Official 2 Handed Forehand Thread

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  1. Brian11785

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    Good stuff, man. I like the short takeback and the fluid, controlled motion you have in the hitting wall video. You looked very balanced in that video. In the point play video, you seem to be really going after the ball and exerting a lot more energy than you did when hitting against the wall (and I would argue more than what is needed.)
     
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    For Mayers way with the dominate hand on top, what would the grip be?
     
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    hey you are right, I have a tendency to hit harder and very flat in actual point play. This leads to more errors :( I was using more topspin in the wall video. I am going to evolve the stroke so i can use more topspin in actual point play.
     
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    You really need to stop your over-rotation on the two-handed forehand. You are losing racquet head speed because your body is swinging the racquet. The Kinetic chain needs to have initial links slow or stop to allow the later links to speed up. If you can keep your back foot down and allow your racquet to swing through, keeping your upper body more quiet through contact, you will increase your speed and spin.

    A tool is to "Hit and Hold" your finish. Pose for a moment establishing balance after your follow-through. Allow your hands to finish the stroke without your body swinging around.
     
  7. DoctorBackhand

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    Just a nice liitle sequence showing the shoulder rotation on a two hander. Thought it might be useful.
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    A cursory look at the sequence seems to show that in the last pic (lower left), his right hand went from the bottom to the top of the grip.

    I appreciate these posts on the two handed forehand. One of my students had a wrist injury (he's right handed) that required some minor surgery to repair but nearly two years later, he's not able to hit a one-handed forehand without pain. We've experimented with the "two backhands" (a la JM Gambil) and cross-handed styles, and he finds the former much more efficient, except for the switching of the hands. He's very athletic and well-coordinated and was a solid 4.0 player, but this new technique has really set him back.
     
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    thanks for the advice. to clarify, you want me to use more of my arms during the stroke? i will try to keep my back foot down and swing my racquet through more. also please dont include technical stuff like kinetic chain etc in your reply, that stuff confuses me lol:confused:
     
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    What he means (or, at least, what I believe he means) is that when you rotate into your shot, you swing with your entire body turning as one unit. You are supposed to have segments in your stroke that fire off rapidly once you start to swing forward.

    In most strokes, you are supposed to have little segments that build off of one another to generate more speed. Kind of like spinning a key chain, little movements from one part of the body provide energy for larger movements at the end of the swing.
    https://youtu.be/UN6L0MICG1w
    If you look at Djokovic's backhand, his hips do not rotate nearly as much as his shoulders, which likewise do not move as far as his hands.
    https://youtu.be/AmPJFvNlPDM?t=2m12s
    In your forehand, at tht frame, your hips and shoulders have moved together and are almost aligned. There are no segments, everything turns together.

    To have an effecient swing, you need to have that segmentation in your strokes. Otherwise, you're losing a lot of potential power. Your body can only rotate so fast.
     
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  14. Brian11785

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    So I recorded myself and a friend hitting tonight. Sadly, this isn't the greatest camera angle to show off my forehand. But my backhand looks good......




    Things I notice:

    - Really short backswing on the forehand.
    - Getting more of a loop on my backhand than I used to (this is a new thing; my forehand has always had decent topspin, but, until recently, I hit my backhand primarily flat.)
    - Not finishing as prettily on the forehand side as I am on the backhand side. Not really as fluid either.
    - Dang, I'm balding.
     

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