OTL on ESPN Excellent this morning on Grunting!

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  1. gavna

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    Well, I have a new respect for Agnes Radwanska. Also it looks like somebody finally convinced Martina N that it's ok to look feminine.
     
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    So the spectators can be asked to keep absolutely quiet lest they disturb the players ... a point often doesn't start unless the crowd quietens down... or if there's a plane flying above ...
    ... but the same player can make long grunts to distract the other player.

    And the article doesn't address the fact that these players DO NOT GRUNT in practice.
     
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    theyre even grunting when their slicing the ball which is extra annoying. i think they should have a decibel rule moderate but not too strict for 2013, then gradually lower the allowed decibels each year gradually
     
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    Where was the part about the other bad habits? I watched what I thought was the whole thing, some 6 minutes long, and there was no mention of anything but grunting.
     
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    In the panel discussion that started about 14 or 15 min into the show - at one point Shriver said let's not forgot about "other" bad habits like....then they went to a clip of Nadal picking and digging into shorts and touching his face and hair...etc. Evert and especially Gilbert went off, Gilbert rocked forward almost off his chair and started clapping his hands in agreement and laughing. Maybe after the 16th or 18min?
     
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    The video ESPN is post as the "companion" piece is just the report and part of the interview with the WTA CEO.......you need to watch the complete OTL ( outside the lines) 30 min broadcast from ESPN, I assume they have a link or will reply it somewhere on thier site.
     
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    ^^^
    Thanks, I'll look for it.
     
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    Good watch- thanks for sharing!
     
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    grunting is okay, i dont mind. but excessive shrieking and moaning has to stop
     
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    while their grunts are both very bad, i fell as if Azarenka's grunt is much more tolerable than Sharapova's because it is much less of a scream/shriek. Shrieking is completely unnecessary and imo is a form of gamesmanship. While I am a fan of Serena and Venus, their grunts also drive me nuts because they suddenly appear during matches as a form of intimidation. Perhaps the reason why I am most opposed to grunting is the fact that when 2 people start grunting during a match, it makes the match personal and nothing is worse than when a match gets personal. It becomes less about the tennis.
     
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    theres the grunting because im pushing my body to its physical limits. then there is the serena grunt on a drop volley!
     
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    I love the fact some players like Sharapova don't grunt / shriek in practice but get them on court and we get sound effects. Gilbert also brought up male players like Granollers who grunts loudly AFTER he hits the ball. His performance at RG was a perfect example, the more important the point the louder and more distracting he became. AND he shrieked after contact.
     
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    yeah in practice its different youre not playing a match for thousands of dollars and ranking points. if youve ever played at a high level or even a had fought match at a low level you'll know what i mean.

    but i agree that grunting way after is annoying.
     
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    Is it really grunting that these girls are doing?

    It's interesting how it's a grunt on court, but a moan in bed. ;) Ya, I said it. :lol:
     
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    I couldn't even watch the Azarenka/Paszek match. I swear she grunts on volleys, serves, misses, everything... It's gotta be annoying to hear with the roof closed.

    Martina N. and Radwanska were spot on.
     
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    I like how they asked the 13 y/o at Bolleteri about how long it took her to stop shrieking and just exhale.

    "About 5 minutes"
     
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    It was, the echo amplifies her annoying howls.

    At one point, Azarenka hit two slices in a row, and her howls definitely came after the ball has left the stringbed.

    It was almost as if: "Oh crap I forgot to howl on such an effortless shot, better howl anyway!"
     
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