Opponent says I "bounce the ball too much"

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  1. Bdarb

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    Or it's all in his head and he's not thinking about serving, he's thinking about bouncing the ball..
     
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  2. IA-SteveB

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    I'd have to agree. Sometimes I bounce twice, sometimes once, sometimes not at all. Consistency in my serve is entirely about the contact point and that is where my focus is. It isn't about all of the pre-serve gyrations. :)
     
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  3. Cindysphinx

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    Spoken like a guy who has never had the toss yips. :)

    Regarding the idea that 8 bounces made more DFs . . . Well, yeah. Of course.

    You cannot just decide to change an element of your game on the fly like that. If you want to change your service routine, you have to practice it, like anything else. It would probably only take a few practice serving sessions and one practice match to ingrain a new routine.

    Just think. If you can go from 11 bounces to 3 per serve, this would save you 2,395,861,777* bounces over the course of your tennis career.

    *Estimate.
     
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  4. IA-SteveB

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    Hence the bold type on the word my. :) Not trying to apply the way I play to anyone else. Just saying.
     
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  5. TimeSpiral

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    Absurd. :twisted:

    ((11 bounces * avg 56 serves per match) * 2 matches per week) * 20 more years of playing = 24, 640.

    To bounce the ball 2.3 billion times, if each bounce lasted one second, you'd have to bounce that tennis ball non-stop, 24 hours per day, for 73 years.
     
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  6. Cindysphinx

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    Eleven bounces probably feels like 73 years to your opponent. :)
     
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  7. jmjmkim

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    Too much. I agree.
     
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  8. Alex78

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    It all eventually comes down to if you wanna be a bouncer or a tennis player...
     
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    That means that there are 2,395,861,777/8 = 299482722.125 serves over a tennis career. Since the number of serves cannot be a fraction, the number cannot be right.
     
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  10. Bdarb

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    haha well played.
     
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  11. Cindysphinx

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    Each caught toss counts for .42 of a serve. Duh.
     
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  12. struggle

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    i only bounce a couple times, a few at most.

    that way when i dribble it off my foot or yip a toss i don't
    feel like i've "already been dikkiing around for 20 seconds"



    edit: what do you do in the event of a bad toss? another "ours goes to eleven"?
     
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  13. TimeSpiral

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    I bounce the ball 4.2 times as part of my pre sports-drink-drink routine. My pre serve routine looks something like this ...
     
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  14. goran_ace

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    If an opponent ever told me that I bounce the ball too much I'd throw in an extra bounce or two every point just to mess with him. Some people seem to be looking for excuses all around them.

    Yeah, your pre-serve routine probably could use some streamlining, but it takes time to change a habit and as long as you're within reasonable range of the time limit go ahead and do it if you want.
     
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  15. SwankPeRFection

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    14 bounces is too damn much Djokovic! What's to clear? Some players just don't like delay tactics like that because they like to play at a normal pace and anyone that comes on court doing stupid **** like you are doing automatically means to them that you're trying to mess with their heads. Just like I don't particularly like players who do nothing but lob like they work for NASA on a moon mission, I don't like players who do stupid **** like bounce the ball 50 billion times just to double fault anyway or drop things on the court like hats, towels, etc. in plain view just to mess with you and try to get under your skin to win. In situations like that, I don't even bother playing with you... I'll find another match where the other player doesn't resort to stupid tactics to try and win. I think I'm going to get myself a bumper sticker that says... "Play the game, NOT gamesmanship!"
     
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  16. arche3

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    Lob like NASA... lmao. Like this
     
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  17. leroy_sunset

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    I probably drop a toss once in every 5 matches. Very, very rarely.
     
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  18. beernutz

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    I think the question was, do you go through your entire 11 bounce pre-serve routine in the event that you make a bad toss? It doesn't even have to be a dropped toss, just any toss that you decide not to play.
     
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  19. RetroSpin

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    My thoughts exactly.

    If you have a psychological issue like OCD that requires an annoying ritual like 14 bounces, get it treated. Otherwise, quit being a jerk.
     
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  20. struggle

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    I love it when people ask for "advice" and then refute everything that's suggested.
     
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  21. leroy_sunset

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    No. 10chars.
     
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  22. leroy_sunset

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    I do not recall asking for advice. It was more of a question about opponents calling a time violation, which I am pretty sure they can't do. Mostly just trolling at this point, which is basically the purpose of TT. Tom knows what I'm talking about.
     
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  23. struggle

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    right on then. troll away.
     
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  24. coloskier

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    Hey, if Djokovic can get away with it..........
     
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  25. ZnGuy

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    IT IS ANNOYING. I have an opponent that I count 11-12 bounces and no way it is within 20 seconds. I equate it to slow golfers, f*cks up the game. I'd make changes to your serve.
     
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  26. paul500w

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    Just my opinion but maybe it would be better for you to speed it up a little. Maybe you are thinking too much.
     
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  27. RetroSpin

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    You do this crap to me, and I'll start footfaulting, since you can't call that on me either.

    If you retaliate by FFing on me, I'll start returning your out serves and not say anything until I see if my return is in or not.

    Just remember, one person cannot hold a court. You can take that to your momma's house, but Cindysphinx may already be there.
     
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  28. IA-SteveB

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    ^^ Now that's funny stuff.
     
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    Ttw has many epic memes. Great summary.
     
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  30. SeriousSummer

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    I'm old. I don't have that much life to waste, so I wouldn't play socially with someone who bounced the ball that many times. Most the people I play with don't even bother to bounce it at all, just hit the ball and play.
     
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  31. newpball

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    I would not worry about it, a typical case of "not my problem"!

    Actually the more your opponent is worried about it the more he will be distracted. :)

    As long as you do not do it on purpose to distract your opponent and the time is reasonable you are doing the right thing! Play your game and let your opponent worry about all kind of things. Again, not your problem!
     
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  32. Sakkijarvi

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    Ach, with that kind of annoying habit -- you'll see guys across the net during league or ladder play ... but don't expect to be added to their list of players for pick-up matches even if you get a wave of approving posts here...
     
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  33. degrease

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    Bouncing loads doesnt actually help. Look at sampras..one bounce
     
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  34. jussumman

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    Do you really need to bounce the ball that many times? Seems unreasonable and I would be kinda annoyed by it too if you did that on every serve. I bounce the ball 1 time and ready to go.
     
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  35. hrstrat57

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    Zero bounce here.

    That's right zero.
     
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  36. LeeD

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    3 bounces for me, and that's enough torture for both me and the reciever.
     
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  37. hrstrat57

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    I think I need to start a zero service bounce club!
     
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  38. Bdarb

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    That would feel bizarre. I'm almost always 2 for the first three for the second. Sometimes one if I'm hustling but none? Seems odd haha
     
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  39. LeeD

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    3 bounces plus 3 rocks after the bounces.
     
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  40. hrstrat57

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    Try it, simplifies everything. Watch johnny mac, skip the weird rock.....or not whatever works.....
     
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  41. LeeD

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    Quite often, when I don't care, I don't rock and don't bounce. The serve is OK, like in my video.
    When it counts, I rock 3 times and bounce 3. The serve is more accurate, more powerful, and goes in without much effort on my part. Even the misses are close.
     
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  42. arche3

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    It is important to be ocd for tennis. :beer:
     
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  43. Fintft

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    2 bounces, 2 rocks after the bounces, but also, sometimes also 2-4 tosses...

    Towards the end of the set (after I'm warmed up) it usually becomes one toss (with proper knee bend and flow) though.
     
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  44. SCRAP IRON

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    That wouldn't bother me at all. I faced the polar opposite. The server announces the score and in a split second serves the ball. Many times my feet aren't even set!
     
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  45. newpball

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    Do you really need to bounce the ball a few times?

    If the answer is yes then where does 'a few' become 'many'?
     
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  46. LanEvo

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    That's all for you? I only need two, and that is my routine for every point when I serve. I mean having played diff. people, I understand when some people bounce alot and it gets annoying, but I just think of it as a time for me to catch my breath and prep up for the return and how to play the point. I only do two bounces because it is what I am used to, so dont let it bother you no matter how many bounces there are.

    The thing that ticks me off is because I do two bounces, I am usually waiting for the opponent to get ready after every point.
     
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  47. Fintft

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    Oh, what I hate even more is when they serve the second serve a second after the first one is out...I need some time to adjust not only my position but my bearings (I don't see too well).
     
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  48. LeeD

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    Hold up your hand after the missed first serve.
    By tennis rules, the reciever is allowed time to reset and reposition before facing a second serve.
     
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  49. Fintft

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    ^^^^
    Yeah and (with one glaring exception) everyone agrees to that.
     
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  50. jussumman

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    Marion Bartoli won Wimbledon with zero bounce. Yes folks. It's not the number of times you bounce the ball, it's where the ball bounces on the other side of the net. I say both zero bounce and 11 bounce are freaky but if given a choice, zero bounce. I'm sure if you got into a routine of some 10plus bounces, you could get into a routine with less.

    Or maybe it is too late. This pre server routine thing becomes a nervous tick of sorts, Nadal does the same butt picking and then touching his right then left ears and face. I doubt he'll change that ever, so important to get a routine that is not so dramatic and just weird I think from the beginning. Rusedski used to untie his shoe laces and tie them again before a serve (with his back facing the opponent, not sure how he knew where his spin cycle serve will end up). Freakish nervous disorder. Hard to watch as a spectator.
     
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