O3 Hybrids, O3 White, and Speedport Black

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  1. MikeHitsHard93

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    These are all going for a great price, and they all seem to be really popular tweeners with large sweet spots, good power and spin, and decent maneuverability. Have any of you tried them? What do you think? Btw the hybrids I'm talking about are the hornet and shark mp.
     
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  2. ricki

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    SP Black is a great stick - almost players stick but with some serious power, If you ase used to hit with spin go for it.
     
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    O3 White is my favorite racquet. Great for serving, very nice groundies, easy spin and power, plush feeling (some people call it muted), big sweet spot. Voleys are a bit less good then with some other frames. It comes stock bang-on to the spec you like. All of mine had swing weight a bit under the TW adverised (322?). I normally add few grams of led to 2/10 unless stringing with a heavy string.

    O3 Hybrid Shark MP is almost identical racquet, especially if you added just a bit of weight in the handle. It's slightly stiffer and less O ports, so it has a bit more feedback / less plush. Mine produces the best hitting sound ever :) SW is also less then TW's 324...

    O3 Hornet and Speedport Black, I never tried. Didn't like the stock specs enough to give it a go... Black has 327 SW, too much as a starting point. Hornet coud possibly be nice with some wieight in the handle. Both are stiffer then White and Shark, so definitelly not for me.
     
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  4. MikeHitsHard93

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    Thanks blueb! I forgot that you were a prince specialist :) haha. I think the shark may be a good all around frame and they're very cheap. I played with the is version years ago and played well with it, but never the mp. I agree that the black is probably too sluggish. I think the hornet could be a sleeper though.
     
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    Also pay attention to the TT Turbo Shark. Very much the same thing as the O cousins, but more direct feedback. My wife's favorite stick. I think it was designed as Prince's answer to Pure Drive. Hard to find new, though.
     
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    Mike...also check out the Red 105. The Hornet MP is also an outstanding racquet.
     
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  7. MikeHitsHard93

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    Will do. My friend has an o3 red with a hybrid setup that I want to try. I'm guessing that the hornet would be a quicker version of the shark, but similarly stable. These are all probably rackets that should be just fine for my level. Maybe I'll do a blind purchase on a hornet... They're so cheap
     
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  8. KFwinds

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    You won't go wrong with the White or the Black. I currently have an O3 White Original and used to use the Speedport Black and Exo3 Black a few yrs ago. I think I like the White a little better since it has a little more flex than the Blacks and therefore a bit more feel (your mileage may vary...). My Speedport Blacks had absolutely zero feedback unless I used the hole grommets and/or strung them at higher tensions. BTW, my fav grommet configuration on those was holes on the sides and throat, ports on the top.
     
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    The O3 White is great... and better than the EXO3 White and EXO3 Warrior. Good power, huge sweetspot, and not too stiff.
     
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    My wife has a Hybrid Shark. It's a really nice stick. It is also quite a sharp looking frame.

    It took me about two balls to get used to the lighter weight and 2 pt HL distribution compared to my normal stick, a 4D200T. It's just a really sweet frame, forgiving, plenty of pop, not too stiff or soggy. Easy access to topspin.

    One of the best deals on TW for sure.
     
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    I honestly believe anyone could pick up the Prince O3 Hybrid Shark Midplus and have a great play with it!

    I almost mentioned it to you in a previous thread but didnt want to muddy the water with the direction you were already going. (MGRMP)

    Sweetspot is huge, hitting off center shots (the top of the hoop) is extremely forgiving and it almost feels head heavy in my hand.

    Both my 58 yr. old father (3.0) and my wife (3.5) play with this stick and love it. I don't play with this frame but anytime I'm messing around with it I love it. Overall great racket! Great from the baseline.

    Prince O3 Hybrid Shark Midplus = Super crazy easy to play with!

    Put some POSG in there at mid tension and see how it feels!
     
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  12. MikeHitsHard93

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    Thanks everyone for the replies. Very helpful
     
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  13. MikeHitsHard93

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    I now have a question for you all: since I have not hit with any of these frames but I know that I am a o3 and prince fan and have an idea of how they will feel, should I buy just one frame or should I go ahead and buy two?..if I end up loving it I would want another one and I don't want to worry about QC. But I don't want to waste money again
     
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    If you could get an Exo3 black, I would recommend that over the speedport version. I have also used many other older "O port" racquets and found them to be string eaters with poor tension maintenence (probably due to the weird grommets). This issue was imho cleared up with the new exo3 design.
     
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  15. MikeHitsHard93

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    Yeah I wish I had a Exo 3 black..
     
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    Why not just get a cheapo used one. If you needed go resell you'd hardly loose any money. If you liked it, would become a backup.
     
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  17. MikeHitsHard93

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    TW doesn't have any used ones
     
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    I'm a high school player (almost 18), and Prince 03 White was my first racket. It was comfortable, helped me back when I had the worst strokes ever, and helped me a lot when I started getting into net play...
     
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    Classifieds, or Bay.
     
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  20. MikeHitsHard93

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    Are the exo3 black and SP black really that different?
     
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    Which one or these is the most arm friendly? I've recently developed some good ole TE :/ goes all the way down my arm
     
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    I can help get you a brand new EXO 3 Black. I saw one in a big box store in San Diego last weekend. I forget which grip size it was. They were selling it for $100. I could give you the details if interested. I'm actually headed back there next weekend. May have to take a closer look.
     
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    I believe the O3 White to be the most arm friendly. I played the EXO 3 Black. With full poly it tweaked my elbow. Played surprisingly good with syn gut though.
     
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    not really. I dont get why people here talk in a bad way about speed port black. Its a boomstick and very demanded until today, just look at auctions on that big site, they sell for money near new racqets!

    Speed ports are de-facto EXO (both same shape opposed to round(elliptic) O-ports)
     
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  25. MikeHitsHard93

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    That's ok man don't worry about it. I don't want you going through too much hassle for me :) I might just buy a hornet and a shark since they are so similar.
     
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    ^^ have used both the hornet and the shark, they play nothing at all like the Exo Black (which plays much better).
     
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  27. MikeHitsHard93

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    Why does it play much better?
     
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    Some advice for you Mike (if you don't mind)... don't put so much value in others' opinions. For every person that tells you the EXO3 Black is awesome, you can find just as many that say it is a piece of garbage.

    And don't worry so much about always having 2 matched frames. Do you break strings? I thought you were around a 3.5, so I'm guessing not (no offense). Just buy one of something and play with it. Spend a few months with it, and if you still like it, then buy a 2nd one as a backup. Or if you like trying different frames, pick up something different but similar for your 2nd frame. If you do break a string and have to play with a different frame, it's really not the end of the world.

    I hope you don't take offense to this, because it's not meant that way. I've just seen all of your posts lately and you seem to be on a yo-yo with trying to find the correct frame based solely on others opinions.

    Now on the other hand... if you enjoy the hunt, then carry on. :)
     
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  29. MikeHitsHard93

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    Really appreciate this post, and no I don't take any offense whatsoever :) I realize that I take too much consideration of others opinions on here, and I let people almost make my decisions for me. I'm not that way in the real world, just talk tennis because I'm so eager to get something thatll help me and end my search lol.

    I really want to e done with searching for a racket. I need something that's light, packs a punch, but still has good control and comfort. I dry swung a o3 hybrid hornet the other day and it felt very natural to me.

    I'm not a string breaker, no. I agree that I shouldn't buy two. I have my pro open as a backup.

    Thanks again for your response. Please feel free to add more haha
     
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    Well, now that I told you to stop listening to people :)... when you said 'something that's light, packs a punch, but still has good control and comfort', it made me think of two frames... the O3 White and the Pure Drive Lite. Don't let the Babolat haters dissuade you because the PD Lite is all of those things you mentioned. It is more flexible and comfortable than the regular PD, yet still really solid for it's light static weight.
     
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    Yeah I've taken a look at the PD lite, but the lite name just throws me off. I started using prince rackets and I think I'm gonna stick with them because I love the huge sweet spots.
     
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    I hate to be the one to bring this up, but nobody has mentioned the Speedport's cracking issue. From what I've heard, the SP Black, White and Tour have a tendency to crack at 2 and 10 from normal use. I don't know the extent of this problem, but it is a factor to consider before making your final decision :-?
     
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    Just do it! Once you get used to the legendary P, there is no turning back :) Even the dinosaur POG is way comfier/better then most of what came after from other brands...
     
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    Dude I totally forgot about that! My friends Speedport black cracked!... That was forever ago and the reason why he stopped using prince rackets.

    I've made my decision. Going with the hornet. I like the lightning strings it comes with too. Double bonus. Now what to do with my microgels...
     
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    Make sure to post the impressions!
     
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  36. MikeHitsHard93

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    Will do man. I just hope this is the end of the racket journey :( lol
     
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    speedport black

    i have been using the speedport black for about 6 years
    transitioned from the shark mp longbody, to the O3 white, then to the speedport black mp.
    the speedport black mp has great power, especially with poly strings,
    if your shoulder and arm can take it. i had to do hybrid so i could play on consecutive days. since the speedport black mp was discontinued,
    i actually tried to transition to the Ex0 black, but the balance point was a little different, so i didnt like it.

    the main issue with the speedport black mp is that the frames are fragile, and tend to break. i have broken 4 over the past few years, i bought some used ones, so that might be part of the problem. with the large gromments strips, the frames seem to be more fragile. in fact, my new frame, less than a year old broke
    i still have 3 frames left, one is at least 4 years old, the others at least 2 years old.

    as many of the online places sell the speedport black mp for $99 or less
    you can afford to have a few

    z
     
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  38. MikeHitsHard93

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    Yeah....no thanks man LOL. I can't afford a few.
     
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  39. Doubles

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    I asked this in your other thread, but why not just buy another Pro Open and be done with it?
     
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  40. MikeHitsHard93

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    I bought one and it cracked :(
     
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    But what are the odds of that happening again? Two different guys that play on the Varsity team at my university play with the Pro Open. They both hit harder and break strings more often that you or I do. Of that I'm sure. Anyway, they don't have any problems with their frames cracking.

    All I'm suggesting is that since you seemed to like your Pro Open it would make more sense to stick with it and develop your game with it rather than spending money trying to find a different stick and changing your game because of it.
     
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  42. MikeHitsHard93

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    Oh yeah I totally agree. I'm just afraid it gonna crack again or be completely off spec, but I guess I could lead it up. At least I would know what I'm getting. I've learned a lot on this frame.

    Is the new one the exact same racket?
     
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  43. Doubles

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    Here's the new one, you would have to look at the specs of yours to compare: http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpage-WPOB.html

    At this price though, you could probably pick up a pair of those, requesting matching specs to that of your current pro open and then rotate all three.
     
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