Oren Motevassel

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  1. thanu

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    I've been reading up about Oren Motevassel, mainly because he uses a racquet that I really like (Prince Diablo XP OS), but has his customized to 400 grams (he told me this when I emailed him). I would really like to see him play since he plays an unusual game from what everyone has said. I could only find one video of him on youtube:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36RQJInjf4o

    Does anybody have anymore vids?
     
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  2. supersmash

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    Dude. Does. Not. Miss.

    If you consider Gilles Simon to be the poorman's Andy Murray....

    This guy is practically free.
     
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  3. drakulie

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    saw him play quite a few matches 2 years ago at the National Clay Court Championships. He beat Andy Lake in the finals. I think I may have some photos and vids. (will try and post them tonight for you If I have them).

    He was driving Lake crazy. In the end of the match, he was literally lollipopping his serve in and winning his serve easily. LOL

    He gets absolutely everything back deep, pushes, slices, drives opponents crazy. When necessary, he hits the tar out of the ball to end a point quickly. He is super quick around the court, has crazy good court coverage, and is rarely in a defensive position, or out of position.

    He was taking Lakes serve (which is well over 120) from inside the baseline.

    and yes, he was playing with the diablo OS.
     
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    I've hit with him before, He played a tournament at the country club I worked at. Very talented player, funny guy too. He can do anything he wants with the ball, easily the most talented player I've ever hit with.
     
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  6. thanu

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    Drakulie, were you able to find some vids/pics?

    Nice picture Atatu. I don't see the lead tape on his racquet though. I wonder if it's just a bad angle (to see the lead).
     
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  7. paulfreda

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    I thought he retired 4 years ago.
    I guess I must be wrong.

    He is the cousin of a close friend of mine in Florida.
    I will check on what the latest scoop is with him.
     
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  8. toddrobert38

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    c'mon...

    this is the PRO PLAYER forum. We might as well start discussing my game in here.

    Get this outta here. Back to "Adult tournaments"
     
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  9. paulfreda

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    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh ....... I see.

    So then you were a top 200 player in the world for more than 10 years too ?? You must be quite a player.
     
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  10. toddrobert38

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    so does this mean we're going to discuss every chucklehead with an ATP point now? I mean where do you draw the line?

    i said "we may as well discuss my game", not we "should".
     
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  11. paulfreda

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    Might I suggest .....
    If you don't like what you see on your TV, you can always change the channel.
    Similarly ...
    If you think a thread is pointless and of no value ..... don't click on it.

    Fair enough ?
     
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    You must not understand how hard it is to get just one ATP point. Anyone good enough to get a ranking is good enough to be discussed. I think its nice to see threads that arent about Fed or Nadal for once.
     
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  13. drakulie

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    thanu, unfortunately, I no longer have the photos/vids. Sorry! :(
     
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  14. Topaz

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    If you had any clue to who Oren is and how he plays and what he has accomplished, you wouldn't even think to make these types of comments.
     
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  15. toddrobert38

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    It's called MISCATEGORIZED. If we went by that there would be no order.

    "That would never happen with Italians. Greater than any one man's life, is ORDER" -American Gangster

    It's not that hard to get a point if you're willing to play Nairobi F1. lol

    Pro Player Forums should pertain to guys we know from PRO tennis (TV) , not USPTA money tournaments--- even if they had a few points and made main draw at a slam once in their life. Woopeee. You know how many guys I know that did that? A lot.
     
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  16. toddrobert38

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    And you're "Hall of Fame" around here??? OMG
     
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  17. Topaz

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    I had the opportunity to see Oren play live in FL (clay court 30s) as well. Sorry OP, can't help you on the racquet specs and lead tape.

    The guy is *small* and like others said...he just doesn't ever miss. I've seen Andy Lake play in person too, and it was almost inconceivable to me that Oren beat him. Wish there were more vids to watch...it would be eye opening for many.
     
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  18. Topaz

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    And you? Since you are so dismissive of Oren, would you like to enlighten the rest of us as to who you are and what you have accomplished, and what gives you the idea that you can be so rude to others?
     
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    I've been interested in catching him at a tournament. Heard that he is
    somehow able to not hit hard and beat a lot of people.
     
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  20. onehandbh

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    I heard there was this 3.5 named tott dobert that saw him hitting against the
    wall and challenged him, thinking he'd be able to overpower him. did not win a point.
     
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  21. toddrobert38

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    Haha. You're hilarious. Wrong, but hilarious.

    No. I wouldn't. And if people wouldn't ASSUME things (like me not having a clue) then I wouldn't laugh at their user status. What else did I say that was rude? It was all true.
     
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  22. Topaz

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    Don't insult 3.5s like that.

    Your comments would lead one to believe that you don't know much about Oren. And why would you reply by laughing at anyone's user status if not to be rude? Instead of offering any valuable insight, observations or comments, you mocked and scolded. Speaks for itself right there.

    You might have better luck in rants and raves.

    You have the power of choice...if you don't like the thread, don't read it. If you think it is in the wrong section, you can say so without sounding like a tool. Again, your choice.
     
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  23. toddrobert38

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    Obviously you are the one who's rude. I know plenty about him and that he is not what I consider worthy of the PRO PLAYER forum. Why don't you go worship him in the adult tournaments area so you can really pay homage to his amazing skill in $500 cash prize tourneys.

    The last guy who called me a 3.5 had a nice raspberry in the middle of his back before the 2nd set was over. LOL

    You guys crack me up.
     
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  24. FD3S

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    He's not a world beater, I agree. Still, he's well within the scope of this forum's target discussion group, seeing as how he's not a one ATP point wonder, either.
     
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  25. toddrobert38

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    But where is the line drawn is my point. I would think because you can't go by ATP points for obvious reasons, it should be exposure. I mean does anyone here actually know this guy from a televised match or slam result?

    They only know him because he plays little money tournaments all over the country. To me, that means it belongs in Adult Tournaments. Not "PRO PLAYER" discussion.
     
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  26. svijk

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    WHO IS THIS DUDE? why are we discussing him HERE......agree w Todd
     
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  27. toddrobert38

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    LMAO That's hilarious
     
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    I saw Oren play here in Charlotte, maybe 5 years ago, he destroyed everybody in the open draw and took the money home easily. He is very small, with an OK serve, but I swear he glides to the ball with zero effort, and hits everything within six inches of the baseline. It's a war of attrition and the guy doesn't miss.
     
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  29. toddrobert38

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    that's NOT PRO TENNIS!
     
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  30. thanu

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    The reason I put this in the pro section is because to me a professional is someone who is making money. Someone who plays college sports is not a professional, but someone who plays in the minor leagues (example: in baseball single a, AA, AAA) are being paid to play the sport. Oren is making his living through tennis by winning these tournaments. If you look up "professional" athlete on the web here is the definition: "Professional sports, as opposed to amateur sports, are those in which athletes receive payment for their performance."


    -Thanu
     
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  31. toddrobert38

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    that's why I said... where do you draw the line? and also, we might as well discuss my game here. It's a ridiculous segue from discussing Nadal or even someone in and out of ATP main draws to a guy who is playing USTA prize money tourneys.

    He definitely has game but I can't say this is the right forum. Money can mean 500 dollars or 5 million. Big difference don't you think?

    Do you really believe the spirit of this forum is to discuss a guy making 500 or a thousand here and there?
     
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  32. advantagetennis1

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    oren got up to about 160 and still plays money tournaments allover. If you dont consider 160 atp professional your an idiot. with one point you are an atp professional. Anyone that has had to win matches in qualifying at a futures and won a match in the md without the other person retiring or defaulting is a good player and yes hes pro. 160 atp is ridiculous man. im a senior in hs and iv dedicated alot of my completley to tennis. I live at a yr round tennis academy and homeschool its my dream to have a career like orens and i play all the 18s supernationals including easterbowl. tennis is tough man, show people like oren respect cause he deserves it.
     
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  33. advantagetennis1

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    by your definition of a tennis pro (someone you see on tv lol) you really have no clue what this sport takes and have probably not been around it for long at all. thats just the bottom line.
     
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  34. toddrobert38

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    LOL. ok junior. whatever.

    For the purposes of this board I think exposure is a better criteria than an few ATP points and playing money tournaments is not the same as discussing the pro's now paying the main tour.

    You know there is a difference between the main tour and the levels below that, right? Or am I talking to a 12 y.o.
     
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  35. Max G.

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    The line is drawn where the forum says it is - PRO players (i.e. those who make money playing tennis) are open for discussion.

    You can.

    And, if you'd read the thread, he obviously has enough exposure - quite a few people have mentioned knowing of him, seeing him, and liking his game.
     
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  36. toddrobert38

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    Playing USTA money tournaments and qualifying for main draw ATP events is quite different in my mind.

    Maybe you don't see the difference, but I do
     
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  37. advantagetennis1

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    i think you might be the 12 y.o because obviously you haven't gone to school long enough to understand that a senior in highschool isnt 12 years old. You just keep showing your ignorance over and over again to be 160 in the world you would have to have around 320 points, thats a little more then a few.
     
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  38. advantagetennis1

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    show us your ranking and your results. are you an idiot? oren was 160 in the world that would have made him a seed in slam qualies and he would have been accepted in the md at lots of atp tournaments.
     
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  39. toddrobert38

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    Big deal. Nobody knows him from tour play. They just know him from money tournaments (small time)

    Oh your a senior in HS? Wow, was i WAy off. LOL
     
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  40. advantagetennis1

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    yea and i can promise you id give you less then 3 games in a match. do you know what supernational level is junior? i dont think you understand the different levels of the tennis game.
     
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  41. toddrobert38

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    Hey idiot. You are biting off more than you know. I'm sure your attitude will lead to many downfalls as your career progresses. But your too young and stupid to realize that yet.

    I eat Jr's for breakfast.
     
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  42. advantagetennis1

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    ah comon man listen to yourself. show us your results you have to be top 50 atp at least right? cause orens just a chump?
     
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  43. toddrobert38

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    you obviously can't read, or refuse to.

    I never said he was a chump. He's a tremendous player at the level he's at.

    What I said was this forum isn't really about that "I used to be low level ATP and now I play money tournaments" segment of players.

    I know a bundle of guys like that. I don't think it mixes well with tour player talk. My opinion. But I don't insult people until they insult me. I just voice my opinion. And I don't make on court claims based on nothing. I'll leave that for you to do.
     
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  44. advantagetennis1

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    your obviously having trouble reading cause this is the general pro player section and oren is a pro and im not making any claims based off of nothing i have results and a ranking but in your case i guess it is nothing.
     
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  45. drakulie

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    Yes.

    Here is the exit, momo:

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  46. toddrobert38

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    Well I don't think that is what the spirit of this forum is.

    And I have a ranking too, tool...

    Take your exit sign and stick where the sun don't shine ^ your A**
     
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  47. advantagetennis1

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    ya how futures have u qualied for? lets see your itf profile, and its not what you think or what you dont think anything is. An atp pro is anyone with a point, its not what your opinion of a pro is. This is general pro player discussion and someone with one point is a pro player... is there any other way i can word it so you understand? do you think you can comprehend that?
     
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  48. Topaz

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    I wouldn't waste anymore of your time here...he's clearly just being a troll after being away from the board for 3 years. Either that, or he *is* Oren and having a bit of fun. LOL

    Topaz, who is no longer 'Hall of Fame', but LEGEND
     
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  49. thanu

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    Wow, I never thought this thread would get so many replies. It's unfortunate that half of the posts were arguing about if this thread belongs here or not but you know what.. THAT IS THE MODERATOR'S JOB. It obviously belongs here since the thread wasn't taken down. Oren is a professional and making his living off tennis. He was once an ATP pro but now he's playing smaller tournaments and still making his living off of winning tennis matches.

    Todd, if you're an atp pro or making your living off of tennis, and want to post about yourself. GO AHEAD. lol This post is about Oren Motevassel. If you don't want to read it, then simply click "back" on your browser and read one of the many Nadal and Federer topics.
     
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  50. toddrobert38

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    That's why I posted an objection... so that a guideline would be set about who is this forum geared to. Making a living at tennis is an arbitrary thing. How much is enough? 118 dollars? A thousand? Which prize money counts? USPTA? lol Only ATP? So this forum could be the correct place to discuss a first round future match?

    Point is, is seems like it does not belong to me. Not because Motevassel or any other solid 6.0 player isn't worth discussing. It's because it doesn't fit well next to ATP main draw or even quali stuff. Maybe they should make more rooms. But if someone played one ATP event 10 years ago, but the discussion is about their present as a money tournament player,then the discussion goes to the Adult Tournament area in my mind. If the post is about that even ten years ago, then it stays in the ATP room. Maybe make one for Sat's and Challengers too.

    If you don't agree fine, w/e. It's your right to think how you want. The thing that is p*ss poor is the attitude of some of the jerks on here who act like they either own the forum, or are God's gift to tennis. I don't blame you for posting here, but it seems slightly out of place to me. I vote for new rooms to be created for the different levels. Maybe then people will post more often about some of the great players in the lower ranks, not wanting to put something about a satellite match next to a post about DelPotro.
     
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