Oldest racket on tour

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  1. OHBH

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    Out of all the paintjobs and cover ups on the tour these days, which pro player is currently using the oldest and most outdated racket? I know Rajeev Ram was using the Wilson prostaff 85 for awhile but not anymore. Are there any pre-2000 rackets on tour these days? just curious.
     
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    i was thinking about federer's old prostaff tour 90.
     
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  3. BreakPoint

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    I'd bet there are some pros still using the POG underneath their paintjobs, which dates back to circa 1979.
     
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    That is 34 year old racket.
    Assuming the Pro started playing at the age of 5 -- do we really see any 40-year old pros (or "some of them")?

    Pros usually use the racket they feel comfortable playing with, not the one their favorite player uses...
     
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    Rochus (some prince tour) and Malisse (diablo) are using "old" non-paintjob rackets. There are a few who use the prestige classic I think.
     
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    :)Are you being facetious? Has anyone else seen the racket, with its trademark stabilizer crossbar on the current ATP/WTA Tours?
    Is the frame imbued with a Doctor Who-style Chameleon circuit that cloaks the crossbar, blending it into its surroundings to make it look like, say, a Pure Drive?

    Maybe Xavier Malisse or Olivier Rochus with their Princes? Is the crossbar being Chameleonized in their cases?
     
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    Olivier Rochus plays with that prince I think...
     
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    Not a case of old racquet user, but i find this one an interesting example for us all:

    Lukas Dlouhy uses a sub 10 ounces frame (pacific x force lite) and is still a current top 50 doubles at age 29.

    Just a fun fact
     
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  9. vsbabolat

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  11. MAXXply

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    Hey VSBabolat (or anyone else)

    Is the pro stock process/procedure for not-so-famous pros like Haase simply a matter of the player meeting say, the HEAD Pro Room guy, having coffee and discussing Robin's frame needs?

    Or is it a much more extensive and convoluted process involving Haase's agent/management, multi-session bespoke fittings involving lots of HEAD technicians?
     
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    What is a "Dr. Who"?
     
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    Baghdatis' frame dates back to the early 90s as the Fischer VT 98 was used by Kafelnikov. Not sure which model Baghdatis uses, though.
     
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    What about anyone using a pre cortex pure drive?
     
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  16. BreakPoint

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    Are you suggesting that no pro would be comfortable playing with a POG?
    Why does a pro need to be 40 years old to play with the POG? :confused: Why can't a 25 year-old pro use it? The POG has been available throughout the past 34 years so anyone could have started using it at anytime during those 34 years. Why does a pro have to have started using a racquet when it first came out? Most pros use older racquets and not the latest racquet that comes out. There are/were some pros who used the PC600 or PT630 underneath their paintjobs and those racquets first came out before they were born or when they were very young so it wasn't their first racquet but they switched to it later on. There's no reason a pro can't switch to a racquet that's been available for many years as long as they can still get them. Heck, even Sampras didn't switch to the PS 6.0 85 until many years after it came out.
     
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    Wasn't Spadea using a POG?
     
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  18. BreakPoint

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    Nope, not "chameleonized" at all.

    Here's Rochus from 2012:

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    Looks like he's still using the old TT Graphite paintjob over his POG or Chang Graphite (which is essentially an extended length POG).
     
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  19. vsbabolat

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    To my knowledge nobody in the top 200 currently is using a POG.
     
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    Philippoussis uses the PC600 without a doubt.
     
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  21. vsbabolat

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    That's a different mold, head size, head shape, and beam design than the POG Mid or Oversize. Rochus is using the MC Graphite Midplus which is 95sq.in. It came out in 1996.
    Now Chang used a POG Oversize that was a inch long with a Paint Job of the Michael Chang Graphite. Chang never really used his namesake racquet........
     
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  22. BreakPoint

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    Yes, he was:


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    I even suggested the name for his book: :wink:


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    IIRC, R.Federer plays with a custom stick made to his own specs; and said stick is the one the models he endorses are based on. Hence the general consensus that he still plays with a K-Factor Pro Staff.

    Back on the topic, Alexandr Dolgopolov plays with a Wilson Pro Staff 6.0 95 Original MidPlus under the paint.
     
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  24. vsbabolat

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    Yup, Dolgopolov's plays with the Pro Staff 6.0 95 and that came out in 1994.
     
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    Did those not come out the same era as the 85?
     
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    Nadal is using the first APD, from 2005 I believe.
     
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    That's most likely right, I know he has an old "off the shelf" racquet. But that's also far, far from being the oldest on the tour...
     
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  28. vsbabolat

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    No, The 95 did not come out at the same era. At first you only had the 85 and 110. Then in about 1986 you had the 125. It was not until 1994 that the Pro Staff 6.0 95.
     
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    That is correct. The 95 didn't come out until Wilson moved all ProStaff production to China in 1994. That's why there are no Chicago, St. Vincent, nor Taiwan versions of the 95, but only China versions. But of course, the 85 has all of those versions. The 110 was actually the first ProStaff and preceded the 85. I think the 110 was meant to compete with the POG Oversize which was already a big hit in the market.
     
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    So is the post #21 above ;)
     
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    I think as far as you can see the actual frame he's playing with it would probably have to be Rochus .
     
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    The 6.1 95 (and its brother the 4.2) came out a long time ago and a ton of guys use it or its descendants.
    Anyone remember when it first came out?
     
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  33. BreakPoint

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    The ProStaff 6.1 Classic 95 came out in 1991.

    I think Del Potro may still be using it underneath his K-Factor 95 paintjob.
     
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  34. BreakPoint

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    Also Mardy Fish is likely still using a PS 6.1 Classic underneath his latest paintjob.
     
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    So the oldest are Rochus'/Spadea's versions of the POG, then Prestige Classic (1986), then 6.1 95 (1991)?
     
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  36. フェデラー

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    Pretty sure Dogopolov is also using a PS Original 95 as well under a PJ. Pretty obvious since there was no box beam BLX (aside from the Tour 90), and it said 6.1 tour but it's clearly a 95.

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    Also used a box beam kfactor 95

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    Yes, we've known that Dolgopolov has used a PS 6.0 95 Original underneath his various paintjobs for a while. However, the PS 6.0 95 Original is NOT the same racquet as the PS 6.1 95 Classic - far from it. The former has a box beam, is very low powered, flexy, swings very light, and is in the same family as the PS 6.0 85, whereas, the latter has a wide oval beam, is powerful, very stiff, swings much heavier, and is in the same family as the HPS 6.1 95, nCode 95, K95, etc.

    Other pros like Muller and Mahut also used the PS 6.0 95 Original under their paintjobs. Mahut has since switched to some custom racquet (may be based on the Blade series), and I'm not sure if Muller is still using the PS 6.0 95.
     
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  38. vsbabolat

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    Rochus' Michael Chang Graphite 95 came out in 1996. It's a completely different mold to the POG mid and oversize.
     
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    At one point Mahut also used the PS 6.0 85. Muller is using the Blade 93.
     
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  40. NLBwell

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    So, depending upon whether you think Spadea is completely retired, the oldest model on tour would be the Prestige?
     
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  41. vsbabolat

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    Spadea is 38 years old going to be 39 in July. He is completely retired.
     
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    I have a Spadea instructional dvd in which he is using a Donnay Gold (I think, haven't watched it recently).
     
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  43. NLBwell

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    I thought he was thinking of coming back.
     
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    I think cedric pioline was using a prince magnesium pro up until a couple of years ago.
     
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  45. vsbabolat

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    Pioline is long retired. He Retired in 2002. When he was playing he had switched from the Magnesium Pro 90 in 1996 to the HEAD Radical Tour TwinTube 630. Then in 1999 He switched to Dunlop.
     
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    whatever hewitt's got under the current pj has got to have some years on it too. i hope some hewitt fan will chime in with exactly what it is and when it first appeared.
     
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  47. vsbabolat

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    I hate to disappoint but he is using the Vcore 95D
     
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    Feds 90 design has been around for 30 years.
     
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    Wait, what?
     
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    Is this racquet available today?

    Is this is a custom built racquet for the pro's or is it available for purchase by the public?
     
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