***Official K Blade Tour Club Thread***

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by thejuice, Feb 13, 2008.

  1. chirpy

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    well im getting a kb98 on 1st of May without demoing! i would demo but there is like no demo program where i live (australia). Hope its as good as it seems to be.
     
  2. thejuice

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    Please let us know how you like it.
     
  3. BullDogTennis

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    so im thinking about switching to the kblade tour from my flexpoint radical..

    how much of a difference do you think ill feel in the weight, and in the head size?(going from a 98 to a 93)

    thanks!
     
  4. thejuice

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    I can't tell you how it'll feel to you because everyone's game is different but I can tell you that this is the most forgiving 93 sq in. head size I've ever played with. It swings light but once you add an overgrip and possible dampener it will weigh in the mid 12 ounce range so its static weight could cause problems for you if you aren't used to a heavier racquet. All anyone will be able to say is demo, demo, demo.
     
  5. BullDogTennis

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    alrighty, im not really worried about weight, im a pretty big guy...6'2 190 and workout alot. i was more worried about just the drop from a 98 to a 93- i know it didnt take me more than a day to go from arouond a 107 sq in head to a 98. but ill have to get a demo sent, just see how it plays out.
     
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  7. thejuice

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    Great review by Wally!!!
     
  8. thejuice

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    Another great comparison of the KBT to the K90!!!
     
  9. String|Guru

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    I use the K Blade Tour...

    Here is my setup...

    Mains: VS Touch 16 @ 60lbs.
    Crosses: Gamma Zo Tour @ 57 lbs.
    Pro Overgrip
    No lead, perfect right out of the bubble bag!
     
  10. thejuice

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    Thanks for sharing your setup. Welcome to the club!!!
     
  11. Kirko

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    demoed this frame the K-Blade Tour for three weeks. 1st week stock from the pro shop. 2nd week I had them put fresh strings in at my tension and had them add lead at 2 and 10 o'clock, to "fluff up the sweet spot. after thre weeks i knew i found my GRAIL RACKET. I bought one in 4 5/8 added lead at 2 & 10 o'clock. strung at 56 pounds witrh prince syn. gut 17 gauge. this racket is beyond a doubt the best I've played since the orginal head prestige (1988) edition. put me down as a member of course at your discretion. by way of a post script the K-Blade Tour has that awesome wilson grip.
     
  12. thejuice

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    It would be my pleasure to add you to the club!!!
     
  13. ufg8r

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    Best racquet ever. I want in.
     
  14. thejuice

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    You got it!!! Should I assume KBT or are you playing the KB98?
     
  15. Safin777

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    Does anyone know how would weight the KBT with a syn grip instead the leather one? Same or round 15 gr less (the wight added by BAB leather) and 32,5 cm of balance instead the 324gr/31,5 cm listed on the frame? Or the number published refers to the frame without grip?
     
  16. thejuice

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    As far as I know, the numbers usually publised or marked on the frames are all unstrung weight in its stock form, which in this case would include the leather grip.

    To answer your first question, I'm unsure as to what would happen if you added a syn grip because I personally prefer leather grips with overgrips so the only mods I've made is to add an overgrip and play with my string setup (which I will post some of my findings this evening).
     
  17. basil J

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    Juice, this may be the first time in history that I disagree with you regrading a racquet. My buddy had the kblade tour and a K90 for a week long demo last week. I thought the the k90 was much more solid and produced heavier shots. I thought that the KBtour was a little light for a"players"frame and did not like it at all. Now of course 1 time out with a racquet means nothing, but I put it down after a good half hour of hiting and found it completely unremarkable. I like the RDS 002 tour and even the 200G aerogel better. The KB tour just lacked that solid feel I look for. Just my 2cents..
     
  18. Safin777

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    I think that it's a great frame but from what you've posted here It seems that the KBT with a syn grip would weight 314/310 gr. SAme thing it's happening with the new Babolat Storm Ltd
     
  19. paulf

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    K Blade Tour

    Hi

    I just got K Blade Tour - I would like to join the club

    Had a demo for 2 weeks and really enjoyed hitting with it.:)

    Thanks

    Paul
     
  20. thejuice

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    Paulf, you're in my friend.

    Basil, this is one of those racquets that would truly fit in the "to each his own" category, much like the LM Radical, Wilson ROK and K Pro Tour, and oddly enough, the Redondo. I personally like the KBT a lot. I had a match today with a very heavy server and it held up under pressure great on punch and full swing returns. I think the Redondo can hit a heavier ball with less effort from the baseline but I like to s&v a lot and the KBT kills the Redondo at the net IMO.
     
  21. DonBot

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    Put me in the club as well, I have not been able to put it down since I got it a few weeks ago. As for the weight difference in them, it is mainly due to the leather grips- if you take them off they all weigh almost exactly the same.
     
  22. hoodjem

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    So does anyone know how the KBT plays compared to the PS 85?

    Is the KBT the new Pro Staff play-alike?
     
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  23. thejuice

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    DonBot, welcome to the club!!!

    Hoodjem, good question. Anyone???
     
  24. kerxny

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    I've not a clue since I haven't hit with the PS85, but I did get my KBlade Tour today. It's strung with Luxilon Big Banger Rough @ 52.
     
  25. kerxny

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    Can I join? :p
     
  26. In)SpiRe

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    Can anyone compare the KBT to the AeroGel 200? I ordered a KBT from my pro shop, just curious on what to expect. I love my AeroGels but am considering switching if it plays better than my AeroGel[when I play with it of course]. I had a pretty good demo of it earlier in the year and I really liked it. Hope to get the same results when the racquet gets here.
     
  27. thejuice

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    I haven't hit with the Aerogel 200 extensively (just on a court for about an hour or so) but in my opinion, the Aerogel 200 is very similar to the KBT. I would even say that in stock form, it may be a little more solid on groundies. I think the KBT outshines it on serve and at the net (keep in mind, this is in my opinion). With that said, if I wasn't playing the KBT, I would either still be playing the Redondo or the Aerogel 200. Hope that helps a little. :)

    Kerxny, you're in!!!
     
  28. thejuice

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    Ok, I wanted this to be separate from my previous post (my response to Inspire). I have some reviews of different string setups I've been trying. I've never done a string setup review before so I'll try my best.

    The setups I've tried or am trying are as follows:
    NXT 16 full job at 57 (which I'll call NXT57 for my review)
    NXT 16 full job at 54 (NXT54)
    No name hexagonal 17g multi from a local company (full job) at 57 (Hex)
    Klip Detonator 17 (poly mains 54/excellerator crosses 55) (K Det)
    Big Banger Ace 18 mains 54/Gosen Sheep Micro 17 crosses 55 (BB Sheep)

    Feel:
    In the feel department, both NXT setups felt great for the first set or two but got a little mushy for me after a while. I think I'll use the 17g in a hybrid next time but I doubt I'll play a full setup of NXT in serious competition.

    The Hex didn't feel so good at first but began to get better as I broke it in a little bit. The control is really good which makes me want to try a bigger name string to see if it could be better.

    The K Det felt great right away and still does. This could be due to the fact that I've been playing this setup in my two previous racquets (FXP Prestige Mid and Redondo Mid). I just feel like I know where the ball is on the stringbed.

    With all that said, I hit with the BB Sheep combo for the first time today after getting it strung on Friday (in a competitive match no less) and it made me forget that I had two other sticks in my bag. I was hitting the shots I normally hit but with much more bite and spin. I felt like I could do anything. The funny thing is, this setup seems to open up the stringbed so much more than the other setups I have. I know the thinner guage of the BB is the reason why but it looks like another racquet.

    Power:
    Okay, without being so long-winded this time, the NXT54 and NXT57 have the most power, albeit uncontrollable at times. The nod in this department goes to the BB Sheep combo. I might change my mind as it loses tension but for now, this is my setup on the KBT.

    Final rankings:
    1. BB Sheep
    2. K Det
    3. NXT57
    4. Hex
    5. NXT54

    If anyone has any questions, would like to know more, or would like to share what they've tried, please chime in!!!! :):):)
     
  29. bertrevert

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    The thinner gauge would also drop the power, was that ok?

    You like the setup which allows it to "open up the stringbed" is that for more spin or more feel or...?

    Earlier you said that the KBT was most like the Dunlop 200g - just wondering, in your estimation does it swing as heavy as that as well?
     
  30. JohnP

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    I think it's no surprise that you enjoyed the thing BB string setup.

    I still haven't had a chance to really hit with my KBT and so far have only served several baskets of balls but i've already been thinking about how I might tinker with the string setup.

    My first instinct is to try a thinner gauge string. I currently have TF Multifeel 17g (1.25mm) @55lbs which is a great string (and my favorite in the K95) but I am afraid of the lack of bite I seem to get on kickserves. Just from serving a few baskets, my kick serve technique has noticeably changed. I stand with a more open stance and even lean towards adjusting my grip, to try to get up over the ball and get enough bite. It concerns me only because my kickserve is one of my strongest parts of my game and I can hit them in effortlessly with my K95. With the KBT it seems like I have to work really hard to get a good kickserve, and even then it doesn't seem nearly as heavy, efortless, or reliable as with the K95. That being said, I give the KBT the nod for flat serves and hard slice serves. The K95 is the best serving racquet i've ever used, so i'm not surprised that I find weaknesses in the KBT compared to it. It seems that I get just as much pace with the KBT on hard serves, but have slightly more control.

    At any rate, I was throwing around the idea of trying NRG2 in 18g, and maybe trying out some of the thinner polys in a hybrid. I didn't have alot of luck with polys in my K95 but they might be worth a shot in the KBT. Polys I was throwing around in my head include Cyberpower 1.20mm, Luxilon TiMo 1.10mm, and Pro Hurricane 1.20mm. I really like full multi setups in my K95s so i'm going to try NRG 18 first.

    Of course, i'm getting ahead of myself, as I haven't had a real hitting session with this racquet so far (but I can't help it :). I expect to get a hitting session in this week with a hard-hitting friend of mine, and I can't wait...
     
  31. In)SpiRe

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    Yea it does actually. I am actually pretty aggressive when going to net so good volleys are always a priority and my serve does need a little more pace. Hoping the groundstrokes aren't bad though, as I love the baseline as well, and I'll prob end up customizing it.. Thx for the reply.
     
  32. master_stringer_mitchy

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    i love it! got mine strung up in full pro supex blue gear, bit harsh on the arm after many hours play, but its a mans game! any one tried a hybrod that still has a solid feel of poly?
     
  33. thejuice

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    Bertrevert, I didn't notice any drop in power but a great increase in feel which was great for me. Regarding the Aerogel 200, it is very similar to the AG200 but it is more maneuverable which helps it to produce a faster swing on the serve and more control at the net.

    JohnP, please please please let us know how that setup worked for you. I like all of those polys you said you plan on trying too.

    Inspire, I'm still contemplating on adding lead at 10 and 2 to stretch that sweetspot out a little to add a little to the gounrdstroke game. I'm just afraid of messing up a good thing on the serve and at net. I'll let you all know if I do it though.
     
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    oooh, i have added 6 grams of lead, 3 at both 3 and 6, helps alot
     
  35. wally

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    A little lead for the head

    A brief update:

    Using ½ inch lead tape I added a 4’’ strip centered at 9 a 4’’ strip centered at 3 and a 4’’ strip centered at 12. Total weight 6g I then added 6g wrapped around a point roughly 4cm up from the butt cap. The Blade now weighs 12.0z strung gripped & overgripped.

    Playtest – I was looking for a tad more stability and a bit more of a solid feeling from the back of the court without losing the serving and maneuverability I raved about in the initial review. I may have hit the jackpot – Serves were a bit bigger with an even better kick on second serves, volleys were still very sweet and there was a noticeable improvement in ground strokes. Attacking is still this sticks forte but now you can block back the hard serve a lot easier and generate more depth.
    During rallies I just crushed a couple of forehands , yet still had enough tough & feel for a delicate passing shot and angled forehands. Backhands were steady & solid
     
  36. bertrevert

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    ^^^ Stop it Wally you're making me feel like I have to add the 93 to my 98 and that is going to make me go broke! What surface are you having this success on?
     
  37. wally

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    Indoor hardcourt. I'm looking forward to taking it outside (more hardcourts) Its not been a very nice spring here so I haven't played much outdoors at all :(
     
  38. thejuice

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    Wally, thanks for adding that review to this thread. I think a lot of people will try your setup.
     
  39. Vin2

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    Excellent, thanks for sharing that info Wally.

    I've finally found my preferred setup in terms of adding lead tapes. I just need to play around with string tension now to get it nice and perfect :D
     
  40. thejuice

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    So Vin, did you try the same setup??? I'd like to hear if you had the same results as Wally.
     
  41. anirut

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    Hi Juice,

    I've tried out KBT yesterday, courtesy of supawat, a Thai member of this board.

    I won't compare it to the Redondo, as you already know what it'd be like.

    But, comparing to the new Black Ace 93, the new Black sits nicely between the KBT and the Redondo. It's stiffer than the Red but not as stiff as the KBT. One TP tried out both rackets along side and he was kinda torn between the two.

    I think if the Black had the same high quality string as the KBT a decision may be easier to have come about.

    Too bad the new Black 93's not available to TW. Even the PK Italy site has only the 98 shown. Even my Black 93's the only one to have come by the ASEAN region.
     
  42. thejuice

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    Yeah, I would love to get my hands on a pair of Black Ace 93's. I may have to break down and try to see if Xube can get me some. I hate the pj though.
     
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    One thing I don't like about the Black ...

    It comes with synthetic grip. And this made it pretty light in stock form. Once leather has replaced the syn grip, the rackets weights as much as the Redondo.

    I have kind of gotten used to the PJ though. (But, yeah, it just looks real cheap ...)
     
  44. Kirko

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    after ten days >>>>>>>

    with my own KBT. I'm still impressed. I love the feel when the ball comes off the strings, kind of like the old wilson ultra II. not muted to me more solid like the ultra II. the KBT has very lush sweet-spot more so than the new head prestige which is a fine racket. the deal killer on the new prestige was the "muted" feel and the head grip. the wilson grip is the best for me, that is someone who uses orthodox eastern grips and hits hard and flat shots. the quality of the KBT also reminds me of the old ultra II very nice paint scheme. unique but reserved (almost all black). not like other frames that look like a tie-dyed tee-shirt.
     
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    I'm switching to the KBlade Tour from my old Volkl DNX9, can I join?
     
  46. thejuice

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    ^^^

    Chu-got-it-main!!!

    :):):)
     
  47. Vin2

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    i don't have wally's set up... i put it all the way from 2-4 and 8-10 o'clock positions... none at 12. This would not make the sweet spot too much up the frame...

    Works like a charm: serve is now much more solid, produced heavier groundies and it is a lot more stable now.
     
  48. Safin777

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    If someone has it with the KBT and the prestige MG Mid can tell wich of the two is more HL in balance? On tennis magazine website KBT is listed at 31.08 cm but on the throat is written 31,5 cm instead the Prestige is listed at 32 cm at tennis.com but on the thorat is 31 cm. Can someone clarify me this odd? Thanks
     
  49. In)SpiRe

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    I should be able to join this club soon. My pro shop is taking a little longer than I would like to get my KBT to me....

    Also, I've heard that many KBT users dislike it when they do a hybrid with poly mains[is this true?]


    So I'm thinking abt doing M:pSGD/X:Cyberflash @ 57/55 or visa versa[still doing same tensions on mains and crosses if I decide to put the poly in the mains and synth gut in the crosses].
     
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  50. Vin2

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    Ask your proshop to measure it... each racquet are different & none of them really match the written specs 100%
     

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