Organix 10 325 Review

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  1. TennisMaverick

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    The string is split in half and started at the center mains. Once the mains are installed, the crosses are started in the middle of the frame with the remaining lengths of string. One half covers the top crosses and the other half covers the bottom crosses. Now that's a secret; don't let the shadows know!
     
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  2. samster

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    Ok, thanks TM!
     
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  3. TennisMaverick

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    How did it work out?
     
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  5. Hominator

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    The stupid snow storm interfered with my plans. Both clubs where I was going to hit were closed due to power outage. I just got back my power last night. Looks like I won't hit with it until this coming weekend.
     
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    Sorry to hear that. Trees fall on the power lines? I was actually supposed to head-out to Freehold to visit someone in the hospital, but squashed the trip due to the storm. Everyone always drives stupid during the first snow storm, as though they never saw one before, even though it was only 6 months or so ago.
     
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    Truer words could not have been said...I'm sure the guys in the office were wondering what in the heck I was laughing at.
     
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  8. TennisMaverick

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    If that happens where you are, than I have to give downstate NYers a break, as stupid as the situation is!
     
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    Don't ask me why but the same thing happens during the first real rainstorm in spring too...
     
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  10. richie65

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    I finally had an opportunity to hit the 325 and I came away very impressed. It is STABLE! Though I found it easy to whip around (lighter swingweight) it seemed to fight to keep from twisting. Also pretty comfortable even though mine is strung with full poly. My best description would be that it plays like the Tour 10 Gen2 without the flexy top and volleys better. As with all slightly lighter swingweighted Volkls I have the odd frame job on my 2hbh, but with wicked forehands.

    So after my initial look, thinking it was too fat.............it just seems to be dressed in unflattering clothing. I thought black was supposed to make fat chix look thinner.

     
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  11. sargeinaz

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    Thanks for the review. Interesting that people are commenting on it being pretty stable even with the lower swing weight. How's the power level? I need to demo this stick cause Im a 10 series fan. Will probably demo it when I'm back in Scottsdale.
     
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  12. TennisMaverick

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    It's CRAZY stable, due to the beam and head shape with the X. X resists twisting/torque, which is why the Volkl X Line plays stiffer than the BB DC Line, which resists bending.
     
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  13. Fuji

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    The power level is actually pretty high IMO! I found it to really bash the ball with a lot of pop, very similar to my APD, but without the need for a ridiculous swing path. I'm a fan, both with TM mods, and stock. Right now I'm hitting it stock, and I'm enjoying it. I just wish it had a different pallet! If it did I would more then likely switch to it full time!

    -Fuji
     
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    Fuji-

    Have you tried using athletic tape to mod the pallet? Super easy fix!
     
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  15. Hominator

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    + 1. I use 2 strips on each side of the wider bevels.
     
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  16. Fuji

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    I've been meaning too actually! I just need to get a new replacement grip to replace it with! :)

    Which type of "athletic tape" do you all use?

    -Fuji
     
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  17. nickarnold2000

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    Hey TM, I remember you saying that the crosses should be strung 2-4lbs looser than the mains on DC frames. Does it matter if the cross is poly, gut, syn gut or a multi? I'm pretty happy with my current set up below.
     
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  18. TennisMaverick

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    It doesn't matter. All you have to do is to adjust for the sting type/stiffness difference so that the crosses are looser than the mains in comparison.
     
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  19. Hominator

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    You can actually just re-use your replacement grip as it comes off quite cleanly. I use Johnson & Johnson athletic tape from CVS.
     
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  20. sphinx780

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    ^Same as Hominator...J&J but did use the generic target brand previously and it worked just as well.

    I use 2 strips on each side of the wide bevel as well. 4 strips will get you to a Wilson style grip, but for me the balance between the two worked best.
     
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  21. gregor.b

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    This racquet is awesome.It carves like a mid with the power level of an oversize (string choice is not even all that critical,it seems to like poly,syngut and gut.Didn't try multi but its' a safe bet it's good too).Most importantly,easy on the arm.Did I mention this is the second best volley racquet imo in history (behind the Melbourne) ?
     
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  22. Hominator

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    I've never volleyed better than with my X325. It really is a fantastic frame.
     
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  23. TennisMaverick

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    I totally agree!
     
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  24. Hominator

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    Had a chance to play with my X325 with Babolat Xcel 17 black. The string plays very nicely in this frame. Mine was strung at 53.5/50.

    That said, I think my favorite string in this frame is cheap synthetic gut. I have another frame strung with Head PPS Synthetic Gut 17, and the response is very crisp, offering tremendous bite.

    The other notable thing about this frame is that it accomodates low tension remarkably well, perhaps because the hoop is so firm. Synthetic gut at 44 lbs offers very nice ball pocketing in this frame. I've never gone that low with synthetic gut before, but it just plain works for me in this particular frame.
     
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  25. Pneumated1

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    The one I hit last night had some black, gear-shaped poly in it at, I would guess, mid tension. It still felt soft to me, but that string would have to go in this frame. And the grip shape is just undoable for me, coming from a modded Becker grip. On a few backhands (top and slice), I couldn't find my grip to save my life. I hit driving slices with some pretty nasty spin, and I was floating my slices like crazy with the 325. Adjusting to the frame and fixing the grip shape would fix that, I realize.

    Strangely enough, my modded London swings a little heavier than the 325, but the London had a sleeker feel through the air than the the 325, imo. But the precise response of the 325 was unexpected with what felt like a somewhat bigger headsize. I sensed that the heavy spin player or the flat/driving player could play well with the 325. I may keep one; you can sense its phenomenal potential, especially with maybe 2 grams of lead at 3/9, softer string, and modded handle.
     
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  26. TennisMaverick

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    Different strokes for......

    I strung mine to be played stock at a comparable 63M/60C with 16L Gripper. It felt tight at first, but this stick loosens string quickly, and it felt real solid for me. Then I loaded it to feel like my PB 10 Mid, and it is too loose. At 380 grams, I would restring it at 66/63.
     
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  27. Cesare

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    i strung my X today:Babolat vs tonic + 1,35 mains @ 63, Tecnifibre Xr3 1,30 @ 60 crosses. This is my custom: 8 grams(4 grams from 2 o'clock to 4 o'clock, the same on the other side) on the hoop, then 3 grams of injected silicone in the handle, Dunlop gecko overgrip, Gamma red-eye vibrastop. Total weight: 359 grams, balance 32,3. Can't wait to hit with, unfortunately the bad weather continues today..
     
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  28. Fuji

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    Thanks Hominator and Sphinx! I know what I'll be picking up tomorrow! :)

    -Fuji
     
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  29. Hominator

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    Cool, if you run into any problems, just let me know!
     
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    Here is TMs thread on grip mods if the two strip option that Hominator and I both use doesn't end up being your thing Fuji.
     
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  31. lstewart

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    Guys, has anyone experimented enough with the 325 yet to have a feel for how much you might need to back off the tension to adjust for how tight it strings up? I play the London, but picked up a 325 a couple of months ago and strung it at the same tension as I string the London. Felt very tight and harsh. Left the Volkl V-Pro poly at 56 in the mains, but replaced the crosses with Volkl Gripper at 60. Still feels very tight, but better. I'm thinking I might like the frame if I get the tension right. At this point I'm not getting nearly as much power as I get with the London, but I suspect most of that is due to the very tight string bed. Anyone experienced this and figured out how much to back off on the tension? It does play much tighter than the London at similar tensions.
     
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  32. TennisMaverick

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    IMPO, 5-7 lbs. Perhaps Hominator can give you some advice as well.
     
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  33. lstewart

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    Yeah, 5-7 lbs makes since. That sucker plays tight at my normal tension! I figure there is a magic number, just would rather not waste alot of string trying to find it. I've already strung it twice and it is still crazy tight.
     
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  34. Hominator

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    I like the frame strung in the low fifties To mid-forties.
     
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  35. lstewart

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    Definately seems to be a frame that can be strung on the lower end of the recommended tension. I think I'll try it again around 54/55, and then can ease down from there if necessary.
     
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  36. TennisMaverick

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    If you tried V-Pro poly at 56 in the mains and crosses with Volkl Gripper at 60, try 50M V-Pro/53C Gripper.
     
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  37. lstewart

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    Thanks Mav, that sounds like a nice set-up. The weather is getting cold and the balls are feeling pretty hard... these tight string jobs sure don't feel as good as they did at 90 degrees outside! I hit last night with my son with it 40 degrees and was hitting my loosest London, which felt way too powerful not long ago. The 10-325 might be a great frame to move to if I can play well at a low tension.
     
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  38. Pneumated1

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    lstewart, as a reference, I just strung my London with V-Pro mains at 55# and Max Comfort crosses at 58#. This is the best stringbed that I've hit in the London, but it remains to be seen whether or not the tension holds in the poly and the multi lasts even three-four hours. I could see going up another pound or two in both crosses/mains in that frame, but just let that be your guide as you consider the X-325.

    With that said, Maverick's advice should not be ignored: 50/53 for starters.
     
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  39. lstewart

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    Thanks Pneumated. I've been using the London with V-Pro mains in the 55-57 range, and have experimented with different crosses. Was using Head RIP Control in the 60 range. Right now I've got a couple of different Isospeed multis in the crosses at really high tensions. The Iso looses so much tension after a week that I just kept going up. It was feeling pretty good in warm weather, but isfeeling too tight now. Sounds like you and I string the London's at similar tensions. I've ordered a couple sets of the $15 Mamba gut, and am going to try it in the crosses with the V-Pro mains.
     
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  40. HIT MAN

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    I took your advice and went way down in tension 46/44 head pps strings ,
    ( never strung a volkl that low before !) and now we have some cupping
    going on with a totally new " feel" in this stiff as board string bed , any other
    feedback, may put it on a RDC machine for some numbers to crunch .Will see
    if it holds up against some hard hitters -
     
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  41. ZeroSkid

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    Can anyone compare this to the prince ex03 tour
     
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  42. TennisMaverick

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    The stiffer the head, the looser you string it for longer dwell time or more cupping action, and visa versa, unless, you are looking for a quick ball release, for whatever reason. When you play against harder hitters, pressure the ball more with the looser string.
     
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  43. Hominator

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    Glad that the lower tension seems to be working for you. I've never gone that low with a non-poly before, but for some reason, it works. Great arm comfort, ball pocketing, and bite. Great feel and touch, too.

    Keep us updated!
     
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  44. Hominator

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    I have a couple of those, too, and it plays very different, due to the soft flex of the Prince. The X325 is much more firm. I've actually never played with anything like the exo3 Tour - its quite a unique feeling racquet.
     
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    Anybody have an x325 that they want to sell........Gldnsthal@aol.com
     
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  46. TennisMaverick

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    Because of some renewed interest, and the fact that my X10 is fully loaded, I am stringing a stock X10 with a new Cyclone and hitting with it again tomorrow in tandem with the new XV1. I'll post my thoughts about the X10 after hitting.
     
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  47. Pneumated1

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    Okay. I can see a pink poly at least giving the psychological impression of being softer, but at least leave the pink apparel in the drawer.
     
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  48. scotus

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    Prince EXO3 Tour and Volkl Organix 10 are two of the most comfortable frames out on the market today, albeit with very different feels.

    EXO3 Tour is a very flexy frame, and it is the flex in the low 50's that gives the frame the ultimate comfort. Organix 10, on the other hand, is a stiff frame that manages to deliver super comfort via a special technology built into the handle. I find this technology significantly better than the previous Sensor Tour handle at eliminating shock. Caveat: There is far less shock at the bottom of the handle than at the top. When I hit my 2-handed backhand, I can feel a decent amount of jarring on my top left hand but almost none on the bottom right hand.

    On topspin generation, I will give the advantage to EXO3 Tour 16X18. You can generate some sick spin with that racquet. However, I always found that the trajectory of the shot was very high and loopy with the EXO3 Tour. With Organix 10, it is easier to hit a lower-trajectory topspin or flatten out the shot.

    For slice, I favor the Organix 10. The first time I demoed the stick, the slice backhand felt really special to me. I also prefer the Organix 10 for serves and volleys, although that probably depends on whether you prefer a stiffer or flexier frame.

    Both sticks offer ample sweet spots and are incredibly forgiving on mishits.

    Some other things worthy of mention: EXO3 Tour has an incredibly fragile bumper guard (especially the edges where it separates into 2 narrow strips) and low-quality paint. Organix 10 paint job seems to hold up better, but the grommets are prematurely cracking on one of them. Another racquet has the thin silver-colored strip that says "Volkl" located on top of the handle come off, so I had to glue it back on the frame.
     
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  49. TennisMaverick

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    I'm told that there was a lot of interest in that color....maybe from women? I don't know if it plays softer or stiffer than the black cyclone. I'll let you know.
     
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  50. Agent Orynge

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    TM, I know this isn't the string forum, but can you give me a good comparison between Cyclone and some other polys? I'd be very interested to hear your impressions on other strings, especially those not made or sold by Volkl.
     

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