronically inflamed left ankle, I can no longer compete with guys 25 years younger at 4.5 singles. I might could if I had a huge serve but my style is to do everything moderately well and not have a weakness. I do attack the net a fair bit and I can hit aggressively off the ground but the point is I don't have a shot to blow people off the court. Without a big weapon, it is very difficult to make up for a lack of movement in singles.

    But, in a 55 and over 4.5 tourney; I could be competitive in singles and doubles.
     
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    Then I'd like to see some videos of you playing, or at least practice hitting. I think I might learn something, and anyway, as you can probably tell from this thread, I love tennis videos. :)
     
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    Tom,

    I've been lurking on the forums for the last three months... but I finally had to register and thank you for posting your videos.

    If you lived closer, I think we'd enjoy hitting together.
    Especially with your attitude on the courts (and on the forums).

    Glad to read your posts!

    Joe
     
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    Thanks Joe. Post some vids. :)
     
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    I would definitely focus on getting the proper form down first before using a wall. The ball comes back at you really fast so you really do not have any time to think about the proper form. Form is everything.
     
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    Thanks, rten885, for your input. (Post some vids.)

    Below is a recap of the wall hitting vids in this thread. (Maybe I'll start another thread on ~ 3.0 match play.)

    In this vid I was sort of just banging away. Not very good form at all.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmC_RonvQq4&feature=plcp

    In this vid I was trying to come over the backhand. A little better form than the first vid maybe. But still not very good.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE6SFXZDsc0

    This is TT poster vil hitting against a wall. Much better form than mine.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaWjLFvbzHs&feature=plcp

    This guy looks to me like a very accomplished player. I won't guess what level, but his strokes look very solid to me. I think he's using the wall very constructively. Good practice. As you say, rten885, proper form is the key.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNiXrgAtjxc

    Here's a (possibly controversial) question. Considering the last two vids, what kind of a match would it be between vil (the guy in the second to the last vid) and the guy in the last vid? It's pure speculation of course, but I'm just curious what some of the more knowledgeable TT posters would say.
     
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    My money would have to be on the last guy (Simon Konov). I like his control and his movement more than the second last guy who seems to be just hitting really hard onto the wall ... albeit with some fair accuracy.

    That could be just because I know Simon is playing futures though and I know nothing about the other guy.
     
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    I doubt it would be a close match. Simon is younger, quicker, has great footwork, and has very nice strokes. His game has probably been groomed by years of instruction and coaching. The guy in the previous video looks to be a capable player, but his wall work isn't anything out of the ordinary.
     
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    :) Nice comment.
     
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    I have to agree with you and gmatheis. vil's strokes are much better than mine, and it looks to me like Simon's are better than vil's. Anyway, I think that both vil and Simon have demonstrated that wall practice can be beneficial in that it's possible to practice good habits, and therefore improve your game, on the wall.
     
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    Thanks but not being nice. It's actually the truth (about that guy), as far as I know, and it's also what I consider to be most rewarding about playing competitive tennis. By the way, that guy and I have a great head to head rivalry. He's won about 6 or 7 matches, and I've only won 3, the last one being the playoff match in the vid. Our matches are so close because we make soooo many unforced errors. :)

    But, you know, we're both bona fide tennis nuts. :)
     
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    Keep up the good work Tom, I enjoy seeing your stuff :)
     
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    Thanks gmatheis. Post some vids. I love vids. I think we all love vids. Vids are instructional and, perhaps most importantly, entertaining. :)
     
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    I liked this flat forehand. Felt real good. But I noticed in the vid that maybe my left arm should be doing something different. Maybe not. I don't know. Criticism, comments. Also, please post your own vids.
    Forehand
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQa4VIRh5d8

    And, yeah, it hit the netcord. (think: Jimmy Connors ... very little net clearance, very risky, but hard to deal with because those kinds of shots take away time from the opponent).
     
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    If you keep your left arm across your body a bit longer (instead of jerking it away early), you might have a more coiled/well-timed shoulder turn.
     
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    Thanks psv255. That's sort of what I was thinking as well.
     
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    TomT, is this the park where Jimmy Evert used to coach? I lived and played at the Tennis Club of Fort Lauderdale a few decades ago. What a great place to live at. From your living room to the courts !!!!! And I used to race catamarans at the beach. I miss Florida, and especially Fort Lauderdale. What a beauty !!!
     
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    Oscar Wegner, nice to hear from you. I like your stuff. To answer your question, no, Jimmy Evert coached at and managed the (mostly) clay courts at Holiday Park, which are now called the Jimmy Evert Tennis Center. I used to watch Chris Evert and her brother John and sister Jeanie, as well as John Lloyd, practicing there. All wonderful tennis players.

    The park where I play and live close to has four poorly maintained (but lighted) hard courts ... Florence Hardy Park. It's only a few miles from Holiday Park (the Jimmy Evert Tennis Center).

    Yeah, Fort Lauderdale is great for old timers like me. I've been back here for about 3 years now. Love it.

    The Tennis Club of Fort Lauderdale isn't very far from Holiday Park. Nice place from what I hear.
     
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    You have good serve, reliable slice, and quite amazing movement even 65 years old.
     
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    Thanks for the encouraging comments ShoeShiner. Post some vids of your play.
     
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