Offensive vs Defense

Discussion in 'Adult League & Tournament Talk' started by dlam, Nov 3, 2012.

?

Winners tend to play which style?

  1. Mostly defensive style

    2 vote(s)
    6.5%
  2. Mostly offensive style

    17 vote(s)
    54.8%
  3. About the same strokes ut weight slightly more offensive style

    11 vote(s)
    35.5%
  4. About the same strokes but weight slightly more on defensive style

    1 vote(s)
    3.2%
  1. dlam

    dlam Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2010
    Messages:
    380
    Do you consider yourself an offensive tennis player or more of a defensive specialist with most of your strokes?
     
    #1
  2. LeeD

    LeeD Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2008
    Messages:
    37,234
    Location:
    East side of San Francisco Bay
    All. Every match is different, different players, different skill sets, different guys playing well and poorly.
    Since I can't run, I tend to play offense, so I don't have to run and fetch for the other guy.
     
    #2
  3. OrangePower

    OrangePower Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2007
    Messages:
    4,071
    Location:
    NorCal Bay Area
    Offensive. And much too stubborn about it for my own good. There are times when I would get better results by dialing it back a little bit - like when I'm not making my shots, instead of just continuing to go for it, the smart play is to be a bit more conservative and play myself into form. But, I am too stupid / stubborn for that :)
     
    #3
  4. Cindysphinx

    Cindysphinx G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2006
    Messages:
    15,092
    I play doubles, so offense.

    Indeed, I rarely lose a point by going for too little on my shots. :)
     
    #4
  5. LeeD

    LeeD Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2008
    Messages:
    37,234
    Location:
    East side of San Francisco Bay
    When I go for "too little", I'm allowing the opponents to take the upper hand and control the point.
    When I go for "too much", I"m taking the upper hand and often miss long or wide, giving the opponent the upper hand.
    Every so often, I go for "just enough", and actually win a point.
     
    #5
  6. floridatennisdude

    floridatennisdude Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2012
    Messages:
    1,975
    Everyone on TT is on offense. We only play defense against current or recently retired touring pros.
     
    #6
  7. NLBwell

    NLBwell Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2004
    Messages:
    7,160
    Everyone on offense (including me), but defense wins championships.
     
    #7
  8. Fuji

    Fuji Legend

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2010
    Messages:
    6,597
    I'm a defensively minded player with an offensive styled game. Figure that one out, I'm still trying to as well!

    -Fuji
     
    #8
  9. tennis tom

    tennis tom Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2007
    Messages:
    2,767
    LeeD, what ailment is it that keeps you from running?
     
    #9
  10. NLBwell

    NLBwell Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2004
    Messages:
    7,160
    I believe LeeD suffers from old age (as do I).
     
    #10
  11. NTRPolice

    NTRPolice Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2012
    Messages:
    525
    Depends who I am playing with/against and I guess it depends how you define "offense" and "defense".
     
    #11
  12. Mike Y

    Mike Y Rookie

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2011
    Messages:
    182
    Location:
    Bay Area
    Yeah it really depends on who you play. Many of my "safe" shots are winners against lower level players. If I play against a high-level freak athlete player, even my "winner" shots are not winners. My defense is really good, so a lot of "hard hitters" will be unable to hit winners against me. So your offense vs. defense really depends on your perspective. But if you are hitting the ball out often on your 3rd or 4th shot of the point, then you are not a shot-making hard hitter, you are just playing stupid.
     
    #12
  13. anantak2k

    anantak2k Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    May 1, 2007
    Messages:
    587
    Location:
    Miami, FL
    This depends a lot on my opponent. I absolutely love being in control of the point but that is not always the case if I come across who rips the fur off the ball. I don't play all out offensive shots but I play shots where the goal to to make my opponent play shots that they don't like or put them in a bad position.

    Controlled aggression is the way to go for me. Unfortunately, I get very drop shot and lob happy once in a while and start making too many errors.
     
    #13
  14. PushyPushster

    PushyPushster Rookie

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2007
    Messages:
    311
    Location:
    Atlanta, GA
    Purely defensive. I need someone to give me that Unforced Error. Or just quit due to boredom. I'm not picky.
     
    #14
  15. Mauvaise

    Mauvaise Rookie

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2011
    Messages:
    194
    Location:
    Phoenix, AZ
    Unfortunately, I'm mostly offensive. But I don't have the skill to match my style. ;) I tend to try too hard and go for too much when at my level (3.0) I just need to get the darn ball back over the net and wait for them to make the mistake.

    I'm trying to learn to be more of a defensive player. I start out my matches by telling myself, "You don't have to win the match on the first point." I tell myself (after I've sprayed one too many returns) "Just start the point!"

    I am trying to learn to wait for the set up to try to hit a winner rather than forcing it (which almost never works for me).
     
    #15
  16. LeeD

    LeeD Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2008
    Messages:
    37,234
    Location:
    East side of San Francisco Bay
    I have the skills and technique to win offensively in 4.0, but don't have the legs to set up correctly once I get there.
    Seems a couple of detached tendons from ankle to foot, and a swelling medial collateral, allows me to just get there, but without the footwork needed to hit a correct shot.
     
    #16
  17. MrCLEAN

    MrCLEAN Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2007
    Messages:
    341
    Location:
    Arlington, TX
    Offensively inclined, but have to be careful not to be too much so.

    I like to play neutral until i get an honest opening, then get aggressive to finish the point. I never like to play "defensively", in that my overall strategy is to just retrieve until the other guy misses. The only time I'll do that is if I have an opponent that is SO inconsistent, that I know he'll miss within a few shots simply because of his poor technique. In that case, I don't mind just putting it in the middle of the court and letting him self destruct, but it's not much fun to play like that, nor does it happen very often.
     
    #17
  18. mib

    mib New User

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2012
    Messages:
    46

    Same here. I consider myself to be an aggressive percentage player.
     
    #18
  19. Maui19

    Maui19 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2010
    Messages:
    1,659
    Is it bad if I don't know the answer? I would say that when I'm hitting the ball well, I play aggressively, trying to pressure my opponents. However if I'm making errors, I definitely back off and work on keeping it in play and letting my opponent lose the point.
     
    #19
  20. sundaypunch

    sundaypunch Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    May 17, 2011
    Messages:
    1,681
    The vast majority of people are defensive tennis players that consider themselves offensive players. Most don't like the idea of being defensive so they always hit beyond their capabilities. You can often get away with this because your opponent does the same thing.
     
    #20
  21. dlam

    dlam Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2010
    Messages:
    380
    Being aggressive is not the same as offensive minded player
    players can play "aggressive " defense as oppose to " passive" defense
    There are some players who play really well "passive" offensive
    My feeling is "aggressive" defense is better than " aggressive " offense
     
    #21
  22. beernutz

    beernutz Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2005
    Messages:
    4,426
    Location:
    expanding my Ignore List
    I play much more offensively and aggressively in doubles than in singles. In singles I try to play percentage tennis and look for openings or short balls to attack, however, even in those situations I usually try to set up a winner rather than hit it outright at the first opportunity. The only thing I do more offensively in singles is serve where I try to hit bigger serves to take control of the point. On the other hand, in doubles I will try to take something off my first serve to get a higher percentage of them in, particularly when I have a good net player as a partner.

    In doubles though I try to be the fly in the ointment so to speak and disrupt anything coming across the middle. Even if I sometimes get burned down the line I see that as just a cost of doing business and controlling the middle. I serve and volley on 100% of first serves and a high percentage of second serves until the receivers prove to me that they are capable of winning more than 50% of those points.
     
    #22
  23. mib

    mib New User

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2012
    Messages:
    46
    The point of being an aggressive percentage player is to put pressure on the opponent, but avoid going for too much. An aggressive defender would be a counter-puncher.

    Of course, this is all relative -- when playing against a better player one is often forced to go for broke or to play passive defense.
     
    #23
  24. dlam

    dlam Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2010
    Messages:
    380
    Why not be a aggressive on defense and passive on offense ?
    Most mistakes are made when tennis players try to be too aggressive on offense and too passive on defense
     
    #24
  25. Magnetite

    Magnetite Professional

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2011
    Messages:
    907
    I'd rather go down swinging.
     
    #25
  26. NTRPolice

    NTRPolice Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2012
    Messages:
    525
    Interesting.

    This gives me a lot to think about. haha
     
    #26
  27. r5d3

    r5d3 New User

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2012
    Messages:
    76
    Pretty much depends on the shot. On forehand I tend to be adventurous, but on backhand I hardly ever go for a lot of pace and winners, unless it's a drop shot. I just try to pin it as close to the baseline as possible.
     
    #27
  28. dlam

    dlam Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2010
    Messages:
    380
    I dont think an agressive baseliner is an offensive player.
    Just a good agressive defender.

    Serve and volleyer are the epitome of offense plays.
    Getting to the net and going for the angles are easier at the net than from the baseline.

    The volley game is superior and the main strategy in doubles.


    I dont see a doubles game where the strategy for both players is playing an agressive swinging baseline game.
     
    #28

Share This Page