Ohio State Tennis scared to play outdoors?

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  1. nocab

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    Ohio State was supposed to play Baylor today and 30 minutes prior to the match the OSU coach emailed Baylor's coach and the ITA officials that his team will not play because it was below 50 degrees outside. I had some friends who went to the match and they told me the weather felt great and most of the fans were wearing shorts and tshirts. They spoke to Baylor's coach and he said that his teammates text messaged some of the OSU players once they heard the news and their coach hadn't even informed them yet!

    The worst part was OSU had been in Waco for 3 days and their team actually practiced on the courts in the morning.

    Some info here:

    http://www.baylorbears.com/sports/m-tennis/spec-rel/022410aad.html
     
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  2. duusoo

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    Ty Tucker made the call. Enough said. He is an outstanding coach, and I doubt it was a surprise to the team. That isn't his character at all. Has to more to the story.
     
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  3. nocab

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    OSU's tennis site says they canceled for weather related issues.

    http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/Vi...3&SPID=10415&DB_OEM_ID=17300&ATCLID=204894902

    I live an hour from Waco and I had friends who went to the match. Where I live the weather was perfect, no wind, no rain and lot's of sun. When I called my friends they said they were sitting at the courts burning up. They told me that if it was below 50 then it was 49 but felt like 60 and there wasn't any wind. They spoke to Baylor's coach and he informed them that OSU's coach sent an email to him and didn't bother to call or contact him in person. Like I said earlier OSU had been in Waco for 3 days and practiced the morning of the match at the courts.

    I don't know much about Ty Tucker but that sounds pretty pathetic to me.

    There has to be another reason he didn't want to play.
     
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  4. atatu

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    Agreed, that is really weak...if the weather was anything like it was here in Austin it was actually a great day for tennis.
     
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  5. duusoo

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    It wasn't because he thought Baylor would beat them.
     
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  6. atatu

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    Who cares ? It was a bad decision and as a result we have disappointed fans who took the time to go out there and see college tennis. What he did was bad for college tennis.
     
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  8. EP1998

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    IMO if he did cancel due to weather, good for him because it is not good for players to be playing in the cold. Especially with poly strings lol. So many college coaches are not as concerned with the long term health of their players as they should be - which is why a lot of our guys cant do anything on the pro tour but dont get me started on that. I feel bad for the fans but it wouldnt have been good for the Baylor players either.
     
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    so if you follow the link, it looks like the whole thing was badly planned!
    Baylor obviously should have had a plan and Ohio State were not prepared to play. Sounds like a huge breakdown in communication between the coaches, if they are only e-mailing each other then there is a real problem.
    Sad for college tennis.
     
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    Ohio State is currently ranked 2nd in the country. Baylor is 7, but I doubt that OSU was afraid to play them.
     
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  11. eeytennis

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    I could understand this decision if it were in the 30s because playing in weather that cold most certainly increases the risk for injury (and coming from upstate NY believe me, I know), but if it were high 40s...this was an unnecessary call. Especially because it was such a high profile match and people were waiting to watch it.
     
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  12. papatenis

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    I would guess that most of the players on both teams have played in 30-40ish weather during their junior years.
    At the Winter Supernational's, thats how cold it is when they play their 8am matches...
     
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  13. chrisplchs

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    by people, you mean 9 people were there. yeap, I counted every one of them.

    the weather was clean but 40s which is below the ITA standards. Also, it was impossible for Ohio State to practice as it was snowing the day before and below 40 the morning off

    Baylor's coach did not think about the necessity for a backup plan in case such weather might happen
     
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    Supposedly OSU practiced somewhere on Tuesday when it was snowing, maybe nearby indoor courts that couldn't house a full match but sufficient for practice. They also practiced the morning of the match at the Baylor courts.

    Baylor ended up playing a scrimmage match for the fans that attended and they were wearing tshirts and shorts and didn't look cold at all. I'm not sure how many fans attended but my friends went in a group of 8 from the Ohio State Alumni association in Austin so if you only counted 9 then it must have been them and you.
     
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    Thats a shame as Ohio State are so ethical in every other sport
     
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  16. duusoo

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    Ohio State is absolutely ethical and cleaner than any school, and I mean any school. Look at the Ivy League with Hockey, that is dirty! They are in the cross hairs all the time, everyone would like to pull them down, but their standards are so high. Don't go here! Way too much on the line.
     
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  17. atatu

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    Except for when that teaching assistant told the NY Times that Maurice Clarett had received preferential treatment from a professor...
     
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  18. kingdaddy41788

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    False - at least not football.

    False - at least not football.

    True.
     
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  19. ClarkC

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    Baylor has no indoor facility, there is no indoor tennis club in Waco, therefore the Baylor coach cannot have a backup plan. They have to forecast the weather in advance and make cancellation decisions as early as possible. That's all they can do.
     
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  20. Tennis_Crazed

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    Is there a rule about being able to cancel tennis matches? If top players on a team are injured, unethical coaches can cancel if there is flexibility to do so
     
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    I hope that in no way are you implying that Ty Tucker is unethical. That isn't true!
     
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  22. ocdavep

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    I played in Columbus, OH both yesterday and today outside. It was 38 last night and 44 today... I assume TX weather was fine to play in...
     
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  23. Ronaldo

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    Where does Baylor practice when it is really cold or snowy? Ocdavep, lucky, 48 degrees here but still have a foot of snow on the courts.
     
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  24. Lindsay

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    They go to ennis, tx when they go indoors. It's a drive, but not too bad. Back in 99-2000 they called my club in Sherman, tx to use for a match because they couldn't get on anywhere in ennis or Dallas. We had to tell them we only had 2 indoors, so they either went elsewhere or cancelled.
     
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  25. Ronaldo

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    Ty Lindsay. Lucky to have 4 clubs with a total of 27 indoor cts here but we are in Ohio.
     
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  26. ocdavep

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    ronaldo, the snow was melted entirely on the court i played on today. the wall i hit on yesterday.... let's just say i left about 6 balls behind haha
     
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  27. Tennis_Crazed

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    No not saying that about him. Just saying that it could be used unethically by anyone
     
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    Yeah right, their football HC is shady and everybody knows it.
     
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    Give it up. This is the cleanest school in the NCAA. They have to be, there isn't a coach in the Big 10 or MACC that if they could wouldn't turn OSU in. With the stuff that is coming out in Michigan don't you think they would just love to drop a load on the Buckeyes, for anything. It hsn't happened and it won't!
     
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    Who knows what is going on at these colleges..especially when there is so much on the line for the schools financially assuming they do well. Maybe not fully unethical, but i'm sure they're ALL walking a very thin line
     
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  31. 1540tennis

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    Boy I hope that this is sarcasm... Jim Tressel is said to be one of the most devout Christian coaches in the NCAA... I have never heard any news of bad ethical standards by him....

    For the Maurice Clarrett situation to be brought up is unfair. He is one player and that was one professor at the largest school in the US... It would make no sense to claim that the entire school is unethical with so many students and faculty. And also because of that same reason it does not make sense to say that they are without infractions... IMHO

    GO BUCKS!
     
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  32. AlexTennisAllDayLong

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    fk playing when its under 50...its nothing like tennis. I don't blame em.
     
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  33. Dawgie Dawg

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    They are. Ohio State players get scared outside. they are always high ranked but would be about 25 if they played in the SEC
     
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    hahahahaha...thanks for bumping this thread.

    Hilarious to read these guys and their ignorance before OSU got their doors blown off.

    Lol.
     
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    ITA rules?

    Determining playable outdoor weather conditions
    i. The projected weather forecast, for a minimum of two
    hours out of a four-hour time period from the start of the
    match, according to www.weather.com shall be:
    • A high of at least 50°; or
    • Sustained winds (not including wind gusts) of 20 miles
    per hour or less.
     
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  36. Dawgie Dawg

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    whats that poppycock?
     
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  37. Aobanoniji

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    Thanks for the biggest chuckle of my day.
     
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  38. Jakes On A Plane

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    They are 10-0 vs. the SEC in the past 4 seasons...Philosophy teachers must have a field day with you.
     
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    Will the heat kill the Buckeyes in the later rounds?
     
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