Pac-12 might as well be the Pac-2 when it comes to men's tennis.

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  1. Golden_state_of_mind

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    Can someone please change the title of this thread?
     
  2. Jakes On A Plane

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    Someone get this poster a box of tissues.
     
  3. BHSC

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    Yes, you're right for last week, and UCLA will even have a bigger lead at #1 in the computers this week thanks to the "extra" match.

    The top 4 of UCLA's best 9 wins are 1st the away win at USC, 2d UGA, and then the other 2 USC matches

    However, you also have to consider UVa's fairly weak strength of schedule since the Indoors.

    If UCLA had not played (or even lost to) USC in the Ojai and UVa had played a reasonably ranked team in the ACC tourney (not Wake Forest), much less the past few weeks, then the #1 spot would be up for grabs. Each week the rankings are evolving.

    It's been a while since UVa has played a top 10 or 15 team. Their profile is not improving in the eyes of the computer. It would have helped them to play a top 10-ish Duke team in the ACCs.

    At the same time, UCLA has won @ Pepperdine and beaten USC twice.

    Interesting to see what happens in the NCAAs. UVa has not been tested in a long time, unlike the boys out West.
    That's been the typical scenario in recent years. An undefeated UVa hasn't a fairly weak outdoor schedule, while the top Pac 12 teams get battle tested in April.
     
  4. BHSC

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    I meant:
    "An undefeated UVa HAS a fairly weak outdoor schedule, while the top Pac 12 teams get battle tested in April."
     
  5. Automator

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    Well, Virginia did go on a road trip to Texas, Texas A&M, Baylor, Oklahoma and Illinois. Usually that would have been good enough to give the Hoos some quality wins, but several of those programs had down years.
     
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    UCLA has its 2014 non-conference schedule lined up and it's stacked with top 15 teams:

    Georgia - Feb 1st
    Florida - Feb 2nd
    @ Stanford - Feb 9th
    Pepperdine - Feb 22nd
    USC - Feb 25th
    Virginia - March 6th - National Championship Rematch
    Tulsa - March 8th
    Baylor - March 13th
     
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    This is tough. Everyone of these team should be ranked top 10 in NCAA next year.
     
  8. ClarkC

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    Most of them. Probably not Stanford and Tulsa.
     
  9. Clemson_tennis

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    Arizona got whacked by New Mexico. Why is that program so poor?

    Also Washington is looking pretty poor this year as well.
     
  10. tennisballer

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    Arizona is a conundrum. Solid academics (has a reputation as a party school which can be a good or a bad thing), excellent facilities, and beautiful weather. Last I checked they had won something like 1 our of their last 20 PAC-12 matches (not exactly those numbers but something close). Not sure how to explain what's going on there.
     
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    Washington lost McMorrow and Bots and didn't have the backfill to replace them at the top. It will be a tough year for them.

    I'd say Oregon is neck and neck with Stanford for the 4th best team in the conference after UCLA, USC, and Cal.

    It seems like every conference has at least 1 team that is just plain bad and Arizona is that team in the Pac 12. You know they really don't care when you go to the school website and click on the stats button and it pulls up stats from the 2010-11 season as the most current. They are in the same company with Arkansas (SEC), Iowa (B1G), and Boston College (ACC). Okie State has been the weak link in the Big 12 for the last several years but they've started to turn it around since Jay Udwadia came in.
     
  12. tennisballer

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    My question is how does the coach there (Arizona) continue to keep his job and how was his previous assistant able to land a pretty decent gig (now at LMU). I must be missing something. Atleast they brought in a new coach at Arkansas, and as you mentioned Ok State as well so the assumption is both programs will trend upwards. The coach at Iowa has been there a very long time so they will probably continue to be mediocre until he retires. BC is a non scholarship program so they will always struggle given who they have to compete against.
     
  13. Clemson_tennis

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    Oregon used to be that team in the pac-12 but they are making some small strides and they look to be pretty decent this year. There isn't a verdict on Utah yet and how they fully transition.


    Oklahoma State was good not very long ago. They had Nedovyesov who is now ATP top 100. Kinda odd that they have had this many down years since then.
     
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    Udwadia took over for Wadley who retired after 40 seasons running the Ok State team. Wadley had lots of success over the years. After that length of time running the same team, insert your own guess as to why they where down near the end of Wadley's tenure.
     
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    In that case, it will be interesting to see how close Oregon can make their match with Duke in the ITA indoor kick-off this weekend. I don't expect an upset, but it does not sound like Redlicki will play for Duke if he was limping around in a boot or cast a few days ago.
     

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